Lifehacker Guide with GA-EP45-UD3P Motherboard

[MacTech84]

I have a total of 5 other machines on the same wired network. One XP does have nothing on it and the XP firewall is turned off. The others have Vista and Win7 with various programs working (firewall, virus scanners).

I am surprised that the iAtkos 7 OSX 10.5.8 could see all windows machines. With the info I got from here now all machines can see the hackintosh but not the other way around.

 

Does anyone have this Lifehacker build running with an ATI 5850 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814131184) card?

 

I know the guide is specifically for dual DVI Nvidia cards but I do not want to spend money on some last-generation product.

 

Thanks

 

Its funny you mention last generation, even though the GTX series of cards still beat the pants off of ATI (but that is for an entirely other thread). They can be easily added, but you might want to check a few other threads. The reason we suggest Nvidia cards is that they are easier to drop in and use right off the bat.

 

I also had no luck using 1 partition on a 1.5TB drive as an EFI boot drive - The 'Large Drive' functionality in the Chameleon rc3 r658 does not seem to work for 1.5TB drives ( there are others with this issue on the Chameleon Site )

 

The original LifeHacker guide was misleading ( and was later corrected ). The stock mac method of formatting a disk is 'Mac OS Extended (Journaled)' The 'case-sensitive' version will cause issued with Adobe programs (and others that don't expect it)

 

Have a great Thanksgiving Everyone!

 

This is rather strange, I have my drive setup as 2 paritions (1TB and 500GB), with GUID, and with MAC OS Extended (journaled) and I have never gone with Case Sensitive just because I thought it would cause too much of a pain in the a$$.

 

I just found out the Lifehacker guide was misleading and the one I am looking at still is. I just tried to load some Adobe applications and got the error saying Case Sensitive was wrong.

 

Bah! After I finally had everything running and all my data transferred haha. Is there any way to change the partition type easily without wiping it on a Hack?

 

For example: Time Machine the data onto Partition 2, format Partition 1 into "Mac OS Extended Journaled" and then restore the Time Machine via the USB Installer under Utilities -> Restore from Time Machine.

 

Or will a time machine backup format the partition back to Case-Sensitive?

 

You would have to completely reformat the drive, there are some utils out there that "claim" they can change it, I tried once and it fubared my drive. So I just don't trust it. I would recommend the re-partition of the drive.

 

 

Update:

For reference of ATI compared to Nvidia cards I provide these two links...

 

For Nvidia see here...

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/132

 

For ATI see here...

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/131

 

I provide these as the true test of a Graphics card is not how many processors it has, but the utilization of the bandwidth between the GPU and its memory. The greater the bandwidth the faster the frames can be rendered and displayed. Take a look at the bus bandwidth of the ATI chips compared to Nvidia. This is why ATI is cheaper and still does not really throw up Frames like Nvidia does. They crippled the new 5000 series of cards by having such a crappy low bit width on the memory bus.

[dctrzeke]

Help, can't get sound working....

 

I have exact hardware and been running stable for 3 weeks now but I cannot get sound. When I installed I could select the onboard adui but got no sound. I installed the indicated kext and now I have zero options for sound output. Any ideas?

[MacTech84]

Help, can't get sound working....

 

I have exact hardware and been running stable for 3 weeks now but I cannot get sound. When I installed I could select the onboard adui but got no sound. I installed the indicated kext and now I have zero options for sound output. Any ideas?

 

Do this...

 

Un-install the audio kext you installed. Then boot using the USB drive you made to install the system and run your primary drive from this. Once up and running, delete the Extras folder off of the primary drive, and re-install the V3 installer to your primary drive. Remove the USB drive, and boot off of the primary, and check your audio settings...

 

Let us know what happens

[mikegabriel]

You would have to completely reformat the drive, there are some utils out there that "claim" they can change it, I tried once and it fubared my drive. So I just don't trust it. I would recommend the re-partition of the drive.

 

Good enough answer. I am running a Time Machine backup while I am at work but when I get home I'll just copy my accounts folder over to the other HD and wipe and reload for the final time. I'll have it down pat soon.

 

Cheers

[MacTech84]

Good enough answer. I am running a Time Machine backup while I am at work but when I get home I'll just copy my accounts folder over to the other HD and wipe and reload for the final time. I'll have it down pat soon.

 

Cheers

 

I hear you on that, this is my 2nd hack-intosh that I have built. The first being an Nvidia 650i based board, and let me tell you this, it was a b@tch and a half to get that going. The whole reason I went with this is the ease of getting it up and maintaining. Plus I wanted a Vanilla based board. I know a lot when it comes to the Mac and support for those systems as well as troubleshooting, hence why I can put some of that knowledge here. As for the specific hack-intosh, there are always a lot of things that can go on since we are relatively at the start of its infancy. Don't ask me for coding, as I suck and gave it up long ago, but I am d@mn good at troubleshooting once I know what is going on, and from my own experiences.

[D-an-W]

Don't hate me folks...BUT! Has anyone had any luck with ATi GPU's and this setup (With some editing maybe?).

 

GPU choice is proving to be a real PITA and the 5770 is a good contender in the price 'v' power war raging in my head atm.

 

The GTS250 is the only other card that would probably fit in this current case but is getting old (relatively) now and costs a lot more than the 5770.

 

I welcome your input!

[j0seph]

Yea that's what we figured, we are going to pick up some stuff at fry's to test out hardware problems.

 

Weird that it booted, posted and once entered bios froze and now nothing happens. On power up it starts (lights on mb) then shuts off (no post).

 

I hope I don't have these issues when my parts arrive!

 

Also can anyone confirm you have to make the restore (usb drive) on a 10.5 and up machine? Earlier someone mentioned having problems making the restore drive using a 10.4, but I don't know if anyone else encountered this issue.

 

thanks everyone.

 

-joseph

 

Little update on a friends build:

 

Turns out it was the Thermal Grease, the little that comes with the processor/heatsink is the minimum. After replacing the MB (2 bad ram slots) and reinstalling processor and fan their just wasn't enough grease, causing it to boot once and then just boot loop w/o a post. (this was after hours of replacing parts).

 

So far its been running without an issue.

 

My Build: Went smooth as butter! Used V3 Installer, had everything built and running under 4 hours. I figured not bad for my first computer build!

 

AND since I read there was issues creating the disk image on a 10.4 machine I had to install Kalyway 10.5.2 on my machine first to create the usb boot drive.

 

Little note, the only setting I had to change to get Kalyway 10.5.2 was in BIOS change the SATA RAID/AHCI Mode to AHCI. After that I just popped in the cd and booted it up!

 

Build specs for reference: Gigabtye GA-EP45-UD3P MB, Q9550 2.83Ghz,4Gigs of G.Skill Ram, LITE-ON Sata DVD, Zalman cooling fan/heatsink, 640Gig WD Caviar Black HD, same network adpater and evga 9800gtx+.

 

Thank you everyone for the help!

 

-joseph

[thepretender]

I got a headache trying to install on evga 680i, got mostly running 10.8 running on it but not SL. Bought a GA-EP45-ud3p and tried with a 6600gt kinda worked but kp on some video tasks.

 

Now running 9800gt, overclocked e4500 @3ghz, 4 gig of mixed memory (2 kinds of Corsair), Pioneer IDE dvd burner (jmicron kext ) on board nic will try bonjour fix later. WD 400 gig hd. Running with no problems I can see, everything seems to work fantastic (haven't tried to burn anything yet Profiler says its a burner so I assume it will).

 

I copied with SupperDupper system to external USB drive booted to that and installed 10.2 update combo and it worked perfectly typing with it right now. Time to reboot and install the combo to the internal HD.

 

Cool stuff, couldn't be happier, THANKS Stellarola you made it so easy.

[MacTech84]

I got a headache trying to install on evga 680i, got mostly running 10.8 running on it but not SL. Bought a GA-EP45-ud3p and tried with a 6600gt kinda worked but kp on some video tasks.

 

Now running 9800gt, overclocked e4500 @3ghz, 4 gig of mixed memory (2 kinds of Corsair), Pioneer IDE dvd burner (jmicron kext ) on board nic will try bonjour fix later. WD 400 gig hd. Running with no problems I can see, everything seems to work fantastic (haven't tried to burn anything yet Profiler says its a burner so I assume it will).

 

I copied with SupperDupper system to external USB drive booted to that and installed 10.2 update combo and it worked perfectly typing with it right now. Time to reboot and install the combo to the internal HD.

 

Cool stuff, couldn't be happier, THANKS Stellarola you made it so easy.

 

Good to hear, and just a thing for everyone reading, if you are going to do this do not use less than an 8000 series card. You can use some 7000 series cards but for best compatibility stick with a newer card. I am very surprised to hear that someone got a 6000 series to work.

 

And Happy Thanksgiving

[thepretender]

Bonjour working fine with built in ethernet per fix in this guide, streaming Itunes to my laptop right now

http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=181903

 

6600 GT was working fine until I opened Chess, then instant KP.

Thought I'd try it even though warned against it, it was what I had in the box at the time.

[D-an-W]

Chess will probably work if you boot with -x32, with my 7600GS I get a KP if I move the mouse cursor onto the board but it works fine in 32bit mode.

 

I am close to ordering a Radeon HD 5850 but of course this will probably cause my grief with SL!

[dctrzeke]

Do this...

 

Un-install the audio kext you installed. Then boot using the USB drive you made to install the system and run your primary drive from this. Once up and running, delete the Extras folder off of the primary drive, and re-install the V3 installer to your primary drive. Remove the USB drive, and boot off of the primary, and check your audio settings...

 

Let us know what happens

 

That worked... thanks for your help!!!

[0800damo]

hey I cannot get my teg-pcitxr 10/100/1000 to work under lifehacker no hacking guide it is seen in system profiler but says no driver installed checked the bios several times no luck.

 

I have seen another couple of posts with the smae issues they were told to use V3 of the installer package which i have

 

Any advice would be greatly appreciated

[MacTech84]

hey I cannot get my teg-pcitxr 10/100/1000 to work under lifehacker no hacking guide it is seen in system profiler but says no driver installed checked the bios several times no luck.

 

I have seen another couple of posts with the smae issues they were told to use V3 of the installer package which i have

 

Any advice would be greatly appreciated

 

Have you tried to pull out and reseat the card? if that does not work, I would recommend testing it in another machine to see if possibly you have a dead card.

[0800damo]

Have you tried to pull out and reseat the card? if that does not work, I would recommend testing it in another machine to see if possibly you have a dead card.

 

Thanks

 

yeah I have done that moved it to both top and bottom slots too.

 

It works when I installed wins 7 on another hdd.

 

I think I may just buy a GA 311 and see if that works.

 

I am at my wits end every other part of the install went flawlessly

[MacTech84]

Thanks

 

yeah I have done that moved it to both top and bottom slots too.

 

It works when I installed wins 7 on another hdd.

 

I think I may just buy a GA 311 and see if that works.

 

I am at my wits end every other part of the install went flawlessly

 

Just curious here, do you have the onboard ethernet enabled or disabled? And did you install any kext files for the onboard ethernet?

[HAVEC]

I just ordered a Q9550 and 4 Gigs of G. Skill PC8500 (Newegg). I assume that I can just go ahead and plug these in and the Hackintosh will boot right up and recognize the new hardware without having to reinstall the V.3 extra package or anything like that? I got tired of having the doggiest Hack on this forum.

[MacTech84]

I just ordered a Q9550 and 4 Gigs of G. Skill PC8500 (Newegg). I assume that I can just go ahead and plug these in and the Hackintosh will boot right up and recognize the new hardware without having to reinstall the V.3 extra package or anything like that? I got tired of having the doggiest Hack on this forum.

 

Technically speaking it will work right away, and everything will be recognized. I say technically since you have had problems before, hopefully this goes well for you without any problems. I did a swap on the CPU and it recognized it.

[CoHPhasor]

I have to ask a serious question.

 

To those trying to install this build directly on an HD over 1TB with a single partition;

What is your thought process?

It's an honest question I didn't think needed asking, but handfuls of you have shown up.

 

Not only have we stated time and time again that the large disk support doesn't go that high yet,

but what need do you have for an installation partition to be over a TB?

 

If you house large amounts of video/picture/sound files it is detrimental to keep them on the OS partition

anyway. Realize that you may need to wipe the OS part at some point, at which time a "Data" part would be untouched.

 

STOP using single partitions on 1.5+TB drives for the love of all that is holy.

 

And while we're at it, this is NOT a Video card thread.

Successful installs are noted with their HW. If you want to use what someone else has, I understand.

But the community at large is where you ask those specific questions.

50% of the posts in a thread dedicated to a specific build should not be; "I want to use video card x, does it work? Can you make it work for me?"

 

I understand the enthusiasm, but the build was specific. Follow it if you wish, but if not then use the community in general for help.

[MacTech84]

I have to ask a serious question.

 

To those trying to install this build directly on an HD over 1TB with a single partition;

What is your thought process?

It's an honest question I didn't think needed asking, but handfuls of you have shown up.

 

Not only have we stated time and time again that the large disk support doesn't go that high yet,

but what need do you have for an installation partition to be over a TB?

 

If you house large amounts of video/picture/sound files it is detrimental to keep them on the OS partition

anyway. Realize that you may need to wipe the OS part at some point, at which time a "Data" part would be untouched.

 

STOP using single partitions on 1.5+TB drives for the love of all that is holy.

 

And while we're at it, this is NOT a Video card thread.

Successful installs are noted with their HW. If you want to use what someone else has, I understand.

But the community at large is where you ask those specific questions.

50% of the posts in a thread dedicated to a specific build should not be; "I want to use video card x, does it work? Can you make it work for me?"

 

I understand the enthusiasm, but the build was specific. Follow it if you wish, but if not then use the community in general for help.

 

The only way to use an HD greater than 1TB is by partitioning it into 2. The Bootloader we have to use is supposed to have large disk support but it does not. Not everyone is just downloading everything to their primary partition but some like me, might be installing both CS4 Master Collection and Final Cut Studio 3 which take a major portion of the drive up. Once of the upshots to using a large drive is that with all of this installed there is still room left, and the drive will not suffer from filling it all the way up. The drive performance of a 500GB drive fully loaded, vs a 1.5TB drive that is formatted into 2, and only half full on the primary, will still have lots of performance. Plus the drives over 1TB have 32MB of cache making them a bit faster too.

 

And if I may, I think someone needs to remove the rod from their butt. Show me one thread on this entire site that has stuck completely to what the heading lists. Threads evolve and more is learned if you don't like it, don't read it. I joined this thread late but I love it and will help those that ask and I hope I have not imposed on others, even if its slightly out of the "STRICT" build. Newbies that come in and need help, don't need to be scolded.

[Firestorm88]

I have to ask a serious question.

 

To those trying to install this build directly on an HD over 1TB with a single partition;

What is your thought process?

It's an honest question I didn't think needed asking, but handfuls of you have shown up.

 

Not only have we stated time and time again that the large disk support doesn't go that high yet,

but what need do you have for an installation partition to be over a TB?

 

If you house large amounts of video/picture/sound files it is detrimental to keep them on the OS partition

anyway. Realize that you may need to wipe the OS part at some point, at which time a "Data" part would be untouched.

 

STOP using single partitions on 1.5+TB drives for the love of all that is holy.

 

And while we're at it, this is NOT a Video card thread.

Successful installs are noted with their HW. If you want to use what someone else has, I understand.

But the community at large is where you ask those specific questions.

50% of the posts in a thread dedicated to a specific build should not be; "I want to use video card x, does it work? Can you make it work for me?"

 

I understand the enthusiasm, but the build was specific. Follow it if you wish, but if not then use the community in general for help.

It should be when the specific build uses a CPU and Video Card that is not cost effective. It's much smarter go go with a 9550 + GTX 260 or GTX 275 than a Q9650 + 9800 GTX. Like it or not, this is now the official UD3P thread. It's the motherboard that discussions on this forum centre around.

[CoHPhasor]

SBMac, Firestorm88,

 

Congratulations, you have opinions. However well-founded, they are taking offense instead of observation of the point.

 

SBMac,

If you have difficulties getting FCS3 and Adobe suites onto a 500 GB drive then God help you.

(I run Maya 2010, AMC, FCS3, AND have a Win7 partition on my 500GB HD with plenty of room to spare)

My point was clear and concise. IF you want to use a 1TB+ drive then DO NOT USE ONLY ONE PARTITION.

I never said you can't have a 1.5TB drive, you could have a 10TB drive as long as your partitions aren't bigger than 1TB. Clear enough?

Good, because it gets tiring watching this thread bloat out of proportion for the same thing.

We should no longer have to argue the point to someone that they are FAILING at the build because they won't make 2 partitions.

 

That brings me to the video cards. People incessantly bothering about OSX's support of

video cards is making it very hard for anyone to decide to read 35 pages of posts.

Which, believe it or not, is causing problem number one.

 

Firestorm88,

 

The use of alternate CPUs was ALWAYS condoned. Early in this thread it was confirmed, there

is no need to ask.

Video cards? As above, the problem is ALWAYS, and WAS always a problem of what OSX SL could support.

Once the installer caught up it became "Can OSX SL run it."

 

You both need to realize that this thread exists to help people who are new to the build who need help with the build.

This is not a general "How do I make 'a' Hackintosh?" thread. That duty is to the OSx86 community at large.

 

I'm not trying to be some regulatory ass-hat. I'm not the "LH build nazi".

Please understand that I'm just trying to maintain a usable experience

for people who are here to perform this build.

 

So before we start some retarted flame war, look over what's been said, think about it.

The moment Stella wants to change this thread from;

"Lifehacker Guide with GA-EP45-UD3P Motherboard, For your experience with this EXACT hardware configuration and method"

to

"UD3P support-fest"

 

I'll jump right on-board. Until then....

[MacTech84]

Well everyone, I guess every thread has to have one douche...

 

Few points to clear up here...

 

The Partitioning of larger than 1TB drives only applies to your primary drive for the bootloader to work properly. I have 3 - 1.5 TB drives and only one is partitioned in 2 as my primary for this reason, otherwise they work perfectly fine in 1 partition. And I think this will sum it up best... The very idea of a Hack-Intosh is, can it be done, and that is why we are here. To see if it can be done and to support others that have problems or questions.

 

Video Cards...

Any Geforce 8/9/GT200 series cards will work with the build, except GT210/220 cards, and the new CO-OP based boards. For ATI all I can really say is its a {censored} shoot, so just stick with what has been suggested for Nvidia.

 

Processors...

Any Core 2 Duo or Core 2 Quad that the board supports will work.

 

As for there being 35 pages in this thread, I have read them all now, and learned a lot which is again, the point of our community. One thing I do recommend is take the time to learn about what makes our setups work the way they do, such as the bootloader.

 

If anyone needs help, please feel free to ask, and I will help the best that I can, as well as I am sure, many others that have supported to this thread.

 

CoHPhasor have fun in your endeavors, if you don't like this forum, then I am sure there are many others for you to choose from to read. You should not bring soo much negativity when people ask a question about something not concerning the exact Lifehacker build. Enjoy life...

[CoHPhasor]

SBMac, I'm glad to have heard your long-winded personal philosophies.

I don't know that you get what I've been trying to say.

 

If you take a good look at your post then you would know what I'm trying to say.

The short, pertinent details you posted right there? That's the point. The info isn't scattered

everywhere, it's readily available. If this post were to NOT be buried in this thread for someone to hope to find

it would be useful.

A motivated person would find it quickly and correct themselves without even needing to ask.

 

I'm finding your tone to be annoying.

I've been here the whole time doing work like anybody else. Don't like it?

Start the UD3P anything goes thread of your dreams.

[MacTech84]

SBMac, I'm glad to have heard your long-winded personal philosophies.

I don't know that you get what I've been trying to say.

 

If you take a good look at your post then you would know what I'm trying to say.

The short, pertinent details you posted right there? That's the point. The info isn't scattered

everywhere, it's readily available. If this post were to NOT be buried in this thread for someone to hope to find

it would be useful.

A motivated person would find it quickly and correct themselves without even needing to ask.

 

I'm finding your tone to be annoying.

I've been here the whole time doing work like anybody else. Don't like it?

Start the UD3P anything goes thread of your dreams.

 

If you are annoyed oh well, but just drop it, and let those that need help post here. If you want to say something then send me a message and keep it off here. Otherwise, go be a self-indulgent wiener else where, DONE!