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Just Wanted The Issue To be taken Seriously,

and seriously i'm beginning to think you're on the Boards payroll :thumbsdown_anim:

Hey, I know what you meant and I respect your opinion but that doesn't mean that I have to share it now, does it? If you want to be taken seriously, then post in the right sections, don't double post and offer some concrete solutions instead of just harsh criticism.

 

Cheers,

 

hecker

whatever you thought you were going to achieve with this well you didn't. I mean I got my help from here, the best damn help built my first custom PC, a hack at that. LOL its a {censored} forum you {censored} moron. What do you {censored} expect. hahahahahaha do you want a bunch of flashing lights with some cool flash buttons and a little fairy that alerts you that the post you are writing has already been discussed and to check there first. Seriously dude know one gives about this topic. It was pointless, and if this is the site you want improvement in out off all the sites on the net that you had to make this idiotic post maybe you have a {censored} issue in the mac world want some help and no one is helping you because you're a {censored} and you think bitching will solve your problem. The only thing thats wrong with this site is 2 things. The search which you can use google for and the other think is people who makes posts like this to find their argument is worthless. Thanks, but no thanks. I had to reply to this {censored}, I'm not on the payroll, would payroll say go {censored} off hahahahahahahahaha {censored} {censored} {censored} seriously go {censored} back at me I'm waiting for it

 

aXe

whatever you thought you were going to achieve with this well you didn't. I mean I got my help from here, the best damn help built my first custom PC, a hack at that. LOL its a {censored} forum you {censored} moron. What do you {censored} expect. hahahahahaha do you want a bunch of flashing lights with some cool flash buttons and a little fairy that alerts you that the post you are writing has already been discussed and to check there first. Seriously dude know one gives about this topic. It was pointless, and if this is the site you want improvement in out off all the sites on the net that you had to make this idiotic post maybe you have a {censored} issue in the mac world want some help and no one is helping you because you're a {censored} and you think bitching will solve your problem. The only thing thats wrong with this site is 2 things. The search which you can use google for and the other think is people who makes posts like this to find their argument is worthless. Thanks, but no thanks. I had to reply to this {censored}, I'm not on the payroll, would payroll say go {censored} off hahahahahahahahaha {censored} {censored} {censored} seriously go {censored} back at me I'm waiting for it

 

aXe

Whoa, settle down bro. Your heart is in the right place but you're giving us all a bad rep here. Offending someone like that achieves nothing.

i know hahahahahaha

 

but hey I'm here so you guys dont have to do this. im my own person he has no right to hate youfor what I say, let him hate me, but I get what youre saying

 

he'll go cryin and bitching at you guys so I apologize to you not him hahahahahahaha

 

aXe

i know hahahahahaha

 

but hey I'm here so you guys dont have to do this. im my own person he has no right to hate youfor what I say, let him hate me, but I get what youre saying

 

he'll go cryin and bitching at you guys so I apologize to you not him hahahahahahaha

 

aXe

Hey, that's cool projekt k. But I personally do not wish anyone to hate you. K? :thumbsdown_anim:
good deal my friend, it seems we've invaded his negativity and brought upon this shine of the insanely mac community. Sending his demons right back to hell, amen hahahahahahahahaha

 

do you use twitter hecker?

Hehe, well we all have our bad days. Do you know that saying: "sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you"?

I prefer to just leave those things alone and steal honey from some bees instead :thumbsdown_anim:

 

And no, I'm not using twitter yet.

 

Hang10,

 

hecker

Basically The Layout and Look of This Forum Sucks, Not Just this one but any other forum i've signed up to. looks, feel and works the same.

 

it is as if it is a generic Template everybody is just cutting and pasting and saying "oh yeah i've stared an online Forum Website"

 

Now i know For most of us Hacintosh users this is the starting point in our journey to freedom, but once we adhere to the mac Culture of think Differently. one should think you should have found a way to rethink the way forum websites are created.

for one is not user-friendly ( Most of the noobs who post silly questions instead of looking up the topic are just alienated by the way this website was created)

 

One thing i've noticed since converting to the Mac, is there are some really smart Programmers out there. that even Microsoft Doesn't Know of.

 

i Know the Insanely Great Community has some really brilliant DVD makers and Programmers to Boast of, But i cant say that of those who designed and Implemented this site.

Yes call it what you want "I said It"

Biting The hand That Feeds Me

 

i think In the End Our Goal In Spending so much Time to Making Sure We Use The Mac, One should think U would start using the left side of your brain and Construct this forum from the ground Up. with all the signatures of osx out there. that even a 12 year old mac programmers would incorporate in their Mac apps and web designing.

 

Because This Website Forum Definitely Reeks of C++ and maybe Publisher

 

There're Tons of way To re-think the way to write his website to look work and feel more like a creative genius Website.

PHP, Ajax, Rub on Rails you just Name it.

 

Steve Jobs and The rest of apple would even be Disappointed by your lack of creativity in trynna live of their Culture

 

So i think you have a few choices

try to re-think the way Forums are created and designed and Show the rest of the Internet Forum Community How Osx is Done.

or just Fall in-line and go and buy out the next forum layout a Publisher Website designer Does and do a bad job in even using it

 

 

So for all those who pass thru

List your experience and annoyance using This Website (based on Web Site Design and Interface)

 

 

I'll Go first

1. i'll like to see more CSS, Ajax, PHP and Other Web Applications Infused In the Forum Design, and More Server based programming.

2. Like to see Less Square "{censored}" Looking Boxes of Replies and Topics and Would Like To See a More Fluid Look Of Things Maybe a Twitter View or Somffin

3. More Icons as navigation and less words Like "Top" "Quote" "reply" Could all Be Replaced With icons Instead and so much more on this site.

4. Put people Signatures In Their card Section of their Post instead of Confusing it with the rest of the more important content of the post "this Has To Have a More Refine Listed out layout Then"

5. I'll Posting a topic or Reply doesnt exactly look welcoming either

6. i'll like to see more Social networking features incorporated, and many USEFUL Web app for that Matter and I stress on Useful.

7. How come i never feel that all my PM went thru and i dont have a log for all me sent messages

8. you're trailing behind when it comes to OSX news and rumors. I find myself coming here less and less so I'm echoing a Post I saw "Front Page Not Updating" http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=161908

9. Now where is that "Post topic Button"

10. These Site Admins are Arrogant Big Brothers Just Watching Over Us, so Make Sure To Mark as Interesting To get Their Attention

 

and Oh giving us the options of different colors and themes just isn't going to cut it

you did take a step with that, but you could have gone much far

 

Why not just go start your own, douchebag?

whatever you thought you were going to achieve with this well you didn't. I mean I got my help from here, the best damn help built my first custom PC, a hack at that. LOL its a {censored} forum you {censored} moron. What do you {censored} expect. hahahahahaha do you want a bunch of flashing lights with some cool flash buttons and a little fairy that alerts you that the post you are writing has already been discussed and to check there first. Seriously dude know one gives about this topic. It was pointless, and if this is the site you want improvement in out off all the sites on the net that you had to make this idiotic post maybe you have a {censored} issue in the mac world want some help and no one is helping you because you're a {censored} and you think bitching will solve your problem. The only thing thats wrong with this site is 2 things. The search which you can use google for and the other think is people who makes posts like this to find their argument is worthless. Thanks, but no thanks. I had to reply to this {censored}, I'm not on the payroll, would payroll say go {censored} off hahahahahahahahaha {censored} {censored} {censored} seriously go {censored} back at me I'm waiting for it

 

aXe

 

I'm No Noob,

No i'm ok i got all the help i need, and i'm gonna google it if i need some more

All Of A sudden I'm The Bad Guy B) , lol. Anyway I'm not hear to do that Whole "Say Hello To The bad Guy" Speech because clearly like you said I wont achieve whatever i came to do. thats what i want to focus more, sorry if it came out the wrong way. Thats Because everybody is focusing on my word play and not exactly at what i'm saying.

But The Point Is The creating of a Forum based Website could be so much easier to Use, for the end user.

after all making information easier to convey isn't that the whole point.

I Agree about the search engine part put i think they are are fully aware of that, but people would Find more Useful

 

if they come to see Post in threads in a more fluid manner.

only content drive post not Accompanied by Users Individual Signatures.

 

and there Shouldn't be a whole Encompassing Box reserved for one lined posts, because their mini-card requires it

 

And What about Replacing the "Quote", "Top", "Reply" Buttons with universally understood icons at the right Side of the post rather than interrupting the Fluid Flow i'm talking of.

 

What makes This Forum different from others is, here There's a real Community of people helping each other. around one focal point. Thus Where The OSX Community Means much more another Forum.

People Know Each others names, Like Herker Here, JaSSer and Others.

We laugh at Noobs for posting Silly Questions and point them in the right direction.

we'll Shoot down any

In the End What I'm saying its lacking the basic Social Networking features that would otherwise make getting things done faster. especially an in house simple Chat Feature. you'll find people would be able to help others better that way than post after post. and only leave post for helpful guiding post.

because i Know For a Fact Noobs don't get any attention in the various IRC Chat Rooms

 

 

 

Why not just go start your own, douchebag?

 

lol. The reality is that A newer and improved Forum based website is just a few months or even years away

and it will eventually replace this one.

its just the ability to see it before it happens that Separates the mere users from those who really think differently and change things

 

Question is would the site Administrators wait for this to be designed by someone who clearly knows little about the user experience when it comes to Forums.

only to go buy the template and Use it like every one else, mobile phone forums etc you name it

 

or would they want to Be that change that People Would Talk of and hope to eventually see

by Re-thinking the way Forum based websites are developed

 

They could all still just wait for Someone else to design it and probably use it to compete with them. which i'm not saying should happen.

 

anyway I'm not here to Pick a Bone with the Admins or the members of this forum, basically taking the first steps in letting them know There's a problem that could need fixing.

so Unless you have a Genius suggestion as to how this can be done........

Mods and even Administrators of websites like this aren't web designers, never mind that they are not the kind of database architects/editors it would take to create a whole new forum engine from scratch as you're suggesting.

 

People with that kind of knowledge and ability are using it in commercial enterprises like the company that makes the forum software the site currently uses, not mods at obscure OS hacker/thief freebie websites.

Ladies and gentlemen, the definition of EPIC PHAEYL!

 

Seriously dude, if you don't like the site, don't join it, and don't spam it. Think you can do a better job? Build your own. This is all what we need as of right now. It just a place to discuss osx86 thats all. As long as we can communicate, we don't need the other intricate features.

Ok you guys. You have all made your point. Now hug and shake hands (no kissing though because that would be {censored}. Unless you're into that stuff).

Now here's a real epic phaylure:

http://www.break.com/index/chick-faceplant...-bike-race.html

 

Cheers,

 

hecker

Mods and even Administrators of websites like this aren't web designers, never mind that they are not the kind of database architects/editors it would take to create a whole new forum engine from scratch as you're suggesting.

 

People with that kind of knowledge and ability are using it in commercial enterprises like the company that makes the forum software the site currently uses, not mods at obscure OS hacker/thief freebie websites.

 

Surprisingly Only Those With Huge Signatures Tend To want to get at me.

after it took me a while to scroll thru all those Signatures to the Insulting parts

In the end you Guys had noffin New to say.

 

So Because This Is raising a lot of the needed attention but for the wrong reason and in the wrong Direction. I'm Taking to posting only in the one thats in its appropriate section. thats because there's no delete thread button anywhere.

 

Seeing as it is you guys were just Waiting for someone to Have a kinda exchange of words with. and might have been bored with the community till i came by.

I'm Used To Helpful and Useful Criticisms. But so far none of you guys have made a Helpful addition to the whole topic besides tell me to go create my own and that you like it the way it is. and I'm clueless as to what I'm even suggesting.

 

I'm Gonna Leave you With This, I'm sure you'll be able to relate

 

and I hope it Gets nore plays than The other video in the other thread.lol

 

"Early In Life I Had Learnt That If You Want Something You Better Make Some Noise"--Malcom X

 

Which Is Coincedentally Going To be The Header For My Next POST

 

I Hope I Could Have Quoted The Text Preceding that line, It adds the needed Effect.

anyway See you Guys In The original Thread or Latter POST's.

Wont Even Bother With You Guys Here, Not Now!!!

 

And Don't think i didn't intentionally Post That Link, For that Effect you're gonna Give me.

Wow, OP. You may start complaining whenever you master typing in proper English, as this is a mostly English-speaking board.

 

Please Do Not Type Like This, forget to capitalize "I" like i just did, And Especially Never Switch Between Doing This, Which Is Rather Annoying By Itself, and doing this, as it compounds your failure. Also, never use the phrases "somfinn", "trynna", or "and many USEFUL Web app for that Matter and I stress on Useful." Analysis: Yes, we realize that you are stressing useful because you put it in capitals. There is no need to state that you are stressing that which has been stressed. Try underlining, italicizing, anything but capitalizing your words. Also, most people do not type the way they speak; it is not proper etiquette. Attempting to convey inflections is best reserved for important information, such as "DO NOT attempt to put you CPU into the socket with a hammer, EVER." Note that only the DO NOT and EVER parts are stressed; that is the only part where it is necessary.

 

I am not saying you are not allowed to post here, just not {censored} to people who are A ) Managing an entire website for hundreds of thousands of users to date, hosting information which is B ) illegal to distribute, and C ) doing it literally out of the kindness of their hearts.

 

Furthermore, I am definitely not saying that InsanelyMac is without any shortcomings, but what internet forum isn't? All in all, the design and layout is rather good, but yes, a language change may do some good. However, keep in mind that this would be a rather massive operation, and the downtime would more than likely suck worse than having to deal with the occasional quirk.

 

I dare you to try to find a grammatical or spelling error in this entire post. There are none; that is how it should be.

 

Good job sucking hard core.

Wow, OP. You may start complaining whenever you master typing in proper English, as this is a mostly English-speaking board.

 

Please Do Not Type Like This, forget to capitalize "I" like i just did, And Especially Never Switch Between Doing This, Which Is Rather Annoying By Itself, and doing this, as it compounds your failure. Also, never use the phrases "somfinn", "trynna", or "and many USEFUL Web app for that Matter and I stress on Useful." Analysis: Yes, we realize that you are stressing useful because you put it in capitals. There is no need to state that you are stressing that which has been stressed. Try underlining, italicizing, anything but capitalizing your words. Also, most people do not type the way they speak; it is not proper etiquette. Attempting to convey inflections is best reserved for important information, such as "DO NOT attempt to put you CPU into the socket with a hammer, EVER." Note that only the DO NOT and EVER parts are stressed; that is the only part where it is necessary.

 

I am not saying you are not allowed to post here, just not {censored} to people who are A ) Managing an entire website for hundreds of thousands of users to date, hosting information which is B ) illegal to distribute, and C ) doing it literally out of the kindness of their hearts.

 

Furthermore, I am definitely not saying that InsanelyMac is without any shortcomings, but what internet forum isn't? All in all, the design and layout is rather good, but yes, a language change may do some good. However, keep in mind that this would be a rather massive operation, and the downtime would more than likely suck worse than having to deal with the occasional quirk.

 

I dare you to try to find a grammatical or spelling error in this entire post. There are none; that is how it should be.

 

Good job sucking hard core.

 

Just So You know I think a whole lot faster than i write or in this case type. it doesn't take a Genius to realize they are just errors from slowing down your thoughts gathering them to actually saying them. Sometimes its like i've already typed the dam thing when i haven't. don't worry if you were the smart type you'd know that.

Funny how you could look past all the relevant information to Scrutinize where I'm from and my spell check.

you're just an Idiot who knows how to use Leopards inbuilt spell feature well, Spare us your Egoistic {censored} "oh See That Was Spelt Correctly"

 

But Then again i never said I didn't like this forum and i was some outsider, coming to Point out your Flaws.

OSX86 has been one of the greatest Help I've had ever, No Doubt

Don't Take it personally but You Guys Are Making Idiots Of Yourselves With Every Post

 

and Me Doing This Is Just My personal Typing style, wasn't following any norm or convention. like i needed to!

Go {censored} Yourself and Write me a Poem if you feel so strongly about the english language and its constructs

 

P.S The Bad GuY :wacko:

 

plus your name is CheapMac, thats like glorifying that fact that you're cheap on a forum that helps you as you put it

 

"just not {censored} to people who are A ) Managing an entire website for hundreds of thousands of users to date, hosting information which is B ) illegal to distribute, and C ) doing it literally out of the kindness of their hearts".

 

dude literally from the bottom of their hearts its people like you they hope they are not helping.

 

Ok you guys. You have all made your point. Now hug and shake hands (no kissing though because that would be {censored}. Unless you're into that stuff).

Now here's a real epic phaylure:

http://www.break.com/index/chick-faceplant...-bike-race.html

 

Cheers,

 

hecker

 

Plus I think we also need cascading Replies so that, if you find a reply not so helpful or relevant it could just be folded up and leave more room for the rest of the thread.

Surprisingly Only Those With Huge Signatures Tend To want to get at me.

after it took me a while to scroll thru all those Signatures to the Insulting parts

In the end you Guys had noffin New to say.

 

So Because This Is raising a lot of the needed attention but for the wrong reason and in the wrong Direction. I'm Taking to posting only in the one thats in its appropriate section. thats because there's no delete thread button anywhere.

 

Seeing as it is you guys were just Waiting for someone to Have a kinda exchange of words with. and might have been bored with the community till i came by.

I'm Used To Helpful and Useful Criticisms. But so far none of you guys have made a Helpful addition to the whole topic besides tell me to go create my own and that you like it the way it is. and I'm clueless as to what I'm even suggesting.

 

I'm Gonna Leave you With This, I'm sure you'll be able to relate

 

and I hope it Gets nore plays than The other video in the other thread.lol

 

"Early In Life I Had Learnt That If You Want Something You Better Make Some Noise"--Malcom X

 

Which Is Coincedentally Going To be The Header For My Next POST

 

I Hope I Could Have Quoted The Text Preceding that line, It adds the needed Effect.

anyway See you Guys In The original Thread or Latter POST's.

Wont Even Bother With You Guys Here, Not Now!!!

 

And Don't think i didn't intentionally Post That Link, For that Effect you're gonna Give me.

 

You're a {censored} moron, and you write like a 12 year old boy playing around in the AOL {censored} chat room in 1998.

I'm going to first address the original topic. This site is most definitely NOT written in C++/Publisher. The core forum functionality is a commercial product called Invision Power Board and is widely accepted to be one of the best forum solutions out there. I suggest that if you have gripes with them about their "C++/Publisher" esque website design you contact them.

 

Your first point "i'll like to see more CSS, Ajax, PHP and Other Web Applications Infused In the Forum Design, and More Server based programming" actually makes no sense at all. The website itself is written in PHP (that's what the .php means at the end of index in the url). The styling is all done in CSS and is specific enough to include mozilla-specific styles.

 

Adding additional features to the forums presents a few problems. The web masters of InsanelyMac did not produce the software in this forum. While it would certainly be possible to modify the codebase to support such features virtually all of the people on this forum have real lives and real jobs which prevent such a massive time commitment. Effort spent in these areas is in essence "icing on the cake" since it does very little to improve core functionality or increase usability. AJAX functionality is already included in the forum such as notifications about receiving PMs (btw the "Sent Items" folder is a log of your sent PMs...).

 

While there are certainly areas of improvement this forum could undertake there are elements of interface design that you break only if you have a good reason. The forum is laid out as such because that is the way all forums are laid out. A different design would have to be a significant improvement over previous designs otherwise you will get frustration and confusion from people who cannot find UI elements. A pristine example of this is the new version of Office. The new "Ribbon" gave Microsoft a large backlash from users who did not know where common UI elements had gone. In Microsoft's case, however, the Ribbon turned out to be a positive change that improved their overall UI (some people disagree on this, however. That is NOT the core of this argument.). This does not mean this situation will always apply and probably won't apply in the case of InsanelyMac.

 

I noticed that all of your points (those that I read; your typing is atrocious) were all negative. To what end does that serve? You offered no solutions just "I would like to see...". I feel that is a large problem on this forum. There are a minority of people with the programming talent/documentation talent/pick-a-talent to get things done here and a large majority of people who do nothing but sit back and complain about how much they would "like" to see or how little "progress" has been made. I am including you in this category. You offered no solutions to your complaints. You made no attempt to even understand the technologies you quoted in your first point (don't try and argue this one, simply listing CSS/PHP was enough to show you have no idea what you are talking about).

 

If you are going to be making posts such as these I HIGHLY suggest typing in a format that is readable to most people. While your excuse is you "think faster than you type" I am calling baloney. The sheer number of capital letters is testament to this (since they are, by nature, slower to type since they have an additional key you must press). In the following "sentence" "How come i never feel that all my PM went thru and i dont have a log for all me sent messages " you write the word "me" instead of "my". That is not "thinking too fast". That is poor English/typing skills. Please attempt proper grammar/sentence structure/capitalization/diction when you create a post. If that requires you to "slow down" then by all means do it so that the rest of us mortal beings can and are willing to read and follow. Remember that if native English speakers (such as myself) find issues with your posts non-native speakers may not give it the time of day. In an international forum such as this posting in clear, correct English is the best way of getting your voice heard by the most people.

I'm going to first address the original topic. This site is most definitely NOT written in C++/Publisher. The core forum functionality is a commercial product called Invision Power Board and is widely accepted to be one of the best forum solutions out there. I suggest that if you have gripes with them about their "C++/Publisher" esque website design you contact them.

 

Your first point "i'll like to see more CSS, Ajax, PHP and Other Web Applications Infused In the Forum Design, and More Server based programming" actually makes no sense at all. The website itself is written in PHP (that's what the .php means at the end of index in the url). The styling is all done in CSS and is specific enough to include mozilla-specific styles.

 

Adding additional features to the forums presents a few problems. The web masters of InsanelyMac did not produce the software in this forum. While it would certainly be possible to modify the codebase to support such features virtually all of the people on this forum have real lives and real jobs which prevent such a massive time commitment. Effort spent in these areas is in essence "icing on the cake" since it does very little to improve core functionality or increase usability. AJAX functionality is already included in the forum such as notifications about receiving PMs (btw the "Sent Items" folder is a log of your sent PMs...).

 

While there are certainly areas of improvement this forum could undertake there are elements of interface design that you break only if you have a good reason. The forum is laid out as such because that is the way all forums are laid out. A different design would have to be a significant improvement over previous designs otherwise you will get frustration and confusion from people who cannot find UI elements. A pristine example of this is the new version of Office. The new "Ribbon" gave Microsoft a large backlash from users who did not know where common UI elements had gone. In Microsoft's case, however, the Ribbon turned out to be a positive change that improved their overall UI (some people disagree on this, however. That is NOT the core of this argument.). This does not mean this situation will always apply and probably won't apply in the case of InsanelyMac.

 

I noticed that all of your points (those that I read; your typing is atrocious) were all negative. To what end does that serve? You offered no solutions just "I would like to see...". I feel that is a large problem on this forum. There are a minority of people with the programming talent/documentation talent/pick-a-talent to get things done here and a large majority of people who do nothing but sit back and complain about how much they would "like" to see or how little "progress" has been made. I am including you in this category. You offered no solutions to your complaints. You made no attempt to even understand the technologies you quoted in your first point (don't try and argue this one, simply listing CSS/PHP was enough to show you have no idea what you are talking about).

 

If you are going to be making posts such as these I HIGHLY suggest typing in a format that is readable to most people. While your excuse is you "think faster than you type" I am calling baloney. The sheer number of capital letters is testament to this (since they are, by nature, slower to type since they have an additional key you must press). In the following "sentence" "How come i never feel that all my PM went thru and i dont have a log for all me sent messages " you write the word "me" instead of "my". That is not "thinking too fast". That is poor English/typing skills. Please attempt proper grammar/sentence structure/capitalization/diction when you create a post. If that requires you to "slow down" then by all means do it so that the rest of us mortal beings can and are willing to read and follow. Remember that if native English speakers (such as myself) find issues with your posts non-native speakers may not give it the time of day. In an international forum such as this posting in clear, correct English is the best way of getting your voice heard by the most people.

 

+1.

 

btw, we only need a well-supported, and friendly environment rather than being a center using all the tech.

and i think the admin of the site is busy enough with the maintenance of this site. :unsure:

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