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I've started working on a new OSX86 distro: HBS Mac OS X 10.4.10. I know it's only using Tiger, but currently that's all I have and used. It's going to be based on Kalyways 10.4.10, but I'll be modifying it alot to try and make it ideal for laptops (Especially the awkward Dell ones :) ).

 

Hopefully it'll get used, but probably not :D . If anyone out there wants to get involved the PM me.

 

Cheers,

 

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Hi Hill Beast...

 

Still using Tiger system on my Desktop & Laptop. Created a fresh image of it from intel 10.4.10, modified the osinstall.mpkg to add the combo 10.4.11.

 

The dvd is booted by chameleon, support SSE2. Just like in Leopard :P

 

I made the Distro very clean as possible. Almost vanilla. (Thanks to Enablers)

 

Tell me what you need & maybe i have links or prepared stuffs for you

Korrupted
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best of luck with this, maybe go for a boot-132 based 10.4.11 and get everything state-of-the-art.

also, please fix your .sig, it's way too long.

 

Slightly offtopic and perhaps a dumb question, Hagar, but does B132 work with Tiger? ;)

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Slightly offtopic and perhaps a dumb question, Hagar, but does B132 work with Tiger? :P

 

Nope, it doesn't. I tested my self.

 

On the other hand, I suggest Hill Beast not to take kalyways as basis, but a retail DVD. Kalyway is too much bloated, and it has too many modifications. Just take the retail dvd, add dsmos.kext, remove AppleCPUPowerManagement.kext, and install chamaleon and your system will boot. From that you can add what you want to the installer.

Hill Beast
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On the other hand, I suggest Hill Beast not to take kalyways as basis, but a retail DVD. Kalyway is too much bloated, and it has too many modifications. Just take the retail dvd, add dsmos.kext, remove AppleCPUPowerManagement.kext, and install chamaleon and your system will boot. From that you can add what you want to the installer.

 

I've taken the Kalyways disc and cut out the {censored}, and made alot more optional. I'm also taking out that stupid 'kool themes', and I'm sorting out the installer. What I'm aiming at is an easy install on most computers without having to do so much searching in the install on how to do stuff.

 

My other aim is to get it going on my AMD desktop which comes up with all sorts of errors.

 

One thing I would like help with is if anyone out there knows how to incorporate Finder and the Dock into the install disc then I'd be wrapped. I hate it with the install disc how if you want to do restoring and Disk Utility isn't working right, how you have to use Terminal to fix stuff up. I want to be able to have access to Finder and the Dock to make life easier.

Hill Beast
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One thing I would like help with is if anyone out there knows how to incorporate Finder and the Dock into the install disc then I'd be wrapped.

 

I managed to get Finder to work. I copied it from my working OS X install (/System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app) along with all the Frameworks and PrivateFrameworks and I also had to grab a few services here and there and it works. The Desktop shows up and I can go into the disc but half the folders are set to hidden (Only /Library shows up). Unfortunately I have to manually open it through Terminal. If someone knows how to get Finder to load automatically and stop Installer running then please tell me!

 

I still can't get the Dock to go. I though that if Finder is going, surely the Dock is going, but it comes up in Terminal saying 'Bus Error :P '. If anyone has any ideas then that would be great.

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It is in legacy mode. It's booting from a hard drive until I finish the disc.

 

 

you should use another disc as based ! this one have been completly repack !!

 

and please respect my work !!!

 

this distrib was my first try ! and respect that or madvillain will kill you!!!

 

ha ha

 

I've taken the Kalyways disc and cut out the {censored}, and made alot more optional. I'm also taking out that stupid 'kool themes', and I'm sorting out the installer. What I'm aiming at is an easy install on most computers without having to do so much searching in the install on how to do stuff.

 

My other aim is to get it going on my AMD desktop which comes up with all sorts of errors.

 

One thing I would like help with is if anyone out there knows how to incorporate Finder and the Dock into the install disc then I'd be wrapped. I hate it with the install disc how if you want to do restoring and Disk Utility isn't working right, how you have to use Terminal to fix stuff up. I want to be able to have access to Finder and the Dock to make life easier.

 

 

and you ? are you stupid?

Hill Beast
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you should use another disc as based ! this one have been completly repack !!

 

and please respect my work !!!

 

this distrib was my first try ! and respect that or madvillain will kill you!!!

 

ha ha

and you ? are you stupid?

 

You should take this as a compliment that someone respects your work enough to use it as a base for a new product. I'd be wrapped if someone used something of mine even if they were just hacking it up a bit to provide different options.

 

I had included you in the credits, but now that you've called me stupid I've realised that you're just like the other software developers out there: that you can't accept someone improving your work and if someone does then you take it way too seriously.

 

[EDIT: I have reopened the project as I have a new development system]

 

Read my latest post for updates

Hill Beast
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That was part of the idea, but unfortunately when my Intel laptop died I had no system to build or test it on as I have no idea why Mac OS won't install on my desktop other than the fact that its Tiger.

 

It was going to be a full install with AMD and NVIDIA support and it shows up with the Finder and the Dock so if something went wrong with your install you can fix it easily. I figured out how to get the Finder to run (not automatically) but not the Dock.

 

If someone out there wants to pick off where I left off then they can have at it. I don't really care anymore.

Hill Beast
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Well I've managed to wrangle up a new computer for building it on but I'm not setting any release dates as yet as I'm still trying to finish getting my new computer up and running (read my signature for it's specs under Lack Pro)

 

My new goals are:

  • Getting Mac OS X to work on my AMD system
  • A Live DVD interface
  • Good nVidia drivers
  • A minimalistic disc to reduce download size
  • Easy customisation

If you're still interested then let me know and hopefully people can still help!

 

Cheer from Hill Beast

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LiveDVD can easily be done with modbin's LiveDVD package but it was for Leopard, not sure if it would work with T iger. I can help you there if needed. The problem comes when trying to fit the installation packages and the OS X system one one disc. Even after eliminating a lot of the useless stuff from the DVD, the LiveDVD interface alone weighs in at about 3.5GB, but maybe since you are doing Tiger you might be able to get down another gig or so. Unless you can cram all the packages into about 1 gig (or maybe 1.5 gb if you are lucky) of space, a normal DVD will not be enough. You could use a dual layer DVD, but I'm not sure if people would be happy downloading something that big.

 

Best of luck! :angel:

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The problem comes when trying to fit the installation packages and the OS X system one one disc.

 

What I intend to do is have the LiveDVD boot fully, and it will have full functionality. When you want to install it, go into Disk Utility or Clonetools or something and just image the DVD onto your hard drive. When you want to install the extra package just run them. I'll put them in a nice convienient location.

 

Unlike other disks where you only get what they give you and the only way to add more is to use Pacifist or PackageMaker, I'm going to make it so if you want to add extras just open the .dmg and drag and drop your favourite packages or kexts etc.

Hill Beast
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Right, so I've got Finder going. I figured out how to make different programs run on startup rather than 'Installer.app'. I found a line in '/etc/rc.cdrom' that goes:

 

INSTALLER=/Applications/Utilities/Installer.app/Contents/MacOS/Installer

 

And I tried to change it to:

 

INSTALLER=/System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app/Contents/MacOS/Finder

 

But that came up with truckloads of errors in the terminal. It then eventually came up with the prompt after giving me a massive moan session and I figured maybe I try a different program, say 'TextEdit.app' or 'Terminal.app', so I went back and changed the INSTALLER line to:

 

INSTALLER=/Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app/Contents/MacOS/Terminal

 

And I started it up and bingo! I got the Terminal instead of the annoying Installer. I wish I knew why I can start Finder from in Terminal.app, but not from in 'rc.cdrom'. Anyone got any ideas?

 

 

I'm also trying to go in the opposite direction: Take a full install a crop out the Extensions, and various things not needed for a Live DVD and I nicked the kernel from the Install DVD so that it works on both AMD and Intel boxes and I'm going to try that this arvo. Will write later when I've done trying with my results. My main goal is to get it going on my AMD computer which I have tried all sorts so if you have a pain-in-the-butt AMD then I might be a lifesaver. Who knows.

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You should take this as a compliment that someone respects your work enough to use it as a base for a new product. I'd be wrapped if someone used something of mine even if they were just hacking it up a bit to provide different options.

 

I had included you in the credits, but now that you've called me stupid I've realised that you're just like the other software developers out there: that you can't accept someone improving your work and if someone does then you take it way too seriously.

 

[EDIT: I have reopened the project as I have a new development system]

 

Read my latest post for updates

 

Ok let me get it straight you've "taken the Kalyways disc and cut out the {censored}", and you are "also taking out that stupid 'kool themes", basically insulted someone's work then you get offended when you get insulted back? At least out of respect don't call it "{censored}" and "stupid". As a matter of fact the {censored} and stupid stuff you pointed out is what was missing on other distros that wouldn't allow a full install on my system for example. You use the word "stupid" like it is "hello" so don't be offended when you are treated the same. I'm sure you didn't mean it that way but I think that, OSX86 being an international endeavor, attention should be paid to certain offending expressions used toward other contributors.

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I've started working on a new OSX86 distro: HBS Mac OS X 10.4.10. I know it's only using Tiger, but currently that's all I have and used. It's going to be based on Kalyways 10.4.10, but I'll be modifying it alot to try and make it ideal for laptops (Especially the awkward Dell ones :blink: ).

 

Hopefully it'll get used, but probably not :P . If anyone out there wants to get involved the PM me.

 

Cheers,

 

From Hill Beast

 

I still using Kalyways 10.4.10 distro for my Laptop (Asus A 3000), anything works, except graphics (Intel® 82852/82855 GM/GME Graphics Controller).

 

Thanks

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