InorganicMatter Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 So I'm looking at a full redo for the jump to 10.5.3. What EFI implementation is the current preferred? Any big restrictions or advantages for either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karaakeha1 Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 So I'm looking at a full redo for the jump to 10.5.3. What EFI implementation is the current preferred? Any big restrictions or advantages for either? Chameleon RAID Support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iSkylla Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Chameleon, AMD support, Open Source. Chameleon - 2 Netkas EFI - 0 Edit - Chameleon, SSE2 support plus JMicron IDE DVD Support Chameleon - 4 Netkas EFI - 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InorganicMatter Posted June 29, 2008 Author Share Posted June 29, 2008 Can Chameleon use EFI strings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefinalprophecy Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 Pretty sure it can. I'm going to try Chameleon EFI next time I reinstall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karaakeha1 Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 Can Chameleon use EFI strings? OfCourse I am using it already For Graphic, LAN, Audio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackFox Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 so obviously chameleon is the winner. Where do you go to obtain it? or is it somewhat of a closed source thing that teams put into their images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinlar Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 so obviously chameleon is the winner. Where do you go to obtain it? or is it somewhat of a closed source thing that teams put into their images. Do a google and look for the address with a .hu extension on it. I would post the link, but the administrator is blocking it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Waffles Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 * Provides the same (fake) EFI features as PC_EFI * device-properties string in the com.apple.Boot.plist can have line-breaks, tabs, spaces. With PC_EFI you must keep the whole string in one single line - which is hard to maintain. * Unified boot0/boot1h for MBR/GUID partitioned disks - PC_EFI uses a separate boot0/boot1h for GUID disks which makes DVD builders and users work harder. * boot0 can even pick-up unactivated primary HFS+ partitions - PC_EFI can’t. * cdboot is also available (works now with JMicron connected IDE DVD drives) - you can’t get cdboot with PC_EFI. DVD builders would be happy with that, it makes their - and our - life easy. * Can boot from software RAID configs - PC_EFI can’t. * Don’t need to hassle with startupfiletool anymore to embed the stage2 boot onto your partition, instead just copy the ‘boot’ file to your root folder as a single file. boot1h is still compatibile with the old startupfile loading method. * Installation takes only 3 steps: Suppose that your installation is on /dev/disk0s2 1. Install boot0 to the MBR: fdisk -f boot0 -u -y /dev/rdisk0 2. Install boot1h to the partition’s bootsector: dd if=boot1h of=/dev/rdisk0s2 bs=512 count=2 3. Install boot to the partition’s root directory: cp boot / * Supports more CPUs (AMD, Intel SSE2) - PC_EFI only supports Intel CPUs. * As a bonus we’re providing a Vista friendly fdisk which won’t break your current Vista installation in case of dual-booting scenarios. * Chameleon is an opensource (APSL) and open-minded project - how about PC_EFI? Original Link: http://######.com/blog/?p=171 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InorganicMatter Posted July 1, 2008 Author Share Posted July 1, 2008 You've sold me on Chameleon, but my first foray was disappointing. I did my normal procedure: installed from a retail disk, installed 10.5.3, installed the needed kexts. However, when I got to the EFI step, instead of Netkas PC EFI, I just ran the Chameleon installer that was in a DMG on their website. Didn't work. My computer can't see anything to boot from. It just skips right over that disk, even if I use F10 an explicitly specify that disk at boot time, so it's definitely something wrong with the install. Something I'm missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karaakeha1 Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 You've sold me on Chameleon, but my first foray was disappointing. I did my normal procedure: installed from a retail disk, installed 10.5.3, installed the needed kexts. However, when I got to the EFI step, instead of Netkas PC EFI, I just ran the Chameleon installer that was in a DMG on their website. Didn't work. My computer can't see anything to boot from. It just skips right over that disk, even if I use F10 an explicitly specify that disk at boot time, so it's definitely something wrong with the install. Something I'm missing? I used installer many times no problem. Chameleon_1.0.11_installer.dmg.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallonKrd Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 The only issue I see with Chameleon is that it breaks my shutdown and reboot which functioned well with pc_efi. I love the RAID support. My Specs: Vanilla kernel GA-P35-DS4 E6700 @ 2.67Ghz 600 Gb Raid Stripe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drunknbass Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 im curioushow the software raid support will compare to my rocketraid 2300 i am running right now (3 750gb seagate sata booting os x) i get pretty good scores on xbench, but my boot times suck. on the grey apple screen with spinning wheel i have @ 25 spins of the wheel before it boots, where as a single hd with my setup spins like 4-6 times and its booted up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InorganicMatter Posted July 3, 2008 Author Share Posted July 3, 2008 All right, got it! The Chameleon installer doesn't work for my computer. Anyway, I installed it used pcwiz's OSX86 tools, and it all works great! My computer would do a Windows-style hang for around 15 seconds after boot with PC EFI, no more with Chameleon!! me == happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice88 Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Downloading now. Looks to be an improvement over PC_EFI by all means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendelkhan Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 I installed it the other day, added bootstrings for my video and life is good. I grabbed their ppf for the kalyway 10.5.2 for when i install my son's hackintosh next month. I love that it's opensource, which means it's just going to get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InorganicMatter Posted July 3, 2008 Author Share Posted July 3, 2008 I love that it's opensource, which means it's just going to get better. Agree. Some software just needs to be open source. BitTorrent clients, cryptography software, and tools like this of questionable legality all raise the questions of phoning home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nargilem Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 According to this chameleon is definitely better, but is there a reason to install it on my working Desktop ( AMD )? Since I don't want to fix what's not broken for no reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InorganicMatter Posted July 4, 2008 Author Share Posted July 4, 2008 According to this chameleon is definitely better, but is there a reason to install it on my working Desktop ( AMD )?Since I don't want to fix what's not broken for no reason I wouldn't. I'm a neat freak, so I reinstall Mac OS X with each point update. I just used Chameleon this time instead of PC EFI. Chameleon seems nicer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titooo Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Whooaa. I'm gonna try chamaleon then. -I got anCore 2 duo laptop. Do you think it would be still better than chamaleon? -Can anyone show me some links about the efi strings thing? It sounds better than installing kexts for audio and things like that, but I have no idea of what is and how to install efi strings... -Can anyoneplease send me links where somene explains how to add kexts or chamaleon to the kalyway 10.5.2 dvd? I didn't know it was possible! Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slither2008 Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Hi I have to say that I'm thouroughly impressed with the chameleon EFI. I have not once been able to install a vanilla version of leopard on my core 2 duo E6300 with the iATKOS 1.0ir2 or 2.0i versions....I'm going to install the Kalyway 10.5.2 for tpb. I selected the absolute bare minimums....ie. no patches except for the netkas smbios and 1 lan, 1 audio driver and the 9.2 vanilla kernel....Bingo....booted up perfect Marvel lan worked oob and same with audio realtek alc883 on my GUID partition!!! Installed my Nvidia drivers with NVinstaller 0.41 and now everything I need is configured...dual screen worked straight away Nvidia 8800gts 320.....now since I have the vanilla kernel I'm performing an update and hope that will upgrade it from Kalyway 10.5.2 to 10.5.4 in one 560mb software update....tried it and no luck just kp...might have to keep looking for a good 10.5.4 upgrade guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InorganicMatter Posted July 4, 2008 Author Share Posted July 4, 2008 Yeah, I'm thoroughly impressed with Chameleon. I think I'm going to write an all-vanilla-from-retail guide and post it to the genius bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbmac Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Whooaa. I'm gonna try chamaleon then. -I got anCore 2 duo laptop. Do you think it would be still better than chamaleon? -Can anyone show me some links about the efi strings thing? It sounds better than installing kexts for audio and things like that, but I have no idea of what is and how to install efi strings... -Can anyoneplease send me links where somene explains how to add kexts or chamaleon to the kalyway 10.5.2 dvd? I didn't know it was possible! Thanks http://forum.netkas.org/index.php/topic,104.0.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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