Alessandro17 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 http://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/wh...-from-apple.ars Windows is dying, Windows applications suck, and Microsoft is too blinkered to fix any of it—that's the argument. The truth is that Windows is hampered by 25-year old design decisions. These decisions mean that it's clunky to use and absolutely horrible to write applications for. The applications that people do write are almost universally terrible. They're ugly, they're inconsistent, they're disorganized; there's no finesse, no care lavished on them. Microsoft—surely the company with the greatest interest in making Windows and Windows applications exude quality—is, in fact, one of the worst perpetrators. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/101005-from-win32-to-cocoa-a-windows-users-conversion-to-mac-os-x/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
U.C. Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I totally agree Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/101005-from-win32-to-cocoa-a-windows-users-conversion-to-mac-os-x/#findComment-720564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scj312 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Good article. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/101005-from-win32-to-cocoa-a-windows-users-conversion-to-mac-os-x/#findComment-720689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac_cute Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 That is what a lot of people think ,but don't say... ==Real Life== Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/101005-from-win32-to-cocoa-a-windows-users-conversion-to-mac-os-x/#findComment-720720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lostgame Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Great article! Wow, love it. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/101005-from-win32-to-cocoa-a-windows-users-conversion-to-mac-os-x/#findComment-720746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
(MoC) Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I totally agree with the article. It's just that developing Windows applications is annoying and devs don't care even though they put in considerable amounts of work in their creations. He's right, developing Mac apps is more easy and fun. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/101005-from-win32-to-cocoa-a-windows-users-conversion-to-mac-os-x/#findComment-720753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deomitrus Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Woah, absolutely brilliant article. Usually you read these "Mac-fanboy-I-hate-microsoft" articles, but this guy really knew what he was talking about, and explained things down to the core. I love it. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/101005-from-win32-to-cocoa-a-windows-users-conversion-to-mac-os-x/#findComment-720925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted May 1, 2008 Share Posted May 1, 2008 Definitely a rare piece of balanced and informed writing.. enjoyed it a lot. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/101005-from-win32-to-cocoa-a-windows-users-conversion-to-mac-os-x/#findComment-732146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted May 2, 2008 Author Share Posted May 2, 2008 Definitely a rare piece of balanced and informed writing.. enjoyed it a lot. Glad you liked it Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/101005-from-win32-to-cocoa-a-windows-users-conversion-to-mac-os-x/#findComment-732699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forceman Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 Whats so fun and easy about writing OS X apps, from what I've heard it's even more closed, do it Apple's way or not at all. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/101005-from-win32-to-cocoa-a-windows-users-conversion-to-mac-os-x/#findComment-732864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob356 Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 I liked the article, thought it represented an even side. @Forceman Apple does it like that so people CANT write sloppy, crappy apps, that will crash the system. How many times have you had a cocoa app bring down the system? My total is ZERO. (I have had two system halting Carbon app crashes). Apple did a great job with Cocoa. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/101005-from-win32-to-cocoa-a-windows-users-conversion-to-mac-os-x/#findComment-733425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted May 2, 2008 Author Share Posted May 2, 2008 Exactly, rob356, while many applications for Windows will happily crash your system beyond recovery. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/101005-from-win32-to-cocoa-a-windows-users-conversion-to-mac-os-x/#findComment-733467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyin916 Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 hmm.. but what about those games that only windows can play? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/101005-from-win32-to-cocoa-a-windows-users-conversion-to-mac-os-x/#findComment-739524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numberzz Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 hmm.. but what about those games that only windows can play? What about them? Yes there are more games for Windows, just like there are more apps. What is your point? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/101005-from-win32-to-cocoa-a-windows-users-conversion-to-mac-os-x/#findComment-739590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaporATX Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 Exactly, rob356, while many applications for Windows will happily crash your system beyond recovery. Another thing this type of control does is keep the app interface consistent. Makes it a lot easier to just jump in and start using a new app. With Windows (or Linux for that matter) you never know where they are gonna put things or what the shortcut keys are gonna be. Linux has gotten lots better in this respect, but Windows is a freakin' train wreak. hmm.. but what about those games that only windows can play? Well, that's what an optimized install of Windows setup for gaming is for. Boot into that to play, boot back into OS X when it's time to get work done in a timely fashion. Plus, since you're just using it for gaming you can dispense with all the cruft you need to use Windows on a daily basis. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/101005-from-win32-to-cocoa-a-windows-users-conversion-to-mac-os-x/#findComment-739623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorenzosjb Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 I totally agree with the article. It's just that developing Windows applications is annoying and devs don't care even though they put in considerable amounts of work in their creations. He's right, developing Mac apps is more easy and fun. Maybe yes, but closed to only Apple machines. Maybe a better approach for developing is Sun with Java, Netbeans IDE and other pieces of freeware that can run is different platforms. As a web developer, mostly of what I program, goes to Linux servers which are different platform of my workstation. Java openness is great for different platform runtimes. And what about Mono? Open .Net is a interesting choice that runs also on Mac. Regards, Lorenzo Sorry for my english, spanish is my native language. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/101005-from-win32-to-cocoa-a-windows-users-conversion-to-mac-os-x/#findComment-745591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyin916 Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 What about them? Yes there are more games for Windows, just like there are more apps. What is your point? the point is for some people, there will always be some dependency for windows. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/101005-from-win32-to-cocoa-a-windows-users-conversion-to-mac-os-x/#findComment-745696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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