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Posted 21 February 2013 - 01:12 AM

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Wut?

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 09:19 AM

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View Postalexanderq, on 20 February 2013 - 09:25 PM, said:

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I think that others told exactly what i was trying to say
By the way i'm using Clover Chameleon XPC no one is better than the others because its the hard work of a guy and thanks to te people that are giving their work to us for free
And i'm using it for fun nothing else nohing more and as you say:
For me I prefer using XPC to Clover. Because XPC is lighter than Clover. Clover is too heavy and has unnecessary functions for ma as for instance the mouse.
Moreover, XPC can load the system without HPSPlus.efi in constrant to the Clover.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 02:15 PM

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View PostAlex009988, on 21 February 2013 - 09:19 AM, said:

Moreover, XPC can load the system without HPSPlus.efi in constrant to the Clover.
It's imbedded in Efildr, which is not quite legal actually, since its Apples intellectual property.. but oh well.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 06:05 PM

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TimeWalker75a and The other guys What do you think about mbr-instalation for XPC? I have a notion what will happen If I install XPC to the first FAT32 partition. I tried to install XPC to third FAT32 Partition with XPC prepare tool but instead of that I got loading Chameleon.
Theoretically  it is possible because  for computer it makes no difference working with USB flash drive or hard disk. Under stipulation that you would have mede right zero boot-sector.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 06:57 PM

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So it isn't possible to install XPC for MBR at all, right?

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 07:14 PM

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View Posttheconnactic, on 21 February 2013 - 06:57 PM, said:

So it isn't possible to install XPC for MBR at all, right?
I don't know exactly but I think it possible if your FAT32 partition will be first and to do all operations that we make with flash drive.
I could have checked it, but it depends many time to check this idea. In other words I ought to shift my  first mac partition with help of paragon partition manager in my Windows 8 and create FAT32.
As I say adove it is possible in theory if my notion is well.
Perhaps the point is that it's forbidden to install the XPC to the HFS+. But Who said that it is forbidden on FAT32.
Of course I'm satisfied with XPC on flash drive. Because, It doesn't meter whether XPC would be on hard disk or not.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 10:54 AM

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View PostAlex009988, on 21 February 2013 - 09:19 AM, said:

Moreover, XPC can load the system without HPSPlus.efi in constrant to the Clover.
You are wrong.
Clover can load system without HPSPlus.efi in the case of CloverEFI boot == legacy boot - the only boot way supported by XPC.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 02:09 PM

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View PostSlice, on 23 February 2013 - 10:54 AM, said:

You are wrong.
Clover can load system without HPSPlus.efi in the case of CloverEFI boot == legacy boot - the only boot way supported by XPC.
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If my conceptions of Clover are old and wrong then why I see that HFSPlus.efi is needed for both cases "A" and "B"
Counter-pose your words with that was written in manual of Clover.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:30 PM

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View PostAlex009988, on 23 February 2013 - 02:09 PM, said:


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If my conceptions of Clover are old and wrong then why I see that HFSPlus.efi is needed for both cases "A" and "B"
Counter-pose your words with that was written in manual of Clover.
I'm using Clover in legacy boot and trust me. It works without HFSPlus.efi

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 08:14 PM

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View PostAlex009988, on 20 February 2013 - 07:18 PM, said:

Honestly, The XPC is only bootloader where my RAM is detected correctly by OS. In the Clover I see the exaggerated result 1333Mhz instead of 1066Mhz.

View PostAlex009988, on 21 February 2013 - 09:19 AM, said:

For me I prefer using XPC to Clover. Because XPC is lighter than Clover. Clover is too heavy and has unnecessary functions for ma as for instance the mouse.
Moreover, XPC can load the system without HPSPlus.efi in constrant to the Clover.

View PostAlex009988, on 23 February 2013 - 02:09 PM, said:

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If my conceptions of Clover are old and wrong then why I see that HFSPlus.efi is needed for both cases "A" and "B"
Counter-pose your words with that was written in manual of Clover.
You are liar

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 08:29 PM

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View PostSlice, on 23 February 2013 - 08:14 PM, said:

You are liar

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Would you be so kind to tell us why he is a liar?

View PostSlice, on 23 February 2013 - 10:54 AM, said:

You are wrong.
Clover can load system without HPSPlus.efi in the case of CloverEFI boot == legacy boot - the only boot way supported by XPC.

Yeah. The only way that makes sense...

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 08:46 AM

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View PostSlice, on 23 February 2013 - 08:14 PM, said:

You are liar
Ok my evil and captious "friend", no offence intended as opposite to you
I loaded my system with  Clover 1050 by now because Clover 1140 and 1133 refused to load my system. I agree with  you that the main thing is the Clover, not Mac os x. :thumbsup_anim:
I think my sight has became worse. Because I can't see the whole benefit of Clover.
This is with Clover
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This is with XPC
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Moreover Clover is too long booting.
With the previous version of Clover 500-8xx I see the my system froze when I  were watching YouTube. Maybe you fix it now I just don't know but it really was.
Let's see on what who had been developing Clover. There are Slice, Blackosx, dmazar, Jadran, кабыл, STLVNUB, USR-SSE2, PCJ, проникновение, FrodoKenny, skoczy, apianti, ycr.ru
Let's recollect who fix the frequency of processor. I remember it was apianti
Let's recollect who give you fix for DSDT? etc
As you can see My system works beter with XPC rather than Clover.
iPhoneTom did the XPC himself. And you mister have the whole army of developers
I think you should make an apologyze to me.

I didn't say neither bad word and nor insult to you.
But you come to this topic and started assuring of.
It will be better if you will make an extra useful thing. Like this http://www.insanelym...batterymanager/
But instead of that you started charging me with falsehood.
Sometimes thinking about your impolite  behaviour it isn't harmful.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 12:40 AM

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How about the tutorial?

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 06:27 AM

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View Posttheconnactic, on 27 February 2013 - 12:40 AM, said:

How about the tutorial?
http://xpcboot.weebly.com/

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 06:54 AM

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Could someone make this page a topic here in Insanelymac, a XPC General Instructions topic, just like the one Fabio and Slice did for Clover?

Best regards!

P.S.: Congrats to the one who wrote: made seem easy not only to use XPC, but also to create a bootable installation media for OSX.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 07:05 AM

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View Posttheconnactic, on 27 February 2013 - 06:54 AM, said:

Could someone make this page a topic here in Insanelymac, a XPC General Instructions topic, just like the one Fabio and Slice did for Clover?

Best regards!

P.S.: Congrats to the one who wrote: made seem easy not only to use XPC, but also to create a bootable installation media for OSX.
I just attached only link not for a while yet.
Can you check one thing for me?
Download the version from 24.02.13 and see whether you have any problem with entering to GUI.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 05:56 PM

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Ok. I tried latest versions of XPC from 03 to 07 March.
First of all, I feel sorry for disappearance of wallpaper in last versions of XPC
Secondly. Problems of memory are returned in 06,06Late,07 versions.
The others bugs I haven't found
In other words, I return towards previous version named 26.02.13.
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Posted 28 March 2013 - 06:28 AM

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You seriously consider it a *theme*? It's a set of most random images possible to coexist...

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TimeWalker75a, you deleted the criticism you posted yesterday, what i appreciate as a wise decision, since it wasn't exactly a polite review. Anyway, since you already delivered your message, why post it again? :)

All the best!

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 06:43 AM

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View PostTimeWalker75a, on 28 March 2013 - 06:28 AM, said:

You seriously consider it a *theme*? It's a set of most random images possible to coexist...
Aye! What are you talking about? If you can make better, just do it. Don't complain about.
I'm liked by what I did on my own. Because I'm pestered by standard themes which is too simple.

View Posttheconnactic, on 28 March 2013 - 06:35 AM, said:

TimeWalker75a, you deleted the criticism you posted yesterday, what i appreciate as a wise decision, since it wasn't exactly a polite review. Anyway, since you already delivered your message, why post it again? :)

All the best!
I think that  it did some of moderators. Not he. I didn't deleted my retaliatory  post. Consequently TimeWalker couldn't do it as well.
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