afd_sg, on 11 December 2012 - 03:31 AM, said:
@comwave7 you said..
"In business terms, wouldn't Apple welcome hackintoshers because they are doing some part of Apple Dev team's work, say, testing in various systems and finding optimized ones, even without being solicited?"
It does not quite work like you describe. If you have seen that awful recent MBC interview Brian Williams and Tim Cook you will understand the feelings Apple have about hackers, and their daily fight against those determined to rip them off, in
theory there is nothing wrong - but in the US they have what they call intellectual property rights.
I do not concur with you say that hackers help Apple, its the other way round
Do not take anything for granted
Hi, Tony!
Thank you for sharing precious viewpoints and advice. I really appreciate them.
Mostly I agree with you.
And I take, and will take, nothing for granted. And sure, I don’t support or advocate IPRs theft.
What follows is not an argument against your points of view, but just a small clue to develop different points of view on my OS X tests. I hope it can be a free exchange of opinions.
I just watched the interview you mentioned. Tim said,
"It's tough. It's very tough. You have people trying to hack into systems on a constant basis. You have people trying to enlist confidential information about future product plans. All of these things are things that we constantly fight."
As far as I understand, Clover developers and users don't go into the category of "people" Tim talked about. The "people" maybe mean those who compete with Apple and especially who try to hurt its business and make their own money from Apple products. And the exp
ression “systems” possibly doesn’t mean OS X, but Apple’s internal systems, I guess, given the context of the conversation.
Thus, I don’t think that remark proves Apple has a negative position against the users who want to have a different experience on their PCs with their own efforts and risks without giving any harm to its business operations. Apple fights agianst hackers and competitors, not against OS X lovers. People at Apple might laugh internally because these self-serviced users may broaden its base for potential customers. I’ve seen many users who first began with installing OS X on their PCs and then move to buying real Macs when they can afford to.
Even though many call their own OS X-loaded PCs "hackintosh", that doesn't mean they are hackers. As for me, I am a sort of follower of Apple. I like its products and philosophy. I still have an 1998 eMac, which lies in the corner of my house for amusing my eyes. Clover bootloader doesn’t hack any code of OS X, AFAIK. It’s just literally a bootloader. And as UEFI technology comes into everyday use, Clover gives us a chance to utilize the new tech to the full. From Clover EFI bootloader, Apple and many other vendors may get hints or learn something. That’s what I tried to imply in my previous comment to mrengles.
And my point of view can become evident in the case of Intel. Take the K versions of Intel CPUs. As you know, years back, there was no CPU whose maximum speed was unlocked. Owing to many enthusiastic overclockers who wanted to experience the best and highest performance, Intel finally changed its product line-up and released K version, e.g. i7 2600K. This change caused ripple effects and let many normal users enjoy higher speed CPUs.
I think Apple can have a similar approach. Why not it adopts such a positive inclusive position as marketing a version of “OS X Mountain Lion for IBM-PC”(my coinage) to let a huge number of PC users enjoy the pleasure of a new world? I believe someday Apple will, though not soon. If this speculation comes true, you and I might be among those “initial pioneers” of OS X for PC versions thanks to many talented and open-minded developers.
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