Justification of our first iAnnoyance Challenge

Hear hear to the part about Activity Monitor (which I registered on Ars forums just to point out). That, along with System Profiler, get really annoying when two days after I thought I quit them, I find out they're still hogging RAM.

Yeah, I saw your comment moksha. Thanks for the backup.

Supposedly a well written app won't take any system resources while in the "closed but open" Dock purgatory. While this is mostly true, I've seen otherwise in the past.

the poitn of maximizing a window or closing a window instead of minimizing (not quitting the app) is not trying to make it like windows, its trying to give more preferences to the user. :/ its just logic to me, to maximize instead of make the window bigger.

I don't think it could be said any better than non sequitur. The point of this app is to allow users more options and preferences to its users. Once this is done I'm going to be using the red X for quiting apps but not all apps. This isn't intended by any means to simulate Windows, although it can be used to if desired.

Well, anyways I can't wait. Good luck to all participants!

there was a hack(?) for OS7.5-9.22 that did the same thing, i installed it on an old Powerbook i gave to my mum because she would never remember to close any apps after she finished with them, its not a new idea and has clearly been annoying mac users for years. It would be nice if add developers would give you the option to change how their apps react being closed in the add prefs though, even some windows apps give you that option.

I feel really sorry that you had to write this post Mash. All we (I say we - the designers) were doing was giving people the OPTION to customize the behaviors as THEY wanted. If the readers at ARS like the way it works they dont have to use the app.

It is just logic as Non Sequitur says.

Mash, IMHO you never have to justify a good thing.

And for those wondering, future iAnnoyance apps will likely be 1) easier and 2) less contoversial (adding options to the desktop, etc).

i hope you reconsider the above decision. i don't know why you would want to make it "easier", and the idea that Stoplight is controversial is absurd.

please don't compromise your simple open-ended vision of iAnnoyances into mediocrity.

Well, I´ve read the whole Ars thread and I really can´t understand the reaction of some posters. To me, this behaviour pretty much resembles some form of "tech" fundamentalism. Sirs, a computer/OS is not a belief/religion/dogma/whatever, but a tool. Any utility written to give options to the user -even if you consider it an stupid one- would have to be welcome. In any case, you have the choice to use it or not, and if I use it, it does not affect you at all! By the way, attempting to stop somebody´s choice has a very ugly name...

Just my thoughts. Congratulations to the forum team and, of course, to the challenge winners. And please, excuse my poor English.

Best regards,

Enrique.

I started to post in this thread just after it appeared but decided maybe I was going to be too harsh about what I wanted to say. I probably still will, but I gotta be me.

Mash, I feel bad that you felt it necessary to make this thread at all, as some of the others sortakinda already said. You have nothing you need to justify to anyone, let alone "true" Mac fanatics that simply live each day hating anyone that doesn't think Apple and the Macintosh are perfect in every way. Sorry, but Apples aren't cherry blossoms (see "The Last Samurai" if you don't get the reference).

Each person is unique, therefore each person actually has a specific way to use a computer, or a specific way it works best for that person. The good thing is that nowadays more and more people are actually beginning to realize "Wow, I can change the colors? I don't have to leave it looking like that? You mean I can actually make it look and work the way I want it to work because I think it'll be better that way?"

Good for them, good for us, and those "diehards" that don't want to change anything, well... you know what you can do with yourselves.

Windows users that are considering Macs are better off if they can make it feel, look, and sound like they want it to feel, look, and sound.

I think it's silly at all that people don't customize their machines, personalize them in any way they can. If everyone was still using simple beige PCs, that would fly in the face of "Think Different" wouldn't it?

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Now I am not a software engineer or I would fix this one myself.

What I'd like to see is a fix to repair what Apple did to iPhoto when they released the current version and iWeb. In previous versions you could create photo homepages directly to your.mac account from iPhoto. It was a snap. Now, you can no longer do this but instead you must use iWeb.

Why did they change this? To make users buy more software of course but instead what they have done is upset a lot of users (check the mac forums).

This is yet another example of how Apple sometimes moves forward in the wrong direction.

Hopefully, I have given someone a good idea.

I think it could only be labeled as controversial if Apple themselves were making this change, and you didn't have a choice but to accept this change. Obviously you do have a choice - you can either not install the app, or configure it in such a way where only a few apps work in that certain way (personally i like leaving the Activity Monitor open, and having the icon changed to the memory usage).

Is there a thread somewhere to post suggestions for the challenge?