wentakura Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Folks, I found a very interesting board for an octamachine. It's an microATX with 5100 chipset. It supports normal DDR2 RAM and the price is very nice. It has 1 PCIe x16. It is perfect if you want a small octamachine with lots of power. Im thinking of buying it myself. http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherb...100/X7DCA-L.cfm Tell me what you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlad1966 Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Folks, I found a very interesting board for an octamachine. It's an microATX with 5100 chipset. It supports normal DDR2 RAM and the price is very nice. It has 1 PCIe x16. It is perfect if you want a small octamachine with lots of power. Im thinking of buying it myself. http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherb...100/X7DCA-L.cfm Tell me what you think. I personally would stay away from this board - outdated chipset, limited expansion slots, only 6 RAM slots (I prefer 8 with a dual socket board). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wentakura Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 I personally would stay away from this board - outdated chipset, limited expansion slots, only 6 RAM slots (I prefer 8 with a dual socket board). What is the difference in performance in speed between the 5100 and 5400chipset? But if you pay 270$ for this board you would drasticly cut price to get an octamachine. Specially when you dont need to buy the more expensive FB memories. Ad a 8800GTX flashed to a Quadro 5600 you probably be fine. Dont you think? Im gonna use machine for HD editing and compositing. On most SG forums most people speak more about having a faster GPU then a fast CPU. My budget is limited specially when Im a student. If I had the money I probably go for the 5400 but that means expensivier PSU, memory, motherboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vladthebad Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 5100 chipset supports dual channel DDR2 5400 is QUAD channel fully buffered DDR2/DDR3 (Depending on motherboard... memory interface of the actual chips doesn't matter because of the buffering chip. If someone wanted to make a small run of FB-DIMMs using GDDR4 or whatever rediculously crazy new graphics ram is available... they could. anyways...... much more memory bandwidth on the 5400. much more PCIe bandwidth..... AND you get to use the ESB2 southbridge instead of that desktop derived ICH8/9 {censored}. Sure, ICH8/9 are great for some things.... but you lose so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wentakura Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Ok...ive changed my plans again. Im gonna buy following components: Supermicro X7DWA-N. 5400 chipset. Only reason I dont buy Tyan similar is because people are having problem with heat on the Tyan motherboards. Way over 50 c!!! 2 Intel E5410 2.4 gonna pin mod them up to 2.8 with stock fan. 1 8800GTX. 2x4 Corsair FB-Dimms ECC 1.8v Vlad how about this config? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skull_Trails Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Did u setup Supermicro X7DWA-N. 5400 chipset System..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me@home Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 Did u setup Supermicro X7DWA-N. 5400 chipset System..? I did order: Supermicro X7DWA-N 2x Xeon 5410 2x Thermalright HR-01 X Heatsink Lian Li PC V2110A + Well I hope it will all fit together.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vbetts Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 Nice choice for a case. Lian Li has always made some high quality cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelle Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 Hi, I'm wondering if there are any fully compatible motherboards that would handle two of the new quad-core xeon CPU's. I've searched around in the forums/google for awhile, but haven't found anything. I've got a supermicro motherboard with 2*2.5Ghz quad core xeon. Works perfectly, highly recommended, incredible quality and value for money. Run through this thread for other options ( tyan for example ). http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherb...400/X7DWA-N.cfm Good luck, -jelle Vlad how about this config? Hi wentakura, I have had the system you describe for 3 months now and its working absolutely wonderful. The hw is perfectly supported. Go for it! -jelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Nephilim Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 On a whim I dashed together a quick Skulltrail based system on Newegg, trying to keep as close as possible to an actual Mac Pro. As configured, the Mac costs $13,587.00, while the PC goes for $7,688.83. The Mac's specs were: 2 3.0GHz Xeons 16GB 800MHz RAM 4x 1TB SATA HD 4x Radeon 2600 (Laughable, I know.) 2x 30" Apple Cinema And standard options such as superdrive, mouse/keyboard, etc. I was stuck at 16GB because there's only 4 slots on Skulltrail, and the CPU was because Newegg didn't have 3.2GHz CPUs in stock ATM. (The idea being that you could actually build this today.) I also left the Radeons alone despite the availability of single card solutions that would make a 2600 look terrible in order to maintain parity between the configurations. The PC's specs were: Intel Skulltrail Motherboard: $629 2x Intel Xeon E5450: $1939.98 16GB Mushkin 800MHz FB-DIMM: $1159.98 4x Hitachi 1TB SATA HD: $799.96 2x Samsung Syncmaster 305T: $2479.98 PC Power & Cooling 1KW PSU: $299.99 4x Asus EAH2600XT Video Cards: $216.96 The rest is the usual PC stuff; case, mouse, keyboard, etc. So, apparently, there's something to the whole Hackintosh thing after all. Of course, I get about the same result checking Dell's best against Newegg, but in the case of Apple, you'd usually not have that alternative. And as most posters here are aware, for a lower horsepower solution you wouldn't even come close to Apple's $2,800 starting price for a Mac Pro on equivalent hardware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibm390s Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 i just installed Kalyway on a skulltrail. But i still fight with the GX2 card. Some pics with the board and the OSx running. I hope that maybe somebody can recommend me some good places where i can find documentation because i'm a noob in the Mac World ( this was my first contact with something different than OpenBSD and windowz ) and i don't really understand the concept. Thanks in advance. L.E The config: 2xQX9775 4x1GB Kingston KHX6400F2LLK2_2G (two 2x1GB Kits) 1xEVGA 9800 GX2 Ultra X3 1600W PSU 1xWD Velociraptor HP LP3065 Monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khan_Man Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 I've been doing some shopping. If U try to recreate a Mac Pro... as soon as U try for the E5462s, they are $1100 dollars canadian a piece. $2200 dollars for just the processors. Yikes!! Mac Pro starts @ $2800 Canadian dollars. Of course U can use lesser processors like the E5410. I can get a: Supermicro X7DWA-N EATX 5400 Dual Xeon LGA771 2PCI-X 2PCI-E16 2PCI SATA RAID GBLAN Motherboard 2-5 Business Days 28763 $502.99 $502.99 EVGA E-GEFORCE 8800GT 600MHZ 512MB 1.8GHZ DDR3 PCI-E Dual DVI-I HDTV Out Video Card *IR-$60* In Stock 27704 $159.99 $159.99 Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 1000GB 1TB SATA2 7200RPM 32MB Cache NCQ Hard Drive OEM In Stock 26387 $189.75 $189.75 Pioneer DVR-216DBK Black 20X SATA OEM DVDRW No Software In Stock 31942 $34.99 $34.99 Corsair HX1000W CMPSU-1000HX 1000W ATX 20/24PIN ATX 80A 12V Afc Modular Power Supply W/ 14 *IR-$20* In Stock 28797 $244.99 $244.99 Kingston System Specific 4GB 2X2GB PC2-6400 DDR2-800 240PIN FBDIMM Kit for Apple Intel Mac Pro In Stock 32736 $199.99 $199.99 Antec Nine Hundred Mid Tower Gamer Case 900 ATX 9 Drive Bay No PS Top USB2.0 1394 Audio In Stock 21123 $106.05 $106.05 D-LINK DGE-530T Gigaexpress 10/100/1000MBPS RJ-45 Network Card PCI 32BIT In Stock 14802 $28.06 $28.06 Intel Xeon E5410 Quad Core 2.33GHZ LGA771 12MB 1333FSB Harpertown Retail Processor W/ Active HSF In Stock 27479 $319.99 $639.98 Total = $2100 bucks + shipping + taxes.... yikes. The main disadvantage would be the slower front side bus. As soon as U try for 1600 MHz, price goes crazy. Mac Pro has smaller hard drive and memory but faster processors and bus. What Apple charges for memory and HD is crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mind_bomb Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Gosh, do you really have to tempt me?!?! I already told myself during the past few weeks of silence in this thread to not drop the ball ona Dual-Socket, OCTOCORE. grr...now i'm back to the drawing board. Anyway, thanks for the confirmation and reassurance, and the ZERO problem reply. It really makes it so much more tempting...y'kno that feeling?BTW: Awesome GeekBench results! Is everything included in your SIG? ANd what what the total cost of it all? Is this your motherboard with blue-dye (kind of like the mac pro logic motherboard)? http://www.phoronix.net/image.php?id=490&a...5000xl_mobo_lrg Hi , I dont know how far didi you get but i got it running on SuperMicro X7DWA-N without any major problems I have triple boot with Ubuntu 64-bit , One problem i run into is sound still didnt get it to work on ALC 883 any one have a idea ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g4sho Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 My GeekBench Score http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/78347 Hi all, I finally got my 8 core Hackintosh to install Kalyway 10.5.2. after months of trying, turned out that I had to update my AMI bios from 3.00 to 3.03 and everything worked from there. I did the vanilla 9.2.2 kernel install and after I back up my drive I am going to try to see if I can use apple update, without breaking anything. My hardware is as follows: Tyan s5376 dual 771 motherboard with Intel 5100 Northbridge and ICH9R Southbridge 2 -5410 Xeon processors(quad) onboard 82573 Lan( 2port by intel) 8gig DDR2-667 ECC ram, 4- 500gig SATA-2 hard drives 1- 1Terabyte SATA-2 hard drive 1-Pioneer Blu-Ray Rom drive(SATA) GeForce 7800gt(256mb) usb wireless keyboard and mouse AMI Bios Version 3.03 build date 8/2008. G4sho Other systems 2.4 ghz opteron system w/2gig ram, 6600gt, 2-200gig drives Mac Mini 2.0ghz core2 duo, 7200rpm 120gig hard drive 2gig ram MacBookPro 2.4 ghz 4gig ram, 8600gt graphics, 7200rpm 180gig Sata drive Zalman 2.4ghz(overclocked to 3.4ghz) core2 duo Media Center Pc with 6.5 inch touchscreen case 2gig ram 2.5 terabyte of storage ati 2600xt 512mb 3.0 ghz Pentium4 system server, Stacker 810case, 8 ide hard drives 1.2 terabytes of storage, dvd-r burner 2gig ram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsz0 Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 Tyan s5376 dual 771 motherboard with Intel 5100 Northbridge and ICH9R Southbridge How is this board working out for you? I just bought the same model. LAN works? Have you tried sleep? I got a par of LV Xeons cheap, 50W TDP each. I'm going from a Quad core and I'm calculating my power usage is going to actually go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g4sho Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 Jsz0, everything works on the board, in fact vanilla install of Leopard from retail disk. Only thing, my board did not have onboard sound. So I had to get a Edirol ua-ex1 usb sound module for it. That works for analog output, digital out does not work, or at least I have not been able to get it to work. Lan, Sata,usb, sleep, all work. g4sho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsz0 Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 I just built an octo-core OSX86 box. Tyan S2692 + two low voltage Xeons. Everything works perfectly. LAN + sound + sleep. Using JaS 10.5.4 updated to 10.5.5 The S2692 is fairly cheap these days since it's based on the older 5000X -- it's a great choice for an affordable, hassle free, OSX86 workstation. I'm really impressed with the low voltage Xeons. Full load, doing video encoding for 2 hours, and the heatsinks are cool to the touch. I haven't had a chance to hookup my Kill-A-Watt yet but I suspect this box is actually lower power than my previous quad core system by a decent margin. Primarily I'm using this setup for Logic. I've yet to run into a single CPU limitation. Disk IO is definitely my limiting factor now. Video encodes are insanely fast. About 5 minutes for a 350MB file to h264 "Go Nuts" in VisualHub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockyIII Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 I just built an octo-core OSX86 box. Tyan S2692 + two low voltage Xeons. Everything works perfectly. LAN + sound + sleep. Using JaS 10.5.4 updated to 10.5.5 The S2692 is fairly cheap these days since it's based on the older 5000X -- it's a great choice for an affordable, hassle free, OSX86 workstation. I'm really impressed with the low voltage Xeons. Full load, doing video encoding for 2 hours, and the heatsinks are cool to the touch. I haven't had a chance to hookup my Kill-A-Watt yet but I suspect this box is actually lower power than my previous quad core system by a decent margin. Primarily I'm using this setup for Logic. I've yet to run into a single CPU limitation. Disk IO is definitely my limiting factor now. Video encodes are insanely fast. About 5 minutes for a 350MB file to h264 "Go Nuts" in VisualHub. Hi Jsz0 Could you give us a more detailed description of your octo-core OSX86 box. What kind of components do you use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revert Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 I almost purchased a SUPERMICRO MBD-X7DCA-L-O, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813182158 last night until coming across this thread and reading about the reduced bandwidth. I have a question, would using this board with an E5410 be comparable to a pre 2008 Mac Pro in terms of speed? Howerver, i'm now considering another board, SUPERMICRO MBD-X7DWA-N-O, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813182154. Any opinions on this board, if it's a good option and chances of getting OS X up and running? Finally, if i purchase this board, any reccomendations for a case, preferably in the $100 to $150 price range, i have my own power supply and a 9800GT to throw in this. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlad1966 Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 revert, check out this case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811219020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revert Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Thanks, i'll take a look. My only concern would ne how loud this case would be. Someone else has posted using the same board as above and he's using actual Mac Pro memory, wondering if it's woth buying? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820349019 Good for reducing heat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanems3 Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 asus z7s ws works now, you have to install ACPI-fix.. runs fine with my system.. only issue is it sees 2cpu and 1 core per cpu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revert Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Thanks for the info Shanems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1dog Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 OKay I've seen this question in this thread but it never got an answer and I am wondering about it too. The huge difference in RAM prices in the FBDIMM 800MHz CL5's: Mushkin PC2-6400 4GB 2X2GB DDR2-800 $139 Kingston 4GB 800MHZ FBDIMM KIT (2x2GB) $187 Apple 4GB Kit $191 Apple Corsair 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 667 $230 Whats the difference? Will they all work? Now could I use any of these in my build with the TeamScream mobo: Tempest i5000XT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsz0 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Hi Jsz0 Could you give us a more detailed description of your octo-core OSX86 box. What kind of components do you use? Sure, Motherboard is a Tyan S2692 with a pair of LV (low power) Xeons Video is an E-VGA 8800GTS 320MB using GFX string 4GB FB-DIMMS (2x2GB) BIOS settings are pretty much stock. I don't remember changing anything too important. The nice thing about this board is not only does sleep work but it will wakeup via key/mouse event which is something I could never get working on my previous hackintosh (had to use the power button) It's been pretty much flawless. I want to replace the video card with something cooler. The 8800GTS is just too much of a power hog. I used JAS 10.5.4 and then updated to 10.5.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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