enb14 Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 I tryied copying all kexts to my 10.4.3 8F1111A and it got receiving a message with a AppleEFIRuntime.kext that couldn't be loaded, this message was in yellow color so don't copy all kexts to your already working 10.4.3. Maxxuss, jas and others please try to bypass this new protection. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/6993-confirmed-1044-checks-for-efi/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
discorocker Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Thats not a protection, its support for EFI. Mac OS X 10.4.3 still loads, as do some of the new kexts. EFI Runtime obviously won't load if your system has no EFI. Duh! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/6993-confirmed-1044-checks-for-efi/#findComment-43368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
enb14 Posted January 17, 2006 Author Share Posted January 17, 2006 (edited) If it doesn't loads because there's not EFI that's a protection it it weren't a protection it continued to load as it does when you add a kext that is invalid duh Edited January 17, 2006 by enb14 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/6993-confirmed-1044-checks-for-efi/#findComment-43378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrana Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 grr. pedant. Thanks for the confirmation, enb14. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/6993-confirmed-1044-checks-for-efi/#findComment-43381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
enb14 Posted January 17, 2006 Author Share Posted January 17, 2006 You are welcome Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/6993-confirmed-1044-checks-for-efi/#findComment-43390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
discorocker Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 OK, my Intel D945GTP with a Pentium D 820 boots fine with the Apple EFI extension. The reason your system doesn't boot is somewhere else. If you don't believe me, reinstall the origninal 10.4.3 extensions and then add the Apple EFI extension. Your system should boot. So the Apple EFI extensions is NOT a protection measure! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/6993-confirmed-1044-checks-for-efi/#findComment-43413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arenared Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 I remember when 10.4.1 was looking for a TPM.. i never had one of those chips. . im sure EFI can be bypassed.. or at least ignored..??? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/6993-confirmed-1044-checks-for-efi/#findComment-43422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
domino Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Thanks for using the image I posted with my PDA phone.. Oh, and thanks for telling me that my system doesn't support EFI with the image I posted. ...with my pda phone http://forum.osx86project.org/index.php?s=...indpost&p=43331 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/6993-confirmed-1044-checks-for-efi/#findComment-43428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 (edited) While I certainly do not want to mess with all the love in this thread, I am getting the idea we need a general EFI/BIOS thread because I really do not think anyone here has a very good understanding of what is now perhaps the critical technology. It used to be Rosetta was the key to making things work, now wether it be booting Windows on the new EFI x86 Macs or using ATI drivers on generic hardware, the lack of understanding EFI/BIOS issues is the now common problem. Does anyone else think this forum need a general EFI/BIOS thread so we can discuss how this transition to EFI is supposed to work in some technical detail? Edited January 17, 2006 by bofors Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/6993-confirmed-1044-checks-for-efi/#findComment-43435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
domino Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Maybe the wiki needs updating with the information. This thread certainly shouldn't be the thread to discus such matters. especially with the first post claining that he took the screen shot and misinformation. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/6993-confirmed-1044-checks-for-efi/#findComment-43439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvin Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 The EFI runtime module has one missing symbol: $ sudo kextload -t AppleEFIRuntime.kext kextload: extension AppleEFIRuntime.kext appears to be valid kld(): Undefined symbols: _gPEEFISystemTable kextload: kld_load_from_memory() failed for module /Users/melvin/Desktop/Extensions/AppleEFIRuntime.kext/Contents/MacOS/AppleEFIRuntime kextload: a link/load error occured for kernel extension AppleEFIRuntime.kext load failed for extension AppleEFIRuntime.kext (run kextload with -t for diagnostic output) In order to test this out, we'll need the mach_kernel from 10.4.4. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/6993-confirmed-1044-checks-for-efi/#findComment-43490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_painless Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 (edited) I don't understand it: I read that EFI will replace BIOS in the future - correct? Will we be able to boot 10.4.4 with a PC wich uses a basic input/output system? EDIT: Forget my stupid question, I think I understood it now... Edited January 17, 2006 by the_painless Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/6993-confirmed-1044-checks-for-efi/#findComment-43516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvin Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 There's now a wiki page that attempts to explain the current situation: http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/EFI Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/6993-confirmed-1044-checks-for-efi/#findComment-43518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
myzar Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 your system doesn't load because you screwed something else prolly wrong permissions on the kexts. According to your shot it's the ata kext not loading so the still waiting for root device msg. I've copied the whole 10.4.4 extension folder on my system and everything is working fine, i've deleted the efiruntime & don't steal this mac kext but prolly doesn't matter Vmware can't boot with 10.4.4 acpi kext i get a panic, but it works in native Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/6993-confirmed-1044-checks-for-efi/#findComment-43519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
enb14 Posted January 17, 2006 Author Share Posted January 17, 2006 your system doesn't load because you screwed something else prolly wrong permissions on the kexts. According to your shot it's the ata kext not loading so the still waiting for root device msg. I've copied the whole 10.4.4 extension folder on my system and everything is working fine, i've deleted the efiruntime & don't steal this mac kext but prolly doesn't matter Vmware can't boot with 10.4.4 acpi kext i get a panic, but it works in native Thanks Domino for your picture I'll remove it later and post mine. myzar what are your specs? I copied all kexts and I also post a picture from my real PC not the one from Domino's, another thing now I'm getting an error with ApplePS2 kexts so something broke that. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/6993-confirmed-1044-checks-for-efi/#findComment-43595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
munky Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 dumb question, but does this mean 10.4.4 intel has been leaked? anyone throw maxxuss a copy? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/6993-confirmed-1044-checks-for-efi/#findComment-43610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
myzar Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 2 kexts can cause problems from 10.4.4 applesmbios & unsupported.kext in the system.kext. applesmbios causes the panic in vmware and most likely the acpi panic too. to enb14 winchester 3200+ 81111g to munky , not yet , it's not in the wild, someone got his new imac and posted the extension folder Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/6993-confirmed-1044-checks-for-efi/#findComment-43617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
enb14 Posted January 17, 2006 Author Share Posted January 17, 2006 your system doesn't load because you screwed something else prolly wrong permissions on the kexts. According to your shot it's the ata kext not loading so the still waiting for root device msg. I've copied the whole 10.4.4 extension folder on my system and everything is working fine, i've deleted the efiruntime & don't steal this mac kext but prolly doesn't matter Vmware can't boot with 10.4.4 acpi kext i get a panic, but it works in native myzar can you tell us how you did it (all steps) because me and discorocker are having problems with this kext Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/6993-confirmed-1044-checks-for-efi/#findComment-43618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
munky Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 sweet - still progress. anyone know what happened to the 'other' forum? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/6993-confirmed-1044-checks-for-efi/#findComment-43623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
myzar Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 myzar can you tell us how you did it (all steps) because me and discorocker are having problems with this kext logged in as root, unpacked the zip on the desktop then i've copied all the kexts but applesmbios , the efi one, don't steal this mac and the unsupported kext i've repaired the permissions and rebooted with -f in your shot there isn't a panic but it says still waiting for root devices so it's not seeing your ata controller so either applesmbios is the culprit or the old kext was modified with the device id of your ata controller. Copy back the one from 10.4.3 fix permissions and reboot Most likely is applesmbios , try with the one from 10.4.3 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/6993-confirmed-1044-checks-for-efi/#findComment-43629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
domino Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 myzar, you didn't get any other "bad kext loading"? excluding any of the EFI stuff. I know about the ata controller though. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/6993-confirmed-1044-checks-for-efi/#findComment-43638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
myzar Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 myzar, you didn't get any other "bad kext loading"? excluding any of the EFI stuff. I know about the ata controller though. AppleSMBIOS can cause havoc because looks like apple has changed the way it talks to the bios, unsupported.kext tries to talk to efi too i saw a bunch of undefinied efi symbols. all the rest works fine on my system Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/6993-confirmed-1044-checks-for-efi/#findComment-43643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigxcpu Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 so, now you have a 10.4.3 kernel with 10.4.4 extensions? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/6993-confirmed-1044-checks-for-efi/#findComment-43645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
myzar Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 so, now you have a 10.4.3 kernel with 10.4.4 extensions? yes Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/6993-confirmed-1044-checks-for-efi/#findComment-43646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
enb14 Posted January 17, 2006 Author Share Posted January 17, 2006 logged in as root, unpacked the zip on the desktop then i've copied all the kexts but applesmbios , the efi one, don't steal this mac and the unsupported kext i've repaired the permissions and rebooted with -f in your shot there isn't a panic but it says still waiting for root devices so it's not seeing your ata controller so either applesmbios is the culprit or the old kext was modified with the device id of your ata controller. Copy back the one from 10.4.3 fix permissions and reboot Most likely is applesmbios , try with the one from 10.4.3 Ok, I'll try it tonight by the way can somebody try to load AppleEFI kext with an EFI motheboard? remember that newer ATI drivers are using EFI extensions so maybe we need to load AppleEFI to get newer drivers in the future (Nvidia as example) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/6993-confirmed-1044-checks-for-efi/#findComment-43734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts