mickles Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 I don't see anything against the law if you post a driver.8500 kext are drivers for ATI 9xxx cards. Also, many posts on this forum contains attachments with kexts, including Ati 7500 (the one you download for your testing). May be I'm wrong? Whatever, if you find that there is no problem, please upload it. Maybe you can make some tutorial also if you have time. (all the kexts needed + how to) See you around, Sasha it's rather early to make a how-to or files needed type thing. Mainly because there is no how-to, no real breakthrough yet. The 10.4.1 opengl stuff shows a *marginal performance boost* but its hardly worth wetting your pants over. For anyone here, if you need certain files PM one of us that has them. At some point I might get around to putting the 10.4.1 opengl stuff somewhere. You can get the bundle from the 7500 package, and so the only thing really is the 8500GL plugin. All other files from other versions (the other 10.4.1 8500 kexts for example) haven't been linked with *any* progress as of yet. So if you want to mess around and have lots of time to do so, feel free. If you're looking for a solution to your problem and a nice packaged installer and howto then you're simply out of luck, and will be until someone cracks this. I might add that I've got all versions of osx86 and that as mentioned before you can get 10.4.5-10.4.9 directly from apple yourself. They're relatively small downloads (100mb or so), and you can use pacifist to extract kexts from them. If you're really serious about experimenting with this stuff, then it's probably worthwhile to download the original 10.4.1 deadmoo image and/or 10.4.3 8f1111 iso or something, so that you have these versions to use for files. Probably a good idea to get those while they're still being seeded around the net before they become defunct. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/41235-mobility-radeon-9000-thread/page/5/#findComment-336419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam1972 Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 Is there anything about these drivers that would be causing my Dell D600 (Mobility Radeon 9000)? I used Jas's 10.4.8 AMD Intel release which worked fine except for the graphics... I keep getting crashes just opening some programs.. Like I attempted to open Parallels today and it closes with the same graphic error (at least as far as I can tell.. something about an 8500 and opengl.. a window server error I believe... ) as when I try and watch a DVD, watch a movie on Itunes and play chess. I read that previously Freakymac's opengl file help this situation? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/41235-mobility-radeon-9000-thread/page/5/#findComment-338148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreakyMac Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Well, Im still trying to Figure what when wrong with the OpenGL File i made, i mean't it to Extract OpenGL.framework to the framwork directory but it just has the files that are in the folder not the WHOLE File BTW: I played around with the CompacX1000.dmg and installed it, When i rebooted and looked at the extensions that loaded, it had ATINDRV load along with ATIRadeon8500.kext weird huh? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/41235-mobility-radeon-9000-thread/page/5/#findComment-340167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickles Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 my guess is they're unrelated. But its still interesting I spose. You can often load a kext w/o it actually doing anything or being officially recognized... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/41235-mobility-radeon-9000-thread/page/5/#findComment-340890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreakyMac Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Btw that was the FIRST Time ATINDRV has loaded i have seen Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/41235-mobility-radeon-9000-thread/page/5/#findComment-340970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dev* Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 I've been toying with this in 10.4.8 on my inspiron 600m (radeon 9000, 64mb - 4c66) with a spare hard drive, and followed much of the advice on this thread to see how far I could get. Katana allowed me to finally get Callisto b003 working properly, as it appears to be difficult to find a proper copy at this point and the newer versions crash on boot with my box. AGPGart 2.1 also works fine as a result. This first part was the most important step of course, since it allowed me to use 1400x1050. I also grabbed the old opengl framework from the 7500 package, which improved the appearance of flurry in the preview window (woopdeedoo), but didn't really generate much if any useful improvement to the os. Finally, I tried some 8500 kexts - the 10.4.8 and 10.4.9 (copied from a real intel mac for the heck of it) versions would not load. I extracted the one from apple's 10.4.6 update, and it loaded. If I tried to use the CallistoFB framebuffer, the video would be scrambled after the OS loaded, so I had to SSH in and revert that change. I later noticed that after getting the 8500 kext to load, the screensaver preview in sys prefs, and video previews in finder cause their respective processes to crash. As such I disabled the 8500 kext all together for now. Is this the end of the road for now? It's a shame, because I'm not even that concerned about quartz express support at this stage, but it's a bummer that I can't get video playback at all from VLC (with any output module) or mplayer. Each of them crash after a short burst of audio playback. I appreciate all the work you've all put into trying to get this thing functional. I hope what little information is here doesn't get lost... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/41235-mobility-radeon-9000-thread/page/5/#findComment-342220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickles Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 believe it or not, I've gotten the best results with quicktime. It's very slightly choppy and occasionally freezes for a few seconds, but compared to the other media players its quite useable. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/41235-mobility-radeon-9000-thread/page/5/#findComment-342382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dev* Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 believe it or not, I've gotten the best results with quicktime. It's very slightly choppy and occasionally freezes for a few seconds, but compared to the other media players its quite useable. I noticed the same, but many of the videos I watch/make are in formats unsupported by quicktime so it's not really a solution. Considering the nature of vlc I'm a bit surprised it doesn't have a more basic output module on osx than opengl. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/41235-mobility-radeon-9000-thread/page/5/#findComment-342522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickles Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 dev: assuming you watch/make divx or xvid I believe you shouldnt have any trouble with them in quicktime if you install the respective codecs separately. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/41235-mobility-radeon-9000-thread/page/5/#findComment-342880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dev* Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Thanks for the effort, but I am well aware of the capabilities of quicktime (and lack thereof). My problem with quicktime is mainly it's lack of support for containers other than MOV, MP4, AVI... which is off-topic for this thread I only posted my situation in interest of maintaining a drive to find solutions to get these other applications useable. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/41235-mobility-radeon-9000-thread/page/5/#findComment-343087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redoxin Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Does creative suite from adobe use qe/ci? I mean photoshop flash dreamweaver. Do they need qe/ci to work better? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/41235-mobility-radeon-9000-thread/page/5/#findComment-344371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodo Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 Hm...after trying all the HowTos described I get the feeling that the 9000 finally gets an "unsupported" tag concerning OSX. with no trick I managed to get a nice playback performance for full screen videos on my 1400x1050 lcd... Perhaps we can come to a conclusion... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/41235-mobility-radeon-9000-thread/page/5/#findComment-349819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurson Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 after many tried and error, we are still not able to make things work. life is really suuk. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/41235-mobility-radeon-9000-thread/page/5/#findComment-351170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreakyMac Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Hello everyone, I been experimenting with Linux and everything, why don't we port the Driver from Linux to mac ne ? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/41235-mobility-radeon-9000-thread/page/5/#findComment-351785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodo Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 I think someone did already try this...perhaps it cannot be done without major additonial programming efforts and decent knowledge about osx programming... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/41235-mobility-radeon-9000-thread/page/5/#findComment-353640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramoncio Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 Hi! I have an ATI Radeon 9000 64mb (4c66) too in my 16,1" P4 3.06GHz laptop, and Intel i810 in my 12" Centrino 1.7GHz. Finally I got i810 working great in osx86: QE, CI, full screen video with mplayer plays great and even maximize and minimize windows effects from latest mplayer versions work really great. But 4c66 seems to be cursed. Is anything better than katana yet? It's funny how my best graphic's card laptop in windows and linux is my worst graphics laptop for osx86. This thread and your efforts are our only hope. Thanks a lot for keeping trying! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/41235-mobility-radeon-9000-thread/page/5/#findComment-354447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodo Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 Perhaps we should offer a reward for a driver / howto that makes QE available at all resolutions on a ATI 9000. Unfortunately I lack the knowledge for doing more than trying this and that kext and changing this and that id. I would be willing to pay for a solution. Perhaps we won't get 10.000 bucks...but as long as someone feeld attracted... What do you think? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/41235-mobility-radeon-9000-thread/page/5/#findComment-354581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreakyMac Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 Me to, Hell, im only 15 years old Im not smart! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/41235-mobility-radeon-9000-thread/page/5/#findComment-356022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper X Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Is this then end of the road? Am I doomed to no OSX on my Dell D600? *Sniffles* Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/41235-mobility-radeon-9000-thread/page/5/#findComment-383241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elv13 Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 the only way i see is porting DRI from linux to osx, but it will be hard, too hard for me and totaly useless, those laptop are old and the card the most buggy that ATI ever made, they dont even suport it with the official driver under linux, it is the only unsuported card newer than a m6. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/41235-mobility-radeon-9000-thread/page/5/#findComment-383983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeeebs Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 Well I have read all the 6 pages concerning getting this video card work and this just flat out sucks A@@!!!! All be cause i installed MaC on my maching last night version Jas OS X 10.4.8 (8L2127) Intel SSE2 Tiger and I was like HOLY *^&* it worked!!!! It recognized my sounds natively. Im still having trouble with my PCMCIA slot and wireless. But mainly im posting in this thread for this problem: As it is right now when I view the screensaver menu it crashes. (See attatchment.) Is there anything I need to install to be able to get just the screen savers to work? Error.rtf Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/41235-mobility-radeon-9000-thread/page/5/#findComment-384122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickles Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 hmm screensavers should work ok, just very slowly. OS X works ok without QE and hardware OpenGL. Seriously its not all that bad if thats the only bottleneck on your computer. Movies are slightly choppy, theres a bit less eye candy, and I suppose its not exactly great for gaming but beyond that the OS itself works fine. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/41235-mobility-radeon-9000-thread/page/5/#findComment-388973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauℓzurrr. Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 Do you guys think it will be ever possible to get dual screen support on the 9000? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/41235-mobility-radeon-9000-thread/page/5/#findComment-391195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurson Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 i think we can forget this, it seems no luck we have and have to change laptop when we wanna use osx Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/41235-mobility-radeon-9000-thread/page/5/#findComment-394831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elv13 Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 With external adapter yes, but onmi never finisshed is driver so natevely: no Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/41235-mobility-radeon-9000-thread/page/5/#findComment-395381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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