Works, but whats the point?

[guitardood]

I have an Intel Core Duo with 1 gig ram,

 

Everything working but fast video card.

 

Ok, this is not a flame, just help me understand.

 

I have Three TFT screens on Vista.

 

It works, no issues.

 

I understand people might not like windows, sure.

 

 

But why use a mac at all especially OSX86 with out great graphics support?

 

Can't Linux do everything a mac user could?

 

Granted you cant use Logic or Final cut pro on Linux.

 

With out a flame war, (I have OSX86 also)

 

What is the point with out perfect graphics support?

 

It was fun installing a perfect working OSX86 but now that I am done its not as attractive.

 

(Please no mac VS PC war) I just don't get it at all.

 

Is OSX86 just a beta until a dedicated person builds a perfect driver for a video card on hacked mac?

 

Thanks,

[lord_muad_dib]

if you get a "perfect graphic support" as i do, mac os X is great

 

i use it as the main OS(both work and gaming),and i switch to linux or windows when i have to

[guitardood]

Thanks for the reply,

 

I just got a cheap motherboard with AGP not PCI-E

 

Will keep looking.

 

I guess it works with lots of tweaking and that is what I have been doing.

 

To bad it took me 3 full days to get XP, Vista and OSX86 all booting and working good.

[B612]

I agree with lord_muad_dib.

It's a matter of having a "perfect graphic support"; then it's great!

[guitardood]

Thanks,

 

I just need to find a working 2 head AGP video card so I can join the

 

"Perfect club"

 

[spuke]

Well if you still have AGP the possibilities of getting full graphics support is really small. Ok, I was really happy getting QE/CI but with AGP you only have it running at 2x, Mac thinks you are running from PCI or something, you aren't running 8x atleast. 8x or 4x makes no difference, but there is no OpenGL support thus you can't really get the maximum out your OSX86 if you don't get your AGP recognised in the System Profiler instead of PCI.

 

I'm trying now to get AGP and QE/CI working on an Intel Processor but so far I tink none have done it yet, atleast not with the 6000 series of nvidia, mine's a 6600gt. World of Warcraft plays with all settings open but it seems the shaders or some stuff aren't enabled plus I think the performance is reduced 1/4 or half.

 

Only a few ppl have gotten AGP running at 8x together with QE/CI and you sure do have a performance boost, plus everything runs as great, maybe better then on Windows.

Edited January 30, 2007 by spuke

[nagal]

I *think* the point(s) behind OSx86 are this:

 

1. Can I do it

2. Trying out OS X without buying a Mac

3. Wanting to run OS X on my current PC

 

For me, it was never about OS X > XP or > Vista. I wanted to see what OS X was like and get a chance to try some of the DAW software only available on OS X without having to shell out a lot of money for a Mac.

 

Plus it I think it is just way too cool to be running OS X on a "PC"

[macstibs]

The answer for me is that I've installed "almost perfectly" OSX on a machine with a form-factor that Apple doesn't sell - a Sony UX-180p.

 

Show me an Apple umpc and I'll buy it... till then its OSX86 on a UX.

 

What isn't working? The fingerprint scanner, the built-in cameras, and EDGE modem, some audio interfaces, and the biggie - Intel 3945abg wifi. ACPI is busted too so neither sleep nor speedstep work. Even with all this I think OSX is a superior OS to XP. That said, I have dual-boot working so when I need any of that hardware or a windows app, its just a reboot away. I also hacked together BT 'net sharing on my mini so I have wireless support in my apartment.

 

Something about running Frontrow on a ux180 gives me the giggles.

[mykell9999]

everything on my osx86 works, 2 cores, nvidia pcie 6500, onboard audio, onboard lan.

 

At first I used osx86 primarily for editing videos I shot of my son's swim competitions. Imovie and IDvd just plain rocks. I used to use Pinnacle Studio 10.7 on xp. Although Studio has more advanced effects, transitions etc, the videos I make from Imovie and Idvd just looks more polished. Now I only boot my xp hard drive ( yup, too lazy to figure how to dual boot it ) like once every few weeks and only for a few minutes at a time. I use osx86 for everything. Internet, playing Halo, Civ4, spreadsheets..........

 

[zedzed]

The trick is to get the right hardware before you start.

 

Once you have everything running OS X is great.

I personally am fed up with M$.

[cbmkgd]

The 'point' varies from one person to another.

In your case, you can say you've tried it, maybe learn a bit about this alternative, etc.

 

These are just tools, and you use the one which pleases you more, whichever it is, no matter what the fan boys/girls on either sides (osx/win/linux/etc) say. Maybe one day you'll prefer a different tool; then another day, another tool. In the meantime, get a bit used to each, might serve eventually.

[shadoman]

I *think* the point(s) behind OSx86 are this:

 

1. Can I do it

2. Trying out OS X without buying a Mac

3. Wanting to run OS X on my current PC

 

For me, it was never about OS X > XP or > Vista. I wanted to see what OS X was like and get a chance to try some of the DAW software only available on OS X without having to shell out a lot of money for a Mac.

 

Plus it I think it is just way too cool to be running OS X on a "PC"

Nagal, we are cut from the same mould...it was fun just to see if I could do it...and I've been thinking of replacing my Toshiba lappy with a MacBook...this gave me a chance to play around and learn without spending a lot of money....I bought a G3 ($15) and a legal copy of OSX($5) to try learning Mac on, but I couldn't get it to run OSX, no matter what I tried..and now I have it running on an OLD 1.8 P4...YAY !

[c0a0m0]

The point for me is:

 

I can run OSX on a generic PC box with 3 PATA drives inside that I already have music, photo, video and data files on from accumulated years of Mac usage. I couldn't do with a Mac Pro (or at least not without spending more money on external drive enclosures). Mac Pro's have gone to SATA drives. If I can get an add-on PCI ATA card working, I can cram more old hard drives in this box and access that storage as well.

 

My AMD machine is faster runing OSX86 than an old PowerMac (I think). I don't have an old PowerMac.

 

It's not as fast as a dual Xenon but it isn't as expensive as one either.

 

I already have this PC running XP sp2.

 

The BIOS on this Biostar motherboard has a start up boot menu which lets me easily choose at start up which system to boot into. I can switch OS's in a matter of minutes.

 

It has been fun getting OSX86 to work and now it is even better thanks to the brilliant work that others have been willing to share.

 

Apple has been good to me but I have been good to Apple as well these past 20 years.

[Guest Ramm]

I just did it because:

 

1) I can't afford a real mac

2) It was a challenge with computing

3) It's free

Edited March 5, 2007 by Ramm

[zu1u]

I had only seen a some videos of os x untill osx86 so I was curious..

I found it to be a very pleasant experience, as well as a challenge for myself..

It damn well made me want to save up money and buy a real mac..

 

Other than the few technical limitations like no nForce4 SATA and no Audio hardware support and a few other things i'm pretty satisfied with the whole thing.. I now spend 99% of my time on osx86 and i do the same stuff i did when running winders [no restrictions]

 

In a nutshell, what I want to say is 'A big Thank You to the OSx86 community!'

[Jaco]

For me, I was curious about macs, never own one and wanted to know if it will work in my "Windows" world before spending money on Apple hardware to come and found out that that there is somethings I can't do, so that was a nice proof of concept, if it didn't work - I just switched back to Windows - no harm done and I am not out $$$.

 

Well to my surprise, OSX works very well in my world, my company have a mac version of their VPN, and I found the mac versions or alternatives for all the programs I use and I got hook on the OSX interface, so much that I deleted my Windows partition on my laptop a while ago because I feel so confident in my new Mac world.

 

What what has Apple gained out of this - I am probably going to buy Apple Hardware in the near furture. Yes I got my Laptop working but it's not perfect, only runs on one core, have to use external sound, no sleep, etc... and when apple release a new update, we need to go through all the trouble to make it work again but for now it works for me until I got enough money saved - and I am off to Apple Store to go buy myself a new MacBook Pro 17" - if it was not for OSX86 - I would have been stuck in my Vista world and convinced myself that I am running the best OS in the world.

 

Thanks for everybody that made OSX86 possible.

[jesphoto]

I have dv9008nr and was able to install the 10.4.8, but still have some problems.Trying to work it out. I have Vista64 and works very good.I did some video editing in past and was using Sony Vegas Video what I really like.I am editing photos now and found out that even 32bit app works faster in Vista64.

The only reason I installed a Mac OS to see how it works.

To be honest - I do not think that I will be running to the computer store to buy a Mac any time soon.With 64bit Vista app comming out more I will get full power of my laptop.Just experimenting to see if will work.

[BaselineAce]

To me, an unstable Mac OS X beats Windows any day.

[Ferret-Simpson]

MacStibbs - I'm currently looking at using the Fingerprint scanner on my TabletPC - Also an unsupported form factor.

 

It registers as a USB device, labelled "Fingerprint Sensor."

 

Do you get the same, or different? If we can ascertain if it's operating at all, we may be able to hack third party fingerprint software to work with our devices.

 

Fingerprint Sensor:

 Version:	6.21
 Bus Power (mA):	500
 Speed:	Up to 12 Mb/sec
 Product ID:	0x2580
 Vendor ID:	0x08ff

[The Shaun]

Here are my reasons:

 

1. I'm a pretty broke college student. I can't even afford a Mac Mini.

2. I was able to buy these parts CHEAP, and they're 100% compatible.

3. I'm a sucker for something like this.

3. I love Macintosh! I've been a Mac user ever since 1995 when my father bought a Power Mac 6400/200. Since then we've had a multitude of Macs around the house. They're all pretty antiquated now.

[Barretron]

I'm a graphic design student and my school provides font files that are only compatible with macs. It may not be the fastest thing, but it sure beats walking in windy -10 degree weather just to go to my school's computer labs to make tiny adjustments to text.

[jbellanca]

I decided to do OSX86 because I already own a good PC, and wanted to check out Macs now that they've gone Intel to see if I'd like them or not, and to see if I could do everything I would normally do on my PC with them. I've only been live on OSX86 for a few days, but I like what I see so far. If I continue to like OSX and think I can make the switch, my next PC will be a Mac... so for me, it's basically to test/try Mac's out.

[BJMoose]

I'm not a disgruntled Windows user by any stretch of the imagination. It will probably always be my first choice, if for no other reason than the investment I've made in software over the years. But as a Mac Pro owner (so I can have the option to use FCS2) I became intrigued when I heard about this project. After studying in this forum for awhile, it was a matter of accepting the challenge to do something that relatively few others would do. As I mentioned in another thread, there are times now when I don't even realize what box I'm working with when I'm in OSX.

 

I can also honestly say that I've learned more about OSX scripting and the inner workings of the OS through my Hack than I ever would have through my Mac.