[pre-release] macOS Ventura

[D3v1L]

Just now, PoMpIs said:

 

I knew it!!! 😄 ... Does that GPU have Metal 3 in Ventura?

 

 

Because in Monterey with metal 3 it works for me with two or more monitors

Polaris Is not metal 3 capable

[PoMpIs]

13 minutes ago, D3v1L said:

Polaris Is not metal 3 capable

 

That's why I asked, because in my computer with RX6000, since the betas come with Metal 3 support, they cause me quite a few errors with almost all the video playback applications... that will need to be adapted at random, but until the final version comes out, no I have a solution

 

Amazon prime video app sometimes causes screen flickers if I enter the Launchpad... SVP+MPV or IINA Causes "windowServer" to fail sometimes.

 

And in monterey with Metal 2 none of that happens... and I use the same EFI in both systems 🤷‍♂️

Edited August 12, 2022 by PoMpIs

[PoMpIs]

@MacAbe 

 

It's correct...😁  only that almost never happens to me.. 

 

It has only happened to me twice, and only in Beta 5.....

 

But safari I have already detected from the beta one that has quite a few bugs....

 

But I still use it daily 🤣

[miliuco]

2 hours ago, Matgen84 said:

...These 2 Aluminum iMac models was introduced in 2019 (not in 2017 as you wrote, Bro).

Ups, it's true, I wrote 2017 by mistake. Fixed.

 

Edited August 12, 2022 by miliuco

[deeveedee]

@Sherlocks and @Moviemakergr - I formatted a USB3 thumb drive as FAT/MBR and was able to duplicate the USB performance issue that you described.  It does appear to me that the issue is not specific to EFI partition, but rather is specific to the partition format.  In Ventura Beta 5, when running BlackMagic Disk Test on a FAT formatted USB3, the test failed with a write error as shown below.  USB3/FAT performance appeared to be fine in Monterey 12.5.  Note that before the write failure in Ventura, write speed for the USB3/FAT drive was only 10MB/s vs. 18MB/s in Monterey 12.5.

 

Monterey 12.5: BlackMagic Disk Speed Test - USB3 Thumb Drive - FAT/MBR

Spoiler

 

Ventura Beta 5: BlackMagic Disk Speed Test - USB3 Thumb Drive - FAT/MBR

Spoiler

 

 

EDIT: In Ventura Beta 5, I re-ran the same test with the same USB3 / same USB 3.1 port, but changed the USB Thumb Drive format to APFS.  There were no performance issues which further solidifies my belief that there is a problem with the way Ventura Beta is handling FAT formatted partitions.

 

Ventura Beta 5: BlackMagic Disk Speed Test - USB3 Thumb Drive - APFS

Spoiler

 

Edited August 12, 2022 by deeveedee
Added APFS-format test

[Common_Sense]

6 hours ago, D3v1L said:

Sure but... this is not my hackintosh....is my 2019 MacPro7,1 🤣 😉 

Yes, I didn't even consider that some people might have real macs 😊

[miliuco]

Note: my dGPU is RX 6600 or RX 6600 XT.

 

A few days ago @Pavo commented about the AMD GPU handled by AGPM controller, seen as AGPM under the first display device of the dGPU on IORegistryExplorer.

I've noticed that:

• iMac19,1 SMBIOS by default has AGPM controller. In Monterey, it has only one AGPMClient key however, in Ventura, there is a few (usually 12). I don't know why. In both cases the RX 6600 seems to work fine.
  
  
  
  
   
• MacPro7,1 SMBIOS by default doesn't show the AGPM controller although it's possible, as suggested by @Pavoand done by @PoMpIs, to generate an AGMPInjector codeles kext to have it.
   

Edited August 13, 2022 by miliuco

[BarryBar]

Hello everyone,

 

First of all my thanks to you all for this nice thread and the contributions to it. It has been helpful in recognizing problems on my system and also supplied solutions. For instance this terminal command made it possible for me to run another updated EFI folder.

First I wanted to clean install Ventura beta 5 to see whether that would solce the problem with CPU heating up. Because another forum member said to the contrary I have decided to postpone that clean install for now.  To my surprise however today there was no need to run the command because the CPU did not heat up. That is after a few times running the command after startup. Hopefully it could be the case the problem dies out if the schedule kill command is used a couple of times. I will you updated on this.

sudo pmset schedule cancelall

 

Edited August 13, 2022 by BarryBar

[Matgen84]

1 hour ago, miliuco said:

Note: my dGPU is RX 6600 or RX 6600 XT.

 

A few days ago @Pavo commented about the AMD GPU handled by AGPM controller, seen as AGPM under the first display device of the dGPU on IORegistryExplorer.

I've noticed that:

• iMac19,1 SMBIOS by default has AGPM controller. In Monterey, it has only one AGPMClient key however, in Ventura, there is a few (usually 12). I don't know why. In both cases the RX 6600 seems to work fine.
• MacPro7,1 SMBIOS by default doesn't show the AGPM controller although it's possible, as suggested by @Pavoand done by @PoMpIs, to generate an AGMPInjector codeles kext to have it.
   

 

Hi @miliuco If you want to generate an AGPMInjector for SMBIOS MacPro7,1. Download the latest OC-Gen-X (Pavo's app on GitHub), use graphics menu.  

[miliuco]

43 minutes ago, Matgen84 said:

 

Hi @miliuco If you want to generate an AGPMInjector for SMBIOS MacPro7,1. Download the latest OC-Gen-X (Pavo's app on GitHub), use graphics menu.  

Yes, thank you, I have tried it but there are 2 drawbacks:

• OC-Gen-X from @Pavo doesn't have RX 6600, only 6600 XT, this is the one I've chosen but not sure if the properties are exactly the same
• GeekBench 5 scores drop clearly with this kext (maybe related to the above issue).

With AGPMInjector, there is AGPM controller on Monterey as in Ventura.

[Matgen84]

56 minutes ago, miliuco said:

Yes, thank you, I have tried it but there are 2 drawbacks:

• OC-Gen-X from @Pavo doesn't have RX 6600, only 6600 XT, this is the one I've chosen but not sure if the properties are exactly the same
• GeekBench 5 scores drop clearly with this kext (maybe related to the above issue).

With AGPMInjector, there is AGPM controller on Monterey as in Ventura.

 

Sorry if Off-Topic: the differences between RX 6600 and RX 6600 XT: Cores (1792/2048), Base Clock (2044/1968Mhz) and BootClock (2491/2589Mhz) 😊

Edited August 13, 2022 by Matgen84

[Pavo]

2 hours ago, miliuco said:

Yes, thank you, I have tried it but there are 2 drawbacks:

• OC-Gen-X from @Pavo doesn't have RX 6600, only 6600 XT, this is the one I've chosen but not sure if the properties are exactly the same
• GeekBench 5 scores drop clearly with this kext (maybe related to the above issue).

With AGPMInjector, there is AGPM controller on Monterey as in Ventura.

RX 6600 and RX 6000 XT have the same device-id, if it doesn’t you can always generate the injector kext of a RX 6600 XT and manually change the device-id in the Info.plist. All dGPUs have the same settings for properties.

Edited August 13, 2022 by Pavo

[Slice]

16 minutes ago, eSaF said:

I can not remember if it is in this thread where a few said they noticed high temps and max fan speed under Ventura so I thought I'd throw this out there. For those of us going through a higher than usual heat wave, it would be a good idea to give your rig a good clean removing all the dust filters as well and clean. I just done mine and the temps has dropped by 3 - 5 degrees as a result hopefully putting less stress on the CPU and components. Living in a cold climate coupled with an ambient indoors temperature, we tend to forget this necessary task at times.

In this thread some users noticed high CPU load under Ventura. The reason of high temps is not in climate change, the reason  is in bad tuned Ventura.

[trifle]

IF your rig is > 3 years old, and heat may be an issue now, and you are good at cleaning old paste, you may consider re-applying thermal paste to your CPU package base to make a better dissipation happen.

 

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/gaming/resources/how-to-apply-thermal-paste.html

 

[miliuco]

4 hours ago, Pavo said:

RX 6600 and RX 6000 XT have the same device-id, if it doesn’t you can always generate the injector kext of a RX 6600 XT and manually change the device-id in the Info.plist. All dGPUs have the same settings for properties.

Thanks, I was thinking so since I saw the code of AGPM.swift file, although before of that I thought that what OC-Gen-X generated was custom code for each model of AMD card.

[Stefanalmare]

9 hours ago, miliuco said:

Yes, thank you, I have tried it but there are 2 drawbacks:

• OC-Gen-X from @Pavo doesn't have RX 6600, only 6600 XT, this is the one I've chosen but not sure if the properties are exactly the same
• GeekBench 5 scores drop clearly with this kext (maybe related to the above issue).

With AGPMInjector, there is AGPM controller on Monterey as in Ventura.

Assuming you have SMBIOS MacPro7,1 and this is right for your GPU: Vendor1002Device73bf.
Try this:

AGPMInjector.kext.zip

[hiphopboy]

Sorry anyone have the EFI config to using Ventura on ivy bridge desktop at now ?

Edited August 14, 2022 by hiphopboy

[Slice]

39 minutes ago, hiphopboy said:

Sorry anyone have the EFI config to using Ventura on ivy bridge desktop at now ?

If you have AMD Radeon graphics card then no problem. Not HD4000.

[bestal]

37 minutes ago, hiphopboy said:

Üzgünüz, şu anda Ventura'yı Ivy Bridge masaüstünde kullanmak için EFI yapılandırmasına sahip olan var mı?

sorryI tried so hard opencore😕

[Derty]

13 hours ago, Stefanalmare said:

Assuming you have SMBIOS MacPro7,1 and this is right for your GPU: Vendor1002Device73bf.
Try this:

AGPMInjector.kext.zip 2.15 kB · 9 downloads

 

is <key>Vendor1002Device73ff</key> in RX6600 or 6600XT.....

 

73FF is Navi 23 [Radeon RX 6600/6600 XT/6600M]

73BF is Navi 21 [Radeon RX 6800/6800 XT / 6900 XT]

 

[Stefanalmare]

2 hours ago, Slice said:

If you have AMD Radeon graphics card then no problem. Not HD4000.

I I don't think AMD Radeon it will help him too much. He need AVX2 instruction. I tried with RX 570 on Ivy and doesn't work.

"Due to this, machines that lack the AVX2.0 instructions (ie. pre-Haswell CPUs) can no longer use native GPUs in Ventura as-is. The main affected units would be all discontinued Mac Pros, as they can no longer use socketed cards or eGPUs to retain native graphics acceleration." -> https://github.com/dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/issues/998

[Stefanalmare]

44 minutes ago, Derty said:

 

is <key>Vendor1002Device73ff</key> in RX6600 or 6600XT.....

 

73FF is Navi 23 [Radeon RX 6600/6600 XT/6600M]

73BF is Navi 21 [Radeon RX 6800/6800 XT / 6900 XT]

 

Then, change it according to your needs. Just if you don't have AGPM on GPU. X86PlatformPlugin is a must for AGPMInjector.kext to work.

[Slice]

1 hour ago, Stefanalmare said:

I I don't think AMD Radeon it will help him too much. He need AVX2 instruction. I tried with RX 570 on Ivy and doesn't work.

"Due to this, machines that lack the AVX2.0 instructions (ie. pre-Haswell CPUs) can no longer use native GPUs in Ventura as-is. The main affected units would be all discontinued Mac Pros, as they can no longer use socketed cards or eGPUs to retain native graphics acceleration." -> https://github.com/dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/issues/998

AVX2 is not blocking problem

 

[jsl2000]

23 minutes ago, Slice said:

AVX2 is not blocking problem

 

Can anyone confirm that applied these whose Ivy Bridge hackintoshs e.g. Z77 can boot Ventura now ?

[Stefanalmare]

1 hour ago, Slice said:

AVX2 is not blocking problem

 

I don't recall if I tried opcode emulator. I'll try again. Are you sure AMD GPU will have light with opcode on Ivy Ventura?