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I am in no way by any means an expert of installing mac osx on windows machines!

 

My first contact with this community was finding a guide on how to install Leopard 5.5 on an AMD run machine, Which I managed to do for a while and all was well in the world of beginner hackintosh user! :D

 

This lasted for a good few months before I eventually got bored and decided I wanted a new version and used apple updater which then killed my system...

After a fresh re install I was back to 5.5 again in no time.

 

Now onto 2010! is it jus me or is {censored} goin backwards in this scene. I am using the exact same spec computer except I changed my video card from a 9800GTX to an ATI Radeon 4980HD or whatever.

EXACT SAME mother board, 3 SATA hard drives, 1x Dual Layer DVD drive and now I can't get a single damn distro too work?

 

Ive tried iDeneb, iPC, 5.5, 5.6, 5.4. Number FAQ's and guides, Constant searching and all I get is "Still waiting for root device" whenever I try boot from any DVD.

 

My last and only option is just too start from scratch and re build a hackintosh following Lifehackers guide. Which will set me back around 900-1000 Australian Dollars.

 

All I can say is.. {censored} might as well just buy an over priced mac.. :(

Any suggestions on where to go from here guys. Maybe you can convince me too stay in the game..

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I have windows 7! I had my machine dual booting with windows 7 for a while and I reguarly maintained it and it ran beautifully!

 

ever since I got this stupid AMD graphics card no matter how many distros I try and Ive even purchased an original copy of Snow Leopard.. no luck.

 

Can't get any of them too boot?

Should I just build a hackintosh from scratch with parts I know will work and maintain it?

 

Or just shell out for an actual mac which may become obsolete in 3-4 years time?

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I have windows 7! I had my machine dual booting with windows 7 for a while and I reguarly maintained it and it ran beautifully!

 

ever since I got this stupid AMD graphics card no matter how many distros I try and Ive even purchased an original copy of Snow Leopard.. no luck.

 

Can't get any of them too boot?

Should I just build a hackintosh from scratch with parts I know will work and maintain it?

 

Or just shell out for an actual mac which may become obsolete in 3-4 years time?

. . . if you can afford a Mac, buy one - you won't regret it.
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ati cards are under-supported. the new macs use nvidia graphics. i know your frustration, i just spent 4 days getting Snow to work on my HP DV6-1244tx and still no proper graphics with the ati mobility 4650. the ati chip in this notebook not supported or something anyway.

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Thats the thing.. Im a college student so don't really have 2 grand to fork out for a new mac.

Has anyone had any experience building a hackintosh from scratch?

How does it run long term does it reguarly have to be maintained and cause problems.

 

Obviously the price difference is a big factor!

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Thats the thing.. Im a college student so don't really have 2 grand to fork out for a new mac.

Has anyone had any experience building a hackintosh from scratch?

How does it run long term does it reguarly have to be maintained and cause problems.

 

Obviously the price difference is a big factor!

 

Prerequisites for a reliable, hassle free hackintosh:

 

- Don't use a distro. Install from a retail disk and keep your OS as vanilla as possible.

 

- Hardware selection boils down to two components: Motherboard (Gigabyte!) and Gfx (NVidia!).

 

- Choose a well documented popular method of installation (Kakewalk, Lifehacker, myHack).

 

- Prepare to read and learn a lot. It's fun!

 

- If it ain't broken, don't fix it!

 

My latest budget build (190 USD) took me two days to sort things out and get the parts needed, 45min for building, 35 min for installation and updates and another 30 minutes for post installation fixes. Number of kernel panics and freezes: Zero. The money saved will be spent on a nice little MacBook pro. Go figure!

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- Hardware selection boils down to two components: Motherboard (Gigabyte!) and Gfx (NVidia!).

Not really true.

ASUS mobos work very well, and lots of people get their ATI cards working as well.

To the OP, I don't think your problem relates to your video card if you're getting 'waiting for root device'. That normally relates to your HDs not being set to AHCI in BIOS.

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Not really true.

ASUS mobos work very well, and lots of people get their ATI cards working as well.

 

True. And if you want to, you can go with all types and brands of exotic hardware components and have a great time (no irony) figuring out what it takes to get the machine up and running. But to my limited knowledge the Gigabyte/NVidia-hackintosh seems to be the most straightforward approach at present.

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There's nothing exotic about ASUS mobos or ATI graphics cards.

All I'm saying is that you are overly generalising in your statement. ASUS couldn't be simpler. Straight install, and only fakesmc kext being used in E/E with the right bootloader. No sleepenabler, etc. Everything just works.

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Yep, an easy install would be

 

(1) Intel (CPU)

(2) Gigabyte (Motherboard)

(3) NVidia (Video Card) (Dual DVI)

 

BTW I never got my ATI 4830 or 4850 working, but my Nvidia 8600gt, 9800GTX, GTS250,

all worked perfect with "GraphicsEnabler"

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Umm...why don't you just buy a damn nvidia card? Pretty much almost any of them above 8500 GT still kicks ass in Snow Leopard. I gave my neighbor my 8600GTS 512mb two weeks ago and it's perfectly fine. If you are convinced it's your video card, but an nvidia. And honestly, I prefer the AMD CPUs because it's more of a challenge and it feels freakin awesome when you figure something out on your own and then you share it with the community. I think you're just frustrated bro. Just chill off of it for a couple of days and then get back on the horse!!! Don't leave the scene because of a little bad luck dude!!!

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its actually EASIER now than ever before to build a hackintosh. with tiger we needed disto's. when leopard was released all we needed was a few kexts to modify the vanilla dvd. with snow leopard we no longer needed a DVD, all we need is a working mac (real or hackintosh), 3-4 kexts plus chameleon to boot the majority of mobos.

 

if you don't like to troubleshoot... hackintosh is not for you

if you like to use software update... hackintosh is not for you

 

remember hackintoshes are not for the faint hearted, however the benefits may be worth the effort.

 

to quote skidman "If it ain't broken, don't fix it!"

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Uhhhmmm... did you plan, did you do your homework?

 

Gigabyte UD3L + nVidia 8400 + Core 2 Quad @ 3.5 GHz (vanilla 10.6.3) - perfect MacPro substitute... triple boots w/ Ubuntu & XP, too

Gigabyte GM41 + nVidia 8400 + Core 2 Duo @ 2.2 GHz (vanilla 10.6.3) - perfect media center

2 Dell Mini10v's running 10.5.8 - perfect

MSI Wind Desktop (Atom 330 Dual Core) (running vanilla 10.6.0)

 

+ a bucket full of Mac (G4, G3, Core 2 Duo) running 10.4 - 10.6 - at various offices we work at, or at home...

 

The hacks are as stable as the authentic ones...

 

Also own iPods & iPhone...

 

Bottom line for me:

1) Macs are worth it. The hardware is excellent, robust and worth every penny. Software just the same.

2) Hacks are worth it. The hardware (if well chosen) is excellent, robust and worth every penny. Software just the same. You have to be cautious when updating your OS. YMMV.

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I am in no way by any means an expert of installing mac osx on windows machines!

 

My first contact with this community was finding a guide on how to install Leopard 5.5 on an AMD run machine, Which I managed to do for a while and all was well in the world of beginner hackintosh user! :P

 

This lasted for a good few months before I eventually got bored and decided I wanted a new version and used apple updater which then killed my system...

After a fresh re install I was back to 5.5 again in no time.

 

Now onto 2010! is it jus me or is {censored} goin backwards in this scene. I am using the exact same spec computer except I changed my video card from a 9800GTX to an ATI Radeon 4980HD or whatever.

EXACT SAME mother board, 3 SATA hard drives, 1x Dual Layer DVD drive and now I can't get a single damn distro too work?

 

Ive tried iDeneb, iPC, 5.5, 5.6, 5.4. Number FAQ's and guides, Constant searching and all I get is "Still waiting for root device" whenever I try boot from any DVD.

 

My last and only option is just too start from scratch and re build a hackintosh following Lifehackers guide. Which will set me back around 900-1000 Australian Dollars.

 

All I can say is.. {censored} might as well just buy an over priced mac.. :)

Any suggestions on where to go from here guys. Maybe you can convince me too stay in the game..

 

 

Hi, I use a cheap $450 build to run 10.5.8 flawlessly.

 

It features:

 

AMD Phenom Quad Core Processor. 9650.

 

2GB of DDR2 RAM.,at 667MHz./

 

a 750GB SATA HDD

 

and a lovely red-led PowerUp ATX case..

 

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Se...2&CatId=332

 

^ All over there in one package for $450.

 

 

Then for OS X:

 

iDeneb 1.6 Lite

 

Customize:

 

AppleAzaliaAudio

Realtek R1000 Driver

AppleATIATA Driver

Qoopz 9.8 Kernel

Chameleon v2

 

Boot the dvd with busratio=17

 

install with that, and you'll be fine. sleep doesnt work btw.

 

other than that..wow.

it's a very fast PC (:

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Prerequisites for a reliable, hassle free hackintosh:

 

- Don't use a distro. Install from a retail disk and keep your OS as vanilla as possible.

 

- Hardware selection boils down to two components: Motherboard (Gigabyte!) and Gfx (NVidia!).

 

- Choose a well documented popular method of installation (Kakewalk, Lifehacker, myHack).

 

- Prepare to read and learn a lot. It's fun!

 

- If it ain't broken, don't fix it!

 

My latest budget build (190 USD) took me two days to sort things out and get the parts needed, 45min for building, 35 min for installation and updates and another 30 minutes for post installation fixes. Number of kernel panics and freezes: Zero. The money saved will be spent on a nice little MacBook pro. Go figure!

 

Exactly. If you don't enjoy the process of learning and doing, if you don't see the point of a Hack over a Mac, it is simply not for you. 

 

It is not necessarily even about saving money, the hours you spend on researching and working on your Hack, you may already earn the same many times over in billable hours of "real" work.

 

Basically, Core 2 duo or Quad will certainly work. AMD is a little bit harder. Gigabyte boards are good. Asus boards are also good, Nvidia most likely works out of the box, ATi is slightly trickier to get working but also can be done. Get a decent quality power supply and indeed quality components overall. Even if you can build a Hack out of a mix of cheap new parts and a few pre existing parts, I find that using quality parts is another important factor in stability.

 

 

 

install with that, and you'll be fine. sleep doesnt work btw.

 

other than that..wow.

it's a very fast PC (:

 

 

 

 

I have a flawless 10.5.8 running on my GA too. However, only auto sleep doesn't work in 10.6.3 (it did in 10.6.2!) Sleep and Wake, Restart all work. Now, I use PleaseSleep to force it to sleep after timer runs out. Works OK. Probably a problem with 10.6.3. Waiting for 10.6.4 and the next version of Chameleon.

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I'm still baffled why people use Gigabyte boards still. I guess they're the most plentiful brand?

Yep, from your sig I see that you might be an ASUS fan - more power to you.

 

To answer your question...

 

  • they perform very well,
  • overclock wonderfully,
  • have dual BIOS (great if experiments go south)
  • they hackintosh readily and are very compatible, out of the box.
  • are well supported by the community,
  • a lot of development on them continues (example : the BIOS project for Gigabyte boards that eliminates the need for DSDT fixes, and for many/most non-vanilla kexts http://www.insanelymac.com/custom-bios-all...r-without-dsdt/ )
  • and are a nice bargain.

 

I'm guessing ASUS stacks up just as well or better in many areas, though perhaps not on the development of custom BIOS front.

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I feel your pain... for more than a year I've been stuck on this system that has an inevitable "Still waiting for root device" on boot up. Give iPC a shot, that is the only one I've had near usable (Random mouse cursor skipping and restarts when using NTFS drives). Soon (about 4 days) I will have a working Hackintosh though... can't wait to upgrade from this hellhole of an EVGA board (so many issues with it, should've RMAed probably) and go back to my beloved company Gigabyte.

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I feel your pain... for more than a year I've been stuck on this system that has an inevitable "Still waiting for root device" on boot up. Give iPC a shot, that is the only one I've had near usable (Random mouse cursor skipping and restarts when using NTFS drives). Soon (about 4 days) I will have a working Hackintosh though... can't wait to upgrade from this hellhole of an EVGA board (so many issues with it, should've RMAed probably) and go back to my beloved company Gigabyte.

 

 

What are you specs? I might be able to help you out with those issues.

And btw, EVGA={censored}!!! I have never gotten a good board from them!

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People seem to think that osx on a pc is one problem after another, but once the hardware issues are ironed out, it is good and very stable. Getting it there is the hard part. Anything that doesn't work with a modified kext or dsdt can usually be solved with a card. I was amazed at how easy it was to get osx running on Dells, very reliable.

 

I've never worked with Asus or Gigabyte boards, so I'm on the outside looking in. It seems Gigabyte has MUCH more support in the hackintosh community. However Asus seems to have the better board for my needs. I'm still on the fence. I wish I could afford one of each.

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