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Windows Vista Beta: A lot like Mac OS X

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Takuro
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I've seen lots of comparisons between OS X and Vista before, bot those picture point out the most obvious similarities. I've never noticed how much the Finder window looks like Vista Explorer.

 

Well, at the WWDC 2005, Jobs promised that Leopard would be out just before Vista. I can just imagine Gates suddenly haulting release of his OS just to make modifications after he sees Apple's latest concepts.

A Nonny Moose
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Well, at the WWDC 2005, Jobs promised that Leopard would be out just before Vista. I can just imagine Gates suddenly haulting release of his OS just to make modifications after he sees Apple's latest concepts.

 

So Leopard will be released one day BEFORE never?

 

OK, now seriously.

 

I can see the Widget comparison. I can kind of see the home directory comparison. The search one I can see too (although the Vista search function looked uglified).

 

The calendar one is...iffy. While the basic functions of the two are identical (the only major difference is placement of the functions), Vista's calendar has the ugly top bar (the hallmark of any Windows calendar app, Entourage included). If they did steal from iCal, Microsoft stole it and uglified it. It looks more like Microsoft stole from Outlook/Entourage and uglified that calendar program.

sam_the_killer
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if Apple is so eager to release LEOPARD just before VISTA, then shouldn't they consider releasing the Beta copies of their OS for Developers, Hope at WWDC, this might just happen...

By the way, who can trust Steve(most unpredictable) for schedules...

He is the one who can bring smile for someone anxious, but things might just not go his way if his decisions r backfired!!!! :angry: :censored2:

 

But still taking competition into consideration, even Microsoft is not completely clear till date that which components for an OS should be bundled as a Final Release for Vista.

Even Microsoft does not want to stay behind Interface technologies that Apple might just adopt for Leopard.

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Colonel
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Let's compare. Vista and OS X

 

OS X's Aqua : Vista's Aero

OS X's Widgets : Vista's Gadgets

OS X's iCal : Vista's Calendar

OS X's Finder : Vista's Explorer

 

The list could go on and on. See how MS likes to copy Apple?

The ONE TIME when MS didn't copy Apple was probably Microsoft Bob. And we all know how that turned out.

A Nonny Moose
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OS X's iCal : Vista's Calendar

 

I still don't think it's stolen from iCal. I still believe they yanked Outlook/Entourage's calendar portion and uglified it.

 

The list could go on and on. See how MS likes to copy Apple?

The ONE TIME when MS didn't copy Apple was probably Microsoft Bob. And we all know how that turned out.

 

Microsoft does like to copy Apple, but it isn't like Xeroxing (insert "Apple stole from Xerox's PARC" comment here) the Mac OS. We cal also make a good claim that Win Movie Maker is little more than a copy job of iMovie. Or show how WMP is slowly but surely copying iTunes. Or how PowerPoint (which actually came first) is slowly catching up to Keynote (which could itself be considered a copy job!).

 

Of course, I wish MS's Mac BU would copy Access over to the Office: Mac suite, but maybe that copy job is just one too far.

INFNITE
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there's more similarity than what's listed

 

OS X and Vista both uses hardware rendering of individual windows (with shadows), and both have scalable icons. You can set smart folders (using predefined search parameters to create a virtual folder) in both OS X and Vista. There's also the live window preview in taskbar/dock, flip 3D serving the same exact purpose as Expose and the Photo Gallery program in Vista is almost an exact replica of iPhoto.

 

and how about Internet Explorer finally getting tabbed browsing.....

INFNITE
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Vista is alot better looking than OSX. If you have actully gotten the Aero to work its awesome as all hell. A lot better than OSXs crappy Interface. I was going to put OSX on my PC tell I seen the the light and glory of VIsta.

 

hey, that's your opinion. I still think Vista looks like {censored}.

Asoulintime1982
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hey, that's your opinion. I still think Vista looks like {censored}.

 

Well the fact is MAC users are always going to say MAC is better and MS users are always going to say MS is better not matter what. I have learned this the hard way and we just have to live with it.

kernalzero
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I've been using windows since the 3.1 days all the way up to playing with the beta copies of vista. In my opinion apple has been light years ahead of M$ in the user interface department and I look forward to what leopard has to offer. Keep in mind the widgets are from 10.4 which we're all using right now...vista won't be out with it's gadgets until MAYBE sometime in 2007. As far as a calender is concerned...I'm not so sure you can call it copying...a calender is a calender, there's only so many ways you can do it differently. M$ just seems to be playing catchup with Tiger when it releases Vista instead of really threatening Leopard. Just wait for all the bugs that showup when M$ tries to catchup with leopard. They can't make a quality product that quickly without it being all buggy...just watch

ampTK
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Microsoft does like to copy Apple, but it isn't like Xeroxing (insert "Apple stole from Xerox's PARC" comment here) the Mac OS.

 

Apple didn't stole a thing form Xerox. the thing went something like this:

 

Apple started the Macintosh and Lisa projects, (the idea of GUI existed at the time but hadn't been implemented in any consumer product, there existed only research projects about the idea)

Soon after, Jobs and company heard and were amazed by some of the search especially in GUI at Xerox Palo Alto research center. Jobs made a deal with Xerox so in exchange of apple stocks they allowed Apple to examine their labs and take any GUI concepts they like.

 

Apple made their OSs GUI using many concepts developed at Xerox PARC and other made by their own.

OryHara
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Just out of curiousity. If we're defining stealing software concepts as not: buying, trading or borrowing with permission, what exactly has Microsoft stolen from Apple?

 

I think Apple has always been years ahead of Microsoft. Linux had Direct Rendering in X11R6 in 1999, before XP implimented it in 2002. Windows is just a copy of every system out there to some point. Take kerbeos for example. Taken directly from xBSD, then claimed as something 'new', when it had actually been around for a good long while. Now Microsoft is claiming Aero as something new. When Apple has had Quartz Extreme for a few years now. This technology is not new. Its old. And Microsoft marketing this as something new just shows how behind the times they are. I believe SGI had this technology way before Apple.

 

Microsoft will always be playing catchup since they are behind by 5 years.

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