MacTech84 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 I've never heard that before.. So I followed the guide and I everything seems to be working, does this mean I'm running in 32 bit mode? Does it do it automagically? The one thing not working is my sound card, I also tried another guide and had the same problem with the sound card. Is there someplace I can check to see if the hardware is even being detected? The problem is there is no 64 bit kernel support for the 7 series cards, and you will not have Open CL or Grand Central Support. The Bootloader takes care of the detection for you and injects the necessary information for different parts of your computer to be recognized. The Bootloader we are using does have some support for some 7 series cards, hence why yours is probably working, but if you can, upgrade to an 8 series or later card for the best support. Now are you talking about the onboard audio? or do you have a separate Sound card you are trying to use? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/34/#findComment-1362702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
corefile Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 The problem is there is no 64 bit kernel support for the 7 series cards, and you will not have Open CL or Grand Central Support. The Bootloader takes care of the detection for you and injects the necessary information for different parts of your computer to be recognized. The Bootloader we are using does have some support for some 7 series cards, hence why yours is probably working, but if you can, upgrade to an 8 series or later card for the best support. Now are you talking about the onboard audio? or do you have a separate Sound card you are trying to use? Ahh, I'll make a trip to Frys tomorrow morning and pick up a 9800 to replace the 7800. On to the sound card, yes its the onboard sound card, can't get it to work, there is nothing listed in the "output". Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/34/#findComment-1362712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacTech84 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Ahh, I'll make a trip to Frys tomorrow morning and pick up a 9800 to replace the 7800. On to the sound card, yes its the onboard sound card, can't get it to work, there is nothing listed in the "output". Have you run the V3 installer to your primary Hard Drive? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/34/#findComment-1362719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
corefile Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Have you run the V3 installer to your primary Hard Drive? Not sure if its V3, are you talking about EP45UD3P installer from the lifehacker article, then yes. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/34/#findComment-1362739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
corefile Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Not sure if its V3, are you talking about EP45UD3P installer from the lifehacker article, then yes. Ok got it working, wiped everything clean and started from scratch. my Geforce 7800 GT is working, but as u say I'm guess I'm running in 32 bit mode, so will need to install the 9800 tomorrow. If I installed the new card, do I need to do anything to install the new kexts so I will be in 64 bit mode? Also in the install guide says the onboard nic's don't work, but they seem to be working fine for me?? is that something old in the guide? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/34/#findComment-1362758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
corefile Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 ugggggg.....bummer. I get a kernal panick after I did the update to 10.6.2 Could this be because of the video card being a Geforce 7800 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/34/#findComment-1362770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacTech84 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Ok got it working, wiped everything clean and started from scratch. my Geforce 7800 GT is working, but as u say I'm guess I'm running in 32 bit mode, so will need to install the 9800 tomorrow. If I installed the new card, do I need to do anything to install the new kexts so I will be in 64 bit mode? Also in the install guide says the onboard nic's don't work, but they seem to be working fine for me?? is that something old in the guide? The installer being offered through the lifehacker guide is not the most recent, here is the link for V3: http://www.tehdork.com/stellarola/installe...20STELLBLOG.zip As for 32 Bit, you are most likely launching in 64 bit as you would have to manually change it back to 32 bit support for your series 7 card to work properly. ugggggg.....bummer. I get a kernal panick after I did the update to 10.6.2 Could this be because of the video card being a Geforce 7800 The KP you get here is most likely from the other installer you used, the above link is necessary for the update to 10.6.2, but your vid card could also be the problem. Here is what I recommend. You did mention earlier that you were going to go get the 9800, do that, then start from scratch. Build your 10.6 installer on the Flash Drive, and use the V3 installer on it. Then load your system once more on the hard drive you want. Get it installed and running, then run the V3 installer to your Hard Drive. Once that is done update to 10.6.2 and have a Happy Hack-Intosh! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/34/#findComment-1362787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzler555 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Anyone using an external sound card via usb? I find that while I have it connected and firefox/safari open the computer will not fall asleep on its own. If I remove the card or quit firefox/safari the computer goes to sleep fine. The kind of sleep I am referring to is the idle sleep after about 15 minutes (or whatever you set it to be) Thanks... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/34/#findComment-1362841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacWannaBe Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 The problem is there is no 64 bit kernel support for the 7 series cards, and you will not have Open CL or Grand Central Support. The graphics card has nothing to do with Grand Central. OpenCL however, is entirely dependent on it. -Ed Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/34/#findComment-1363075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronElliott Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 I was able to use TextWrangler to modify the Extra\*.*.Boot.plist. I got a Kernal Panic when booting the machine. Reinstalled the Mac OS to the Hard Drive from the original thumb drive. Fortunately I did not need to do an additional restore from the time capsule. Rosetta is actually running in the 64 bit environment. I will see if the software provider can provide a patch in a reasonable time frame. I am concerned that the app does not run due to the boot setup. My question is would it be better to sell the Hackintosh as one unit or break the unit apart and sell the parts? I may need to get rid of the machine due to the application not running. Another option I could possibly just install Windows 7 and remove my "time machine" hard drive till I can get Covenant Eyes working on Snow Leopard. I have an open question in Mac Rumors regarding if Covenant Eyes works on any other new machine with Snow Leopard. I hope that it is a OS issue not the OS installation and hack that I did. The System Logger, is pointing that a folder or file is missing from the cryptic message I get when running. Thank you ** EDIT ** [sat Jan 23, 2010] I had to get version 1.3.8 to work on Snow Leopard The current version will not install on the Hackintosh Snow Leopard. Will have to wait for a future release for the Update Eric Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/34/#findComment-1363135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacWannaBe Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 My question is would it be better to sell the Hackintosh as one unit or break the unit apart and sell the parts? I may need to get rid of the machine due to the application not running. Another option I could possibly just install Windows 7 and remove my "time machine" hard drive till I can get Covenant Eyes working on Snow Leopard. I have an open question in Mac Rumors regarding if Covenant Eyes works on any other new machine with Snow Leopard. I hope that it is a OS issue not the OS installation and hack that I did. The System Logger, is pointing that a folder or file is missing from the cryptic message I get when running. Thank you I really doubt this is a hackintosh issue. I don't know how Covenant Eyes works, but it could be one of several things. 1) Is the app PowerPC vs Intel 2) Does it run as a process (ie, a startup item with no UI) 3) Is it a kernel extension? 32-bit or 64-bit? Have you been able to run SL in 32-bit mode and be stable without this app first? You could also try http://x3watch.com/x3watch.html as an alternative to your application. I've used the mac client on 32-bit SL without issues. -Ed Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/34/#findComment-1363232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacTech84 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 The graphics card has nothing to do with Grand Central. OpenCL however, is entirely dependent on it. -Ed Grand Central allows OS X to fully utilize all cores available in a computer, regardless if the app is aware or written to take advantage of multiple cores. Its the actual combination with Open CL that would also utilize the Graphics card for the best performance and really spreading out the computation from within the computer. My question is would it be better to sell the Hackintosh as one unit or break the unit apart and sell the parts? I may need to get rid of the machine due to the application not running. Another option I could possibly just install Windows 7 and remove my "time machine" hard drive till I can get Covenant Eyes working on Snow Leopard. I have an open question in Mac Rumors regarding if Covenant Eyes works on any other new machine with Snow Leopard. I hope that it is a OS issue not the OS installation and hack that I did. The System Logger, is pointing that a folder or file is missing from the cryptic message I get when running. Thank you Its very possible that the folder Covenant Eyes is looking for has been replaced in 10.6 or moved elsewhere. Unless you are running software that is absolutely hardware specific this would be a problem that many face when updating to a new OS X version, i.e. 10.5 -> 10.6. Have you thought of using another software product? And just curious here... Why do you need to run Covenant Eyes? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/34/#findComment-1363244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacWannaBe Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Grand Central allows OS X to fully utilize all cores available in a computer, regardless if the app is aware or written to take advantage of multiple cores. Its the actual combination with Open CL that would also utilize the Graphics card for the best performance and really spreading out the computation from within the computer. For any program to use OpenCL, it needs to be altered and written to the OpenCL specification. Grand Central is more concerned with leveraging the CPUs multiple cores. Furthermore, to use GrandCentral Dispatch app developers have to write code for it... it is a new set of APIs for developers to easily write code that uses all the available cores. See here: http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2009/...s-x-10-6.ars/13 I don't want to get into a long discussion about this, I'm a SW developer and have looked into all this. Regardless, SBMac's advice is usually spot on. I find that his graphics card knowledge is great and is the reason I will update my graphics card in the future. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/34/#findComment-1363261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacTech84 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 For any program to use OpenCL, it needs to be altered and written to the OpenCL specification. Grand Central is more concerned with leveraging the CPUs multiple cores. Furthermore, to use GrandCentral Dispatch app developers have to write code for it... it is a new set of APIs for developers to easily write code that uses all the available cores. See here: http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2009/...s-x-10-6.ars/13 I don't want to get into a long discussion about this, I'm a SW developer and have looked into all this. Regardless, SBMac's advice is usually spot on. I find that his graphics card knowledge is great and is the reason I will update my graphics card in the future. Well I am never too proud to say I am wrong, or in this case, have been mis-informed. Now I have a better understanding of what GCD is all about so thanks for sharing! Remember, its all about knowledge.... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/34/#findComment-1363350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacWannaBe Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Well I am never too proud to say I am wrong, or in this case, have been mis-informed. Now I have a better understanding of what GCD is all about so thanks for sharing! Remember, its all about knowledge.... Indeed! Now what we need is for FFmpeg to use OpenCL and GCD, then we could rip dvd's in a 10th of the time. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/34/#findComment-1363375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTG78 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Has anyone tried the new Fd bios Gigabyte released rigth before Thanksgiving? I tried it briefly but ended up reverting to Fb. It had the advantage of shortening the boot time by shaving several seconds off the time needed for the AHCI to initialize. However, Mac OS ended up being rather unstable. I can only assume that something changed and the DSDT provieded by Lifehacker and Stell is not completly compatible with whatever changes were made in the bios. And I'm not knowledgeable enough to comb through it and try to figure out what the deal is. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/34/#findComment-1363417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
corefile Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 I'm using the V3 of the stellarola installer, wicked easy thanks! One thing I don't like is the custom "OBEY" graphic instead of the apple logo when its booting up (grey screen). How can I change it back to just the apple? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/34/#findComment-1363440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacTech84 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Has anyone tried the new Fd bios Gigabyte released rigth before Thanksgiving? I tried it briefly but ended up reverting to Fb. It had the advantage of shortening the boot time by shaving several seconds off the time needed for the AHCI to initialize. However, Mac OS ended up being rather unstable. I can only assume that something changed and the DSDT provieded by Lifehacker and Stell is not completly compatible with whatever changes were made in the bios. And I'm not knowledgeable enough to comb through it and try to figure out what the deal is. I had this problem happen with another board I was running 10.5 on, and I do believe its within the DSDT provided by the bootloader. There is a newer version of the chameleon bootloader v2.0r4, but I have been having problems installing it since they have not made an installer as of late. If you can figure out how to properly install that, please let us know... I'm using the V3 of the stellarola installer, wicked easy thanks! One thing I don't like is the custom "OBEY" graphic instead of the apple logo when its booting up (grey screen). How can I change it back to just the apple? Go to the Chameleon Bootloader website, go to their forumrs, then click on the Theme Park. From there you can find out how to change the theme. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/34/#findComment-1363469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
corefile Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 The installer being offered through the lifehacker guide is not the most recent, here is the link for V3: http://www.tehdork.com/stellarola/installe...20STELLBLOG.zip As for 32 Bit, you are most likely launching in 64 bit as you would have to manually change it back to 32 bit support for your series 7 card to work properly. The KP you get here is most likely from the other installer you used, the above link is necessary for the update to 10.6.2, but your vid card could also be the problem. Here is what I recommend. You did mention earlier that you were going to go get the 9800, do that, then start from scratch. Build your 10.6 installer on the Flash Drive, and use the V3 installer on it. Then load your system once more on the hard drive you want. Get it installed and running, then run the V3 installer to your Hard Drive. Once that is done update to 10.6.2 and have a Happy Hack-Intosh! SBMac thanks, I put the new 9800 GT card in, started from scratch and everything is working, just finished updating to 10.6.2 and everything seems good to go. One thing I wanted to know, about the onboard NIC, I saw a post from you earlier about sticking with the onboard NIC, do I still need to install the 64bit R1000 Kext from Bit Shoveler ? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/34/#findComment-1363490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacTech84 Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 SBMac thanks, I put the new 9800 GT card in, started from scratch and everything is working, just finished updating to 10.6.2 and everything seems good to go. One thing I wanted to know, about the onboard NIC, I saw a post from you earlier about sticking with the onboard NIC, do I still need to install the 64bit R1000 Kext from Bit Shoveler ? For the best support, it would be best to install that. It might take 2 installs as with mine, don't know why it didnt' on the first, but they both fully work, and have Bonjour and AFP support. Glad to hear its all going well. Also, once everything is done, I would recommend opening up Disk Utility and repair permissions on the drive, just to make everything Kosher! (I hope someone gets that) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/34/#findComment-1363509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronElliott Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 I really doubt this is a hackintosh issue. I don't know how Covenant Eyes works, but it could be one of several things. 1) Is the app PowerPC vs Intel 2) Does it run as a process (ie, a startup item with no UI) 3) Is it a kernel extension? 32-bit or 64-bit? Have you been able to run SL in 32-bit mode and be stable without this app first? You could also try http://x3watch.com/x3watch.html as an alternative to your application. I've used the mac client on 32-bit SL without issues. -Ed Thank you, You saved me from much grief. I went and installed the x3watch. I will use this until the Covenant Eyes patch is out. To answer your questions: 1. I was not familiar with the CE architecture on the mac. 2. It does have a start up icon, and appears no UI. So yes it appears to be a process. 3. I am not sure if it was 32 or 64. I was trying to eliminate the issue if by chance it was 32-bit. I have CE running on the PC, but it is a tray icon. It boots and logs in before I can start browsing. I still have CE running on the PC that I VNC to. Just not enthused to browse the web through the VNC connection. I booted 32-bit after reading your post tonight. I ran 32-bit mode but the app would not start. I got the X3 app right away. I can only guess what is missing in the application. Much appreciation. Eric Have you thought of using another software product? That is a good question that I was not able to wrap my mind around the thought of another software product. I got used to one thing and thought that was the only answer. And just curious here... Why do you need to run Covenant Eyes? The software helps me be accountable to my friends. Such as the amount of time spent online and websites visited. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/34/#findComment-1363535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoHPhasor Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 Indeed! Now what we need is for FFmpeg to use OpenCL and GCD, then we could rip dvd's in a 10th of the time. Or maybe handbrake? ;-) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/34/#findComment-1363838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
960brick Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 I'm not sure if this was covered, but when I check my temps in Bios , they are at least 10C lower than running osx. Also read somewhere that V2 installer was the coolest in temps ? what changed that made the temps go back up again? also if so where can I find it? only V1 and V3 are available. Thank you guys for all the help so far, specially stellarola Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/34/#findComment-1363893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacTech84 Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 I'm not sure if this was covered, but when I check my temps in Bios , they are at least 10C lower than running osx. Also read somewhere that V2 installer was the coolest in temps ? what changed that made the temps go back up again? also if so where can I find it? only V1 and V3 are available. Thank you guys for all the help so far, specially stellarola The temp is actually a misread within OS X. We have to use something called FakeSMC, which is basically makes our systems register as a Mac. The translation between this software to OS X for such things as the temp read is off slightly, it does not mean your computer is actually running that temp. One user reported 13,250º C and well we all know his computer is not hotter than the sun. For compatibility you would want to use the V3 installer so you can update to 10.6.2 and have a happy Hack-Intosh! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/34/#findComment-1363991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainmanjam Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 Has anyone tried to install TrueCrypt on a hackintosh? Would there be an issue? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/34/#findComment-1364060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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