bean5 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 what kind of cooling is going on here? I've never overclocked anything in my life...and I kinda want to, so if someone can give me a quick step by step to do it on this setup, I'd appreciate it. (By this I mean the ud3p...I have one of those freezer 7 whatever heatsinks...can I still OC?) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/79/#findComment-1528971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAVEC Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 what kind of cooling is going on here? I've never overclocked anything in my life...and I kinda want to, so if someone can give me a quick step by step to do it on this setup, I'd appreciate it. (By this I mean the ud3p...I have one of those freezer 7 whatever heatsinks...can I still OC?) Yes. Depends on the processor but most can be clocked 15-25% higher without a lot of tweaking, keeping most of the settings on autopilot. Mine is a 9550 clocked at 8.5 X 400 FSB = 3.4 GHz. Stock is 8.5 X 333 = 2.83 GHz. The UD3P is one of the best boards for overclocking and the Arctic Freezer 7 Pro should be fine for a 15 - 20% OC. Don't be afraid to experiment. The worst that can happen is that you have to restart, go into the bios and change the settings back. Try googling EP45-UD3P overclock. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/79/#findComment-1529005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bean5 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 no other settings need to be changed? my temps (in osx) are at 55 right now at 370 x 9...is that too high? edit: just tried 400 x 9 (q9650) and it failed to boot or something and reset it back to defaults. What do I have to do? edit2: copied most of the settings from above screen grab and got it to 3.6 (400 x 9). Temps are at 60C. Pretty sure that's too hot. What's going on? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/79/#findComment-1529011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
960brick Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 no other settings need to be changed? my temps (in osx) are at 55 right now at 370 x 9...is that too high? edit: just tried 400 x 9 (q9650) and it failed to boot or something and reset it back to defaults. What do I have to do? edit2: copied most of the settings from above screen grab and got it to 3.6 (400 x 9). Temps are at 60C. Pretty sure that's too hot. What's going on? Be carefull not to keep VCORE,Termination and PLL at "Auto" while increasing fsb or you could fry your chip. Start with normal settings and slowly increase until stable. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/79/#findComment-1529251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mm67 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 no other settings need to be changed? my temps (in osx) are at 55 right now at 370 x 9...is that too high? edit: just tried 400 x 9 (q9650) and it failed to boot or something and reset it back to defaults. What do I have to do? edit2: copied most of the settings from above screen grab and got it to 3.6 (400 x 9). Temps are at 60C. Pretty sure that's too hot. What's going on? Telling just your cpu temperature doesn't really help much, you also need to tell if it's on load or idling and what is ambient temperature. That 60 for example is a fine temperature if you get it for example running Prime95, if it is idle temperature then it is too hot. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/79/#findComment-1529449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bean5 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 my bad, I should have put idle temps. I assumed you guys would know what I was talking about. Not sure what the ambient temp was in the box, but the room was about 75-80F. Now, I've mentioned this many times here, but when in OSX, computer runs 7-10C hotter than in windows. When I have it OCed to 3.33, it runs at about 47-50C idle in osx, 37-43C in win7. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/79/#findComment-1529550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mm67 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 my bad, I should have put idle temps. I assumed you guys would know what I was talking about. Not sure what the ambient temp was in the box, but the room was about 75-80F. Now, I've mentioned this many times here, but when in OSX, computer runs 7-10C hotter than in windows. When I have it OCed to 3.33, it runs at about 47-50C idle in osx, 37-43C in win7. That's probably because of missing powermanagement, that thing is now much easier to do. New prerelease version of Chameleon RC5 can automatically fix your P- and C- states, there is no more need to add them to your dsdt file. Because you have an ICH10R board you will still have to LPC device in dsdt but that's a much easier job. You should find a working example from the first post of Vanilla speedstepping thread. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/79/#findComment-1529994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAVEC Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 That's probably because of missing powermanagement, that thing is now much easier to do. New prerelease version of Chameleon RC5 can automatically fix your P- and C- states, there is no more need to add them to your dsdt file. Because you have an ICH10R board you will still have to LPC device in dsdt but that's a much easier job. You should find a working example from the first post of Vanilla speedstepping thread. I thought that the Cartri Bios took care of the powermangement and speed stepping in bios so that you didn't have to it at the OS level? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/79/#findComment-1531273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mm67 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 I thought that the Cartri Bios took care of the powermangement and speed stepping in bios so that you didn't have to it at the OS level? Yes it does but I don't use it, I suppose there is also many in this thread that don't use it. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/79/#findComment-1531282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkh540 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Sorry for the paraphrase, your post was long.The answer: I don't know. Starting with 10.6.2 The window server fails on startup when connected from DVI > HDMI. No clue why, but Stell and I tested it remotely pretty long one night. Basically the comp is running, I can ssh to it or do screen sharing, but the window server doesn't allow me to interact with the machine. It literally goes haywire and tachs up the CPU. Some have suggested this is monitor specific, as others here use HDMI no problem. Hell, Stella didn't believe til I let him login. (because his works) Need it to work, RIGHT NOW? Hook it up to DVI or VGA. Wish it weren't this way, hell, I'm still stuck on VGA. (Can't even use my HDTV) I have the build GPU btw. ps, Graphics support was greatly improved with v3, run it. Hello CoHPhasor... You helped me out some time ago and now I've run into a new problem, searched and found once again that you seem to be a fountain of expertise. Been running fine with my build on 10.6.2 using DVI to HDMI with my HP w2408h monitor. Before checking here I decided to update to 10.6.4 (fortunately ran CCC first). Sure enough I get a lovely black screen and then nothing. Hooked up a VGA cable and the screen was back but the picture was pretty ugly. Anyway, while it should be easy enough to restore my 10.6.2 version I was wondering if anyone had tried using a DVI - DVI cable with a DVI to male HDMI adapter and if they had had any luck? Thanks! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/79/#findComment-1531306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAVEC Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Yes it does but I don't use it, I suppose there is also many in this thread that don't use it. Good I'm not confused for once. I believe you can have it both ways if you want. The Stella V.3 extra install boots with the Cartri Bios. Just don't type DSDT=cartri at the boot screen when booting from a USB installation. I proposed a poll a page or two back on who is running what. Might be appropriate as we approach 100 pages. I can't figure out how to set it up inside the existing thread. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/79/#findComment-1531498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacWannaBe Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Hello CoHPhasor... You helped me out some time ago and now I've run into a new problem, searched and found once again that you seem to be a fountain of expertise. Been running fine with my build on 10.6.2 using DVI to HDMI with my HP w2408h monitor. Before checking here I decided to update to 10.6.4 (fortunately ran CCC first). Sure enough I get a lovely black screen and then nothing. Hooked up a VGA cable and the screen was back but the picture was pretty ugly. Anyway, while it should be easy enough to restore my 10.6.2 version I was wondering if anyone had tried using a DVI - DVI cable with a DVI to male HDMI adapter and if they had had any luck? Thanks! Are you using Cartri BIOS? I just built a mac for a friend and he ordered a 9800 GT (VGA-DVI-HDMI) and was getting a black screen on everything except VGA even with 10.6.0. I was able to get it working by having chameleon load a video rom for the 8800 GT (which is the same card as the 9800 GT) from a real mac pro. This worked for me. If you are using Cartri (actually, even if you are not) try this: Add this to your plist: <key>GraphicsEnabler</key> <string>yes</string> <key>UseNvidiaROM</key> <string>yes</string> <key>VBIOS</key> <string>yes</string> Get this rom: http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php...t&p=1474197 And I renamed the "macpro8800gt.rom" to "10de_0614.rom" and put it into /Extra Shut off your mac. Plug in only DVI or HDMI or whatever your case is. Reboot. Good luck! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/79/#findComment-1532032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mn07 Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Matt, If you installed the ethernet card in slot 1 (the top one), move it to slot 2 (the bottom). Make sure your video card is in the top PCI Express slot. Your card should be detected and work with the vanilla Apple drivers. This didn't work for me. I have the lifehacker build and my system doesn't recognize that there is any ethernet port. my graphics card is in the top PCI-E and my ethernet card is now in the bottom PCI slot. The light turns green when I plug in a cable, but nothing happens. help? -paul Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/79/#findComment-1532331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTG78 Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 This didn't work for me. I have the lifehacker build and my system doesn't recognize that there is any ethernet port. my graphics card is in the top PCI-E and my ethernet card is now in the bottom PCI slot. The light turns green when I plug in a cable, but nothing happens. help? -paul Is your ethernet card one of the known compatible cards? (In other words, what card are you using?) Also, what version of Chameleon are you using? While I'm not certain, it's possible that it may have an effect on your card getting recognized. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/79/#findComment-1532344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mn07 Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Is your ethernet card one of the known compatible cards? (In other words, what card are you using?) Also, what version of Chameleon are you using? While I'm not certain, it's possible that it may have an effect on your card getting recognized. It is the recommended card from lifehacker, so I assume it is compatible, at least other people have used it and gotten it to work. I am using version 2.0-RC1r Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/79/#findComment-1532811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTG78 Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 It is the recommended card from lifehacker, so I assume it is compatible, at least other people have used it and gotten it to work. I am using version 2.0-RC1r If you're using RC1, I'd suggest trying RC4 - it's the current public release and implements a lot of changes not present in RC1. You can find it at chameleon.osx86.hu. Does the computer not recognize the card at all (i.e. does it not show up in the Network control panel?) One thing to try is remove the card and boot the computer normally, then reinsert it and see if it starts recognizing it. Also, what version of the Bios are you using (and what version motherboard)? For version 1.6 of the motherboard the most recent Bios is FE, which I've been using for a couple of months now. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/79/#findComment-1532829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bean5 Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 anyone know if the gtx 460 is plug and play with the stell setup? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/79/#findComment-1532947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTG78 Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 anyone know if the gtx 460 is plug and play with the stell setup? I think it's more a question of what version of Chameleon is in use. I don't know about the version included in Stell's v3 installer, however, the more recent versions of Chameleon take care of the graphics card injection automatically. I'd suggest checking to see what cards the RC4 release of Chameleon. However, from what I know it can handle most NVidia cards. On the off chance it doesn't work NetKas's PC_EFI may be a viable alternative as it has much the same functionality as Chameleon. (Although, now that I think about it, PC_EFI 10.5 is what's included in the Stell's install.) I'd suggest doing a search of this topic to see if anyone else has tried the card. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/79/#findComment-1532975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mn07 Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 If you're using RC1, I'd suggest trying RC4 - it's the current public release and implements a lot of changes not present in RC1. You can find it at chameleon.osx86.hu. Does the computer not recognize the card at all (i.e. does it not show up in the Network control panel?) One thing to try is remove the card and boot the computer normally, then reinsert it and see if it starts recognizing it. Also, what version of the Bios are you using (and what version motherboard)? For version 1.6 of the motherboard the most recent Bios is FE, which I've been using for a couple of months now. I just updated successfully to RC4, and my computer is running well, except the network card is still not recognized (not even in the system profiler). I tried shutting it off, taking out the NIC, starting up, then shutting it off and putting back in the NIC and that didn't work. My motherboard is rev 1.6, though I don't know what my BIOS is (is that info on the startup screen?). How would I go about updating BIOS, if you think that might be the problem? Also though, I am using the default lifehacker mkext, should I change that to a personalized extensions folder within extras? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/79/#findComment-1534900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAVEC Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 I reinstalled win 7 after flashing to Cartri 0.8 bios (blue screen with Cartri) Too bad the wrong time and date problem didn't go away. Win 7 still boots up with the wrong time from SL as it did with V.3. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/79/#findComment-1535154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTG78 Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 I reinstalled win 7 after flashing to Cartri 0.8 bios (blue screen with Cartri) Too bad the wrong time and date problem didn't go away. Win 7 still boots up with the wrong time from SL as it did with V.3. Have you tried the Apple Time Fix found here? It's a little troublesome to get working properly but it's been working fine for me for months. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/79/#findComment-1535158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAVEC Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Have you tried the Apple Time Fix found here? It's a little troublesome to get working properly but it's been working fine for me for months. Just installed it and it seems to have fixed the problem without a hitch. It's still not he world's cleanest win7 install by any means. Sleep causes problems and hibernate is missing from the menu. Thank you very much. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/79/#findComment-1535213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mm67 Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 This is an easy fix for time problem, text borrowed from Ubuntu documentation: Make Windows use UTC Note: This method was no longer supported on Vindows Vista and Server 2008, but came back with Vista SP2, Windows 7 and Server 2008 R2. To make MS Windows calculate the time from the hardware clock as UTC. Create a file named WindowsTimeFixUTC.reg with the following contents and then double click on it to merge the contents with the registry: Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\TimeZoneInformation] "RealTimeIsUniversal"=dword:00000001 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/79/#findComment-1535235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mn07 Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 I just updated successfully to RC4, and my computer is running well, except the network card is still not recognized (not even in the system profiler). I tried shutting it off, taking out the NIC, starting up, then shutting it off and putting back in the NIC and that didn't work. My motherboard is rev 1.6, though I don't know what my BIOS is (is that info on the startup screen?). How would I go about updating BIOS, if you think that might be the problem? Also though, I am using the default lifehacker mkext, should I change that to a personalized extensions folder within extras? Okay, I decided to update to Stell's v3 of the installer and BOOM, my system profile sees an ethernet card in the PCI card option, but doesn't recognize anything ethernet card when I click the ethernet option, and the network in sys prefs. only still have firewire. Any advice, anyone? Stell's v3 downgraded me to chameleon RC3, but when I updated to RC4 again I lost my graphics card recognition. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/79/#findComment-1535963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketLynx Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 Okay, I decided to update to Stell's v3 of the installer and BOOM, my system profile sees an ethernet card in the PCI card option, but doesn't recognize anything ethernet card when I click the ethernet option, and the network in sys prefs. only still have firewire. Any advice, anyone? Stell's v3 downgraded me to chameleon RC3, but when I updated to RC4 again I lost my graphics card recognition. I have a UD3P v1.6 with Cartri .8 and Stell's V3. I use the Trendnet PCI ethernet card with the 2 onboard ethernet ports turned off. I have only three kexts in my /Extra/Extensions folder they are: fakesmc.kext, LegacyHDA.kext and IOAHCIBlockStorageInjector.kext. Here's my com.apple.Boot.plist: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd"> <plist version="1.0"> <dict> <key>EthernetBuiltIn</key> <string>Yes</string> <key>GraphicsEnabler</key> <string>Yes</string> <key>Graphics Mode</key> <string>1920x1200x32</string> <key>Kernel</key> <string>mach_kernel</string> <key>Kernel Flags</key> <string></string> <key>Timeout</key> <string>5</string> </dict> </plist> I noticed from one of your earlier posts that your ethernet PCI card is the recommended Lifehacker NIC card, maybe you have some damaged stock Apple kexts in your /System/Library/Extensions folder. Note the first key and string in my comm.apple.Boot.plist file. I hope this helps. Charles Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/79/#findComment-1536012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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