bofors Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 A California judge on Tuesday granted Apple's motion to dismiss counterclaims on the part of unauthorized Mac clone maker Psystar, who charged the Mac maker with violating antitrust laws through its vigorous attempts to block third parties from selling rival Mac OS X-based computers. http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/11...nterclaims.html Related stories by Google here: http://news.google.com/?ncl=1272022313&hl=en&topic=t Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/137185-psystars-anti-trust-claim-against-apple-dissed/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicalUser Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 does not surprise me, everything about Psystar is smoke, mirrors and half-truths Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/137185-psystars-anti-trust-claim-against-apple-dissed/#findComment-970916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SticMAC™ Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 YES, I agree! But unlike EFI-X they at least offer after sales support and backup on their products! SticMAC does not surprise me, everything about Psystar is smoke, mirrors and half-truths Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/137185-psystars-anti-trust-claim-against-apple-dissed/#findComment-970935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS197768 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I am just wondering how much the judge got paid by Apple. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/137185-psystars-anti-trust-claim-against-apple-dissed/#findComment-971302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgrimes80 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I am just wondering how much the judge got paid by Apple. I don't think any judge would have ruled against Apple. It's a clear-cut case. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/137185-psystars-anti-trust-claim-against-apple-dissed/#findComment-971454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
justvisiting Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 just a mental exercise: Microsoft sells an OS only,no HW. and is a monopoly as judged by the law Apple sells an OS that ties into specificy hardware. and is NOT a monopoly. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/137185-psystars-anti-trust-claim-against-apple-dissed/#findComment-971649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cavallo Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I am just wondering how much the judge got paid by Apple. Apple had probably paid earlier to protect future situation like this. We don't even know how much Apple still pays rights to protect this situation as federal and world laws ask. I any case also if the result was different, you see it here everyday, as problems, Apple is an hardware project fisrt and then software. Without hardware project nothing better and cheaper than Apple will seem a Mac, don't worry, my friend. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/137185-psystars-anti-trust-claim-against-apple-dissed/#findComment-971656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordee Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Apple wins antitrust fight with Psystar, judge tosses claims Apple isn't a monopoly; judge calls clone maker's arguments 'contradictory' http://www.computerworld.com/action/articl...;intsrc=hm_list However, Apple's case against Psystar is still a go.. set for Nov 2009. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/137185-psystars-anti-trust-claim-against-apple-dissed/#findComment-971893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slacker25 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 HMM i Called this new it would happen just had to post it here seeing as how the fun htread got closed And they do have to pay to get the copywrites to even their stuff ... like every other compnay so i suppose the judge went with Due proccess i mean if everyone wasnt entitled to their company's property this wouldnt be good for anyone Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/137185-psystars-anti-trust-claim-against-apple-dissed/#findComment-971915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreakyMac Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I can tell this Lawsuit Apple v. Psystar is going to last awhile..... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/137185-psystars-anti-trust-claim-against-apple-dissed/#findComment-972409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted November 20, 2008 Author Share Posted November 20, 2008 I am just wondering how much the judge got paid by Apple. "Man, you got dissed..." Proper audio here: => http://www.mtv.com/games/arcade/game/play....GameId=10093431 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/137185-psystars-anti-trust-claim-against-apple-dissed/#findComment-972708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jglavin Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 just a mental exercise: Microsoft sells an OS only,no HW. and is a monopoly as judged by the law Apple sells an OS that ties into specificy hardware. and is NOT a monopoly. I'm not quoting research here, but IIRC the claim was that Microsoft tried to use their domination of the OS market to cripple competitor's software and force users to stay with their products (IIRC it was mostly a web browser issue). The monopoly case really had nothing to do with hardware IMO. It was all a quite messy issue with which I am still not sure I agree or disagree. If it is true that they deliberately wrote software which crippled netscape/whatever in Windows, that is a monopolistic move, but it is also possible that Netscape wasn't written as well as IE (did I just say that?). Apple sells a hardware/software product, one is not really tied to the other, they are a single product together. Apple hardware is perfectly capable of running competitor's software, this is one of the features they tout. So, what exactly do they have a monopoly on? Their own product? Everyone has and always will have the option of shopping elsewhere for hardware and software. I have never seen any reason for Apple to offer any sort of 3rd party hardware support, when people have so, SO many other OS options. Some of which are decent. The whole philosophy of the Mac is that with strict control of the hardware the software experience can be guaranteed. It is the same as a lot of other types of products where the brand provides all aspects of the product, like a car dealer. Does BMW have a monopoly of the car market? Nope, just of BMWs. And would you really want it any other way? The one thing that irks me (and many others) about Apple is their lack of variety in their hardware lineup. But, of course, this is up to them. I understand that. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/137185-psystars-anti-trust-claim-against-apple-dissed/#findComment-974527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Please, not this discussion again.. it's been done to death. Psystar's counter-suit was rejected, they may appeal, that is what this is about, not endless bleh about whether BMW is a monopoly, nor who you personally believe is in the right. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/137185-psystars-anti-trust-claim-against-apple-dissed/#findComment-974567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
snackole Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Hagar is the voice of reason Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/137185-psystars-anti-trust-claim-against-apple-dissed/#findComment-974612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jglavin Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Hah, sorry. I must not read these fora enough. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/137185-psystars-anti-trust-claim-against-apple-dissed/#findComment-976907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Nonny Moose Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 just a mental exercise: Microsoft sells an OS only,no HW. and is a monopoly as judged by the law Apple sells an OS that ties into specificy hardware. and is NOT a monopoly. I had to dig for this most frequent WRONG comment. 7. Apple is a monopoly Boy it does look that way, doesn't it? I mean, the only way to use the Mac OS is to buy a computer from Apple. Well, wait, Apple isn't the only computer company you can buy from. You can buy from Dell, HP, etc. The only issue with that is you have to use Windows. Or Linux. But you can use Linux on a Mac too. Fact is there are lots of choices for your computing usage, and Apple represents just one of many many choices. It also represents one OS out of many many choices. And all of those choices are pretty viable choices. Apple isn't preventing you from exercising your right to choice when it comes to what brand of computer you're using. You have a right to choose to use whatever brand of computer you want. You also have the right to choose whatever OS you want to use, even if those choices are limited by certain factors. Apple isn't forcing you to use their OS or buy their computers. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/137185-psystars-anti-trust-claim-against-apple-dissed/#findComment-978066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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