Dragon Posted January 6, 2007 Author Share Posted January 6, 2007 i think they brought in the p4's when they were developing 10.4.1 and onwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embio Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 I put Darwin 6.0 (jaguar) on a P3 the other day no problem (in fact it was the only thing that would bleeding well install - so much for it being picky about hardware! but thats another story). My understanding is that its the Mac bits that need SSE2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alloutmacstoday Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 if they hand it over to soundless, i would be amazed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Posted January 6, 2007 Author Share Posted January 6, 2007 you're right embio, it may just be the core system that can run on sse. but still... SSE2 was introduced in 2001 and Jaguar was released in 2002. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embio Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 Well I dont think the whole GUI would require SSE2, it runs on G3s and they go back to the Pentium era so it cant be overly heavy on anything too advanced. If its just the SSE3 apps as well iTunes, Rossetta, etc. that I couldnt run I would still want some form of the Mac OS running on a PC. cant exactly afford a new one, hence the sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Posted January 6, 2007 Author Share Posted January 6, 2007 hence the extra 3 pc's i don't have and the MACBOOK yeah i'm sure it's possible to get OS X running at some state on a pc without sse2. we'll just have to figure out how Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embio Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 yeah the macbook is the reason i have no money - ah well :-) and the rest were given to me by my dad - his work had a 'throwing out' session. The G3 is ebay - £22 :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soündless Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 it wouldnt be native, but could we modify sheepshaver to run 10.2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alloutmacstoday Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 sheepshaver? but there are other things like that, emulaters that would work, i forget where it is, but there's a link to a site that has emulators somewhere on insanelymac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 sheepshaver? but there are other things like that, emulaters that would work, i forget where it is, but there's a link to a site that has emulators somewhere on insanelymac You mean PearPC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soündless Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 after scouring limewire, i found 2 things that caught my eye: "cheetah_intel.toast" "marklarpanther.iso" cheetah_intel.toast is taking way too long to download. the speed is about 500bps and the file is 637 mb. it also keeps disconnecting from the host so dont get excited" marklarpanther.iso wont download, its "looking for sources". i doubt they are real, but you never know. if you want to try and find it on limewire, just put in "marklar" or "panther" and it should come up. but i had to wait like 1 minutes before i saw them because limewire slowly connects to each peer. Cheetah is, from what i remember, 10.0 and Panther is 10.3. Now off to google to look for those files. cheeta is 10.0, puma is 10.1, jaguar is 10.2, panther is 10.3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oktar Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 i doubt apple would bind itself to only one x86 manufacturer (intel) by relying on vendor-specific instuctions, when they were keeping builds of marklar. AMD incorporated sse2 in their chips after apple had internally made the decision to go with intel/x86. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 i doubt apple would bind itself to only one x86 manufacturer (intel) by relying on vendor-specific instuctions, when they were keeping builds of marklar. AMD incorporated sse2 in their chips after apple had internally made the decision to go with intel/x86. Apple had been "planning" on going to Intel since Mac OS X 10.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soündless Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 it was a backup plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oktar Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 you think they never considered using amd chips? Since the introduction of the Athlon amd was ahead of intel, until recently intel introduced the Core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 you think they never considered using amd chips? Since the introduction of the Athlon amd was ahead of intel, until recently intel introduced the Core. They actually did use AMD chips in early development kits of 10.2. I read an article about it a while back. I'll see if I can dig it up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embio Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 i doubt apple would bind itself to only one x86 manufacturer (intel) by relying on vendor-specific instuctions, when they were keeping builds of marklar. AMD incorporated sse2 in their chips after apple had internally made the decision to go with intel/x86. an excellent point and if they did use AMD chips in some developer kits - we might be in business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcslayer Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 A lot of things, but nobody point out the needed binary. Hope we could get it soon. That is the real origin for all others things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numberzz Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 To sum it up, it probably would install, but nothing would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embio Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 yeeees... but then we make it work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Posted January 9, 2007 Author Share Posted January 9, 2007 it would take a lot of work (to get it working decently). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embio Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 well I think its worth it, even if it doesnt work we will learn a lot - and thats what this is all about, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@nd®£§§!! Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 hi people i´ve been reading this topic and i want to run OSX86 on my non-SSE2/3 athlon xp i´ve downloaded the myzar 10.4.6 patched DVD and i couldn´t install OS X (SSE2/3) i been looking a way to install OSX86 on my pc so i got the 10.4.6 install disc and i have the 8.0.0 darwin kernel is anyway to integer the darwin kernel to the system??? pd1:i have a doubt, when i downloaded the install dvd (.iso file) it was 4Gb but when i open it whit winrar there was only 8 files that are around 125kb so is it normal??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwhsh8r Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 Nobody has it, except the apple developers in cupertino and I seriously doubt they would agree on handing it over. Tiger on SSE is the simplest solution we have in our hands considering the information, source and files on our hands. So is anybody interested? If not, i'll just shut up and continue dreaming over a 10.2 x86 being *given to us*. Dragon just mug one.... its probably sitting on someones harddrive somewhere.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embio Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 Dragon is right. Lets have a show of hands, who wants to try and get the ball rolling with Tiger on SSE only machines? I'm in, despite my lack of programming knowledge I have testing machines ready and am eager to set to work. @ndres, as im sure you've just read - it isnt possible to install anything on SSE only machines yet... hence calling it an SSE2/SSE3 DVD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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