j@k3 Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 been doing some reading, still left with this question for a complete backup whats better ?? if i get panic cause of some driver, or like i installed vmware fusion and couldnt boot would Time Machine be good ? i saw i have time machine in kalyway's dvd so i can attach my external usb drive which has a backup from time machine i can retore my system from that ? and what about acronis, can i do a clone of the entire drive ? does acronis regonise the osx partition ??? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishduck Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Time Machine is better. First time you use it, it makes a complete backup. After that it only saves the changes from that date to a new folder. So if you lose files you can open time machine, go to the date when the file was still there and hey presto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idividebyzero Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Time machine isnt compressed, so you cant burn it to a DVD since its way too big. But its more convenient and works perfectly fine for restoring, plus you can easily access any file you want through the timemachine backup folder. You still have to reapply the bootloader patch to both I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mebster Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 So basically if you want to burn it onto a DVD use Acronis. Otherwise use Time Machine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idividebyzero Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 acronis and stuff like superduper make a very small image file that can fit on a DVD. I made an acronis backup of Vista and it was only like 3.xgbs.. and Vista is bigger than Leopard. They have compression like zipping all the files. Time Machine backups are too big even for dual layer DVD's (plus Im sure you cant restore a time machine backup from a DVD even if it fit) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mebster Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Thanks for that explanation dude. Just one question/ Which is the best and ideally also explain why: Acronis, SuperDuper or Carbon Copy Cloner (I've never use any)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabe_ Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Thanks for that explanation dude. Just one question/ Which is the best and ideally also explain why: Acronis, SuperDuper or Carbon Copy Cloner (I've never use any)? Different strokes for different folks. It's impossible to say one backup strategy is best for everyone, always. It's going to come down to each person's individual needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
equilibriumuk Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 I'm using Time Machine on my system as it's built in to Leopard and runs in the background. It seems quite good and after the first backup, it's really fast. But making images of drives could also be useful for various things. The main one I can think of is deployment. I think you can restore files quicker and easier using time machine tho. So you can restore 1 or 2 files rather than dumping the whole image across? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j@k3 Posted March 13, 2008 Author Share Posted March 13, 2008 I see, thx for all the replys but what i want to do beside the backup which is best with time machine, is clone the disk which has the OSX now, to a bigger disk, i tried with acronis, it did it sector by sector, but after that the target disk wouldnt boot any idea why ? thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aprodigy Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 did you clone the disk or the partition? seems as if e.g. the bootloader did not get mirrored but since you didn't tell what exactly happened while booting from the new drive, it's quite hard to tell what may be the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ongeloof Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 Is this really a question about a real mac or OSx86? I think we seriously need to clean this forum up regardless! Defiantly use Time Machine. Its legal, build in to Leopard, and well.. its cool Think Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aprodigy Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 I think we seriously need to clean this forum up regardless! i'd love to, can only agree... applied for mod-status, we'll see, hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishduck Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 Is this really a question about a real mac or OSx86? I think we seriously need to clean this forum up regardless! Yes, definately. There seems to be far too many people not noticing the banner Please note: This sub-forum is not for OSx86 questions! If you have an OSx86 Leopard question, you should post your topic Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mebster Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 This one is a little difficult to tell. Using Time Machine is a normal OS X discussion but on a OSx86 may mean it belongs in OSx86 section. So far I don't see any real reason to move it unless some serious OSx86 discussion come in (such as the brief bootloader discussion above). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aprodigy Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 This one is a little difficult to tell. Using Time Machine is a normal OS X discussion but on a OSx86 may mean it belongs in OSx86 section. So far I don't see any real reason to move it unless some serious OSx86 discussion come in (such as the brief bootloader discussion above). well then mebster, how about these: http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=71473 http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=92109 http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=93037 http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=92927 http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=93016 http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=80399 http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=92760 http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=88460 http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=92633 http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=91468 http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=92688 and i didn't even go through the whole first page in this sub-forum... sorry, but you guys in here are definately not doing a good job at all! this is why this forum sucks as it does... your signature alone won't do any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mebster Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 well then mebster, how about these: http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=71473 http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=92109 http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=93037 http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=92927 http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=93016 http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=80399 http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=92760 http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=88460 http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=92633 http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=91468 http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=92688 and i didn't even go through the whole first page in this sub-forum... sorry, but you guys in here are definately not doing a good job at all! this is why this forum sucks as it does... your signature alone won't do any better. lol. I just spent the last 20 mins deleting threads which don't belong here. I've asked that the tiny rules text be made larger but it was ignored. I've made another request with some other suggestions. Let's see if anything happens. Also if nothing happens then by all means make a thread in Forum Information and Feedback. Unfortunately that seems the only way to change thing here. Anyway I'll get on those threads you've pointed out. Thanks. EDIT: All those done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aprodigy Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 thanks mebster, but dare yourself and go a little further http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=91398 http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=91787 http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=91843 http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=91842 http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=91914 http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=92007 http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=91871 still on the first page well, 1. i've wrote the thread 'this sucks...' in forum information and feedback... 2. applied for mod 3. am helping ya out can't do any more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idividebyzero Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 It shouldnt matter if its on a hack or a real mac if its just talking about an OSX feature. Time Machine is the same on both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mebster Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 thanks mebster, but dare yourself and go a little further http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=91398 http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=91787 http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=91843 http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=91842 http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=91914 http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=92007 http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=91871 still on the first page well, 1. i've wrote the thread 'this sucks...' in forum information and feedback... 2. applied for mod 3. am helping ya out can't do any more... All done. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ongeloof Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 We need some people to have mod status of the forum *Cough*Me*Cough* so that it can stay cleaned. As owning a mac, and seeing OSx86 thread in our territory is a bit annoying.... Think Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishduck Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 It shouldnt matter if its on a hack or a real mac if its just talking about an OSX feature. Time Machine is the same on both. It really does. If you have a real Mac then theres no problem with using Time Machine, with Hackintosh the system can crash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aprodigy Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 topic got off topic anyway... oh and btw: i will clean this whole place (10.4/10.5 sub-forums) up - post by post - so we might have a finally a fun and searchable place to go with soon. closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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