xtraa Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 (edited) Yea, watermarking is one thing (i also believe this is 100% BS), but seeding is another. i don't know how many people are in the alt.binaries. I don't know the shipping date of Intel Macs in Russia but err ... that could be a possible timeline. Edited January 24, 2006 by xtraa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slicemaster101 Posted January 24, 2006 Author Share Posted January 24, 2006 this sounds like a whine thread... so i'll whine right along with ya'll. I agree it's strange it's not out yet. This tread isn’t a whine thread; it is simply a thread discussing the peculiarity of this situation with 10.4.4 not being leaked yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slicemaster101 Posted January 24, 2006 Author Share Posted January 24, 2006 I..have..to...be...careful not to use wrong words here. It is that simple: As long as there is no 10.4.4, there will be no Vista for Mactel. Simply because the people that could handle EFI don't want an IntelMac. But I think everybody knows that. Some are maybe just afaid about what could happen, if they would be caught seeding it. Just a few even knows what a bouncer or proxy is. We have to resepect that, not everybody is 'scene' if you know what I mean. So lets just give a litte time for all, to disover their new macs. Also think about seeders and leechers, there are always less people on the important side. The likelihood of apple coming after anyone is no more likely then it was when people were leaking and distributing the previous versions of OS X x86. Therefore the argument seems irrational to me, although I suppose the fear of getting caught could intimate the inexperienced among us, although it is not the inexperienced that are leaking and cracking these releases so that also puts that theory into the realm of… lets say, somewhere in-between not likely to simple impossibility. Slice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtraa Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 (edited) The likelihood of apple coming after anyone is no more likely then it was when people were leaking and distributing the previous versions of OS X x86. Therefore the argument seems irrational to me, although I suppose the fear of getting caught could intimate the inexperienced among us, although it is not the inexperienced that are leaking and cracking these releases so that also puts that theory into the realm of… lets say, somewhere in-between not likely to simple impossibility. Slice The difference is that 10.4.4 is no developer version and that means = no developer connection. And the developer connection was the only source in the past. also there are only a few people, that I would call "experienced" plus "active" and I don't know one of them with an IntelMac. Edited January 24, 2006 by xtraa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesley Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 Cost of hardware bogging down, maybe? IIRC, iLife '06, as soon as it hit the shelves, went straight from the shelves to the torrents in, what, 2 days? Some people bought the thing, $79 a pop, and just leased it into the underworld. Now we have iMac, and they go for $1299 minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiberia Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 yeah, fact is Apple haven't sold that many yet: http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0601intelearly.html so its only hardcore Macaddicts who have no interest in getting it to run on PCs. When more get sold the disk will get put out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkblt Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 i'm sure the "right" people already have the DVD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basdala Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 Hey, people: 10.4.4 is available as an "update" at the Mac OS X software link in the "apple button" on your Mac OS. But, man, I couldn't run it. It won't run in a 10.4.3 x86 installation, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyrie1965 Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 Yea, watermarking is one thing (i also believe this is 100% BS), but seeding is another. i don't know how many people are in the alt.binaries. I don't know the shipping date of Intel Macs in Russia but err ... that could be a possible timeline. In Russia we will get it on April. There are no problems to share DVD on torrents . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesley Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Hey, people:10.4.4 is available as an "update" at the Mac OS X software link in the "apple button" on your Mac OS. But, man, I couldn't run it. It won't run in a 10.4.3 x86 installation, I think. That's only for PPC, non-Developer version of Tiger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathChill Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Well, the right people definitely have it at this point, but there's still A LOT of work to be done on it. Stuff like getting the EFI ROM contents is important, and to get that we need to accomplish other stuff that's a bit hard at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 So the important people, like Maxxuss, have the DVD? Is that what you're saying DeathChill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiberia Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 funny, I don't get anything when I hit the software update button, just "your copy of OSX is up to date". whats up with that?? blocking? or do we have the latest versions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjtd Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Maybe they (apple) ship the iMacs with a "burn in hell" letter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtraa Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Well, the right people definitely have it at this point, but there's still A LOT of work to be done on it. Stuff like getting the EFI ROM contents is important, and to get that we need to accomplish other stuff that's a bit hard at the moment. If thats the case I am fine with it It is better to let them work on a solution first, before we have 10 releases flying around in the wild A little info would be nice of course, but otherwise maybe they just want to surprise us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaselineAce Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Maybe they (apple) ship the iMacs with a "burn in hell" letter. That wouldn't be much of a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basdala Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 I also tryed to "update" my 10.4.3, and I got a "your version is up-to-date" (but I'm pretty sure it isn't). Well, I thought 10.4.4 update was only for PPC. I suppose the new x86 macs come with 10.4.4. BTW, I don't know if it is possible to install 10.4.4 on a regular x86 PC. I have a friend that works in an Apple Store in Barcelona, so I will try to get one (mwahahaha). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
errandwolfe Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 I also tryed to "update" my 10.4.3, and I got a "your version is up-to-date" (but I'm pretty sure it isn't). Well, I thought 10.4.4 update was only for PPC. I suppose the new x86 macs come with 10.4.4. BTW, I don't know if it is possible to install 10.4.4 on a regular x86 PC. I have a friend that works in an Apple Store in Barcelona, so I will try to get one (mwahahaha). Basdala, You are correct, the new machines ship with 10.4.4. There is no downloadable update from Apple to bring you up to 10.4.4 for Intel. On another quick note, I notice a lot of people here mention friends working in Apple Stores. You know I don't know what the staffing levels are at these stores, but if you think folks from Apple don't read these forums, you are most likely dead wrong. Singling out a specific store is just going to get the higher ups at Apple really watching those stores. Please for your friends' job safety, do not mention the stores they work in. Just my 2 cents... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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