donniedarko Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 i want it for skype coz it's work well on intel imac Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7373-new-build-osx86-1044/page/2/#findComment-46648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajv Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 I've got a macbook pro on order, but I also have an amd64 rig for gaming. It cost me about $600 in parts (amd64 3000, nforce4 ultra mobo, 6600gt, 76gig raptor, audigy2, 1gig ram), and I want to run os x on it so I can still do real work when my wife borrows the lappy. An Imac is too expensive and not upgradable enough for a gaming rig. You can't just buy a new video card, add a second hard drive for media storage, or get the latest amd cpu, not to mention that getting xp to run on an intel imac looks to be a bigger challenge than getting os x to run on an beige box. I added a pci nic, a usb audio device I had in the closet, and an old 40gig pata drive to run os x. As soon as we get a pcie video card working with it, I'll be set. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7373-new-build-osx86-1044/page/2/#findComment-46660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilos Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 ajv will you make a copy from restore cd when you get a new macbook pro? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7373-new-build-osx86-1044/page/2/#findComment-46675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajv Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I can't imagine that 10.4.4 won't up on the torrent sites before then. It's not scheduled to arrive for another month! If it's not available by then, I'm sure it'll pop up shortly thereafter some way or other. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7373-new-build-osx86-1044/page/2/#findComment-46680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdavy2002 Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 Substitute commas for the slashes and maybe you would understand it a little more. Basically he is saying that it is not available on any of the following: irc newgroups private-torrent-trackers ftp-scene fxp-scene mac-hack-forums I got that, but which IRC? Me Hanging day and night on torrent sites to see this 10.4.4 pop up. When When When????? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7373-new-build-osx86-1044/page/2/#findComment-46708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbz Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 To date the only protection that has been included on x86 releases of Tiger was the TPM chip check, which was relitively easy to by-pass. Now with the reliance on EFI rather than BIOS there is a significant hardware limitation preventing Tiger from running on most hardware. People are starting to tinker with ways around it, but as yet its proving quit a challenge. Wrong. In truth, we are simply waiting to test some things on the new version. Much of the theory is there: We have been able to boot EFI from bios through a burnt CD and that really is a major leap. Now, once 10.4.4 comes out, it will be tried and tested and reliances on EFI will be indentified, first. Then, these reliances will be taken care of. How? I agree that this will be harder, but once we know what to fix, how to fix it will become much easier. At the moment, there will probably be the imac ROM involved somewhere. This will probably mean that we will boot from bios to efi and then the ROM, untill we get into OS X. It really should be cracked quickly once the torrent is out in the open. I expect while this is all being cared for, many of the already-invented hacks, such as anti-TPM and SSE3 --> SSE2, will simply be adapted. I expect to be running 10.4.4 in a month's time. My point: I highly doubt that 10.4.3 will be the last hacked release of mac os x x86. Where there's a will there's a way. And where there are coders willing to get osx86 '.4 running on their whitebox PCs, there will be a way to do so in the near future. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7373-new-build-osx86-1044/page/2/#findComment-46719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdavy2002 Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 Wrong. In truth, we are simply waiting to test some things on the new version.Much of the theory is there: We have been able to boot EFI from bios through a burnt CD and that really is a major leap. Now, once 10.4.4 comes out, it will be tried and tested and reliances on EFI will be indentified, first. Then, these reliances will be taken care of. How? I agree that this will be harder, but once we know what to fix, how to fix it will become much easier. At the moment, there will probably be the imac ROM involved somewhere. This will probably mean that we will boot from bios to efi and then the ROM, untill we get into OS X. It really should be cracked quickly once the torrent is out in the open. I expect while this is all being cared for, many of the already-invented hacks, such as anti-TPM and SSE3 --> SSE2, will simply be adapted. I expect to be running 10.4.4 in a month's time. My point: I highly doubt that 10.4.3 will be the last hacked release of mac os x x86. Where there's a will there's a way. And where there are coders willing to get osx86 '.4 running on their whitebox PCs, there will be a way to do so in the near future. This news makes me excited. I am sure we will be able to crack it, even if means a modified bios. ( just an example). someone will crack it and by the end of this year. Osx86 would be as comman as xp on our pc. The good news is that we will be able to have a faster pc, and more reliable than XP. We can do all the things we wanted to do in Mac. it's just a matter of time, we all have come a long way, we cannot give it up when the challange sounds right. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7373-new-build-osx86-1044/page/2/#findComment-46921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slip Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 What happens to the owners of the DEV box. Didn't they pay 3G or something to get the kit. Do they get anything after 10.4.3. Would they risk a release not tagged with the EFM ? Why bother. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7373-new-build-osx86-1044/page/2/#findComment-47079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave A Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 What happens to the owners of the DEV box. Didn't they pay 3G or something to get the kit. Do they get anything after 10.4.3. Would they risk a release not tagged with the EFM ? Why bother. They can trade it in for a new imac they get to keep, or give it back to apple after the lease expires. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7373-new-build-osx86-1044/page/2/#findComment-47092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
numberonekiwi Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 This is an Email from apple (or part of it ) As you may already be aware, we recently announced the new iMac with Intel Core Duo Processor. In lieu of this announcement, the Developer Transition Kit is no longer available. As you placed an order for the DTK prior to the announcement of the new iMac, we would like to offer you the opportunity to pay for your current pending order and, instead of receiving the Developer Transition Kit, we will send you the new 17” iMac. The system configuration of the iMac provided in this offer is: 17” iMac 1.83Ghz Intel Core Duo/160GB Serial ATA drive/SuperDrive (DVD+R DL/DVD+RW/CD-RW)/512MB 667 DDR2 SDRAM. Is this worth the $1499 asked by apple - but it is still $1499 I dont have Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7373-new-build-osx86-1044/page/2/#findComment-47236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiberia Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 apparently, the way the iMac works is this: the EFI is contained on a chip. On booting, this chip is copied onto the drive so that OSX can run. The Chip data contains a SERIAL NUMBER which is tied to your machine, so anyone posting the data will be easily traced by Apple. So not only are hackers going to have to find a way of loading this chip data, they're also going to have to find out how the serials are generated. http://nak.journalspace.com/?cmd=displayco...407&entryid=407 (i think thats right, its a bit too much for my tiny little mind) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7373-new-build-osx86-1044/page/2/#findComment-47267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathChill Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 This is an Email from apple (or part of it ) As you may already be aware, we recently announced the new iMac with Intel Core Duo Processor. In lieu of this announcement, the Developer Transition Kit is no longer available. As you placed an order for the DTK prior to the announcement of the new iMac, we would like to offer you the opportunity to pay for your current pending order and, instead of receiving the Developer Transition Kit, we will send you the new 17” iMac. The system configuration of the iMac provided in this offer is: 17” iMac 1.83Ghz Intel Core Duo/160GB Serial ATA drive/SuperDrive (DVD+R DL/DVD+RW/CD-RW)/512MB 667 DDR2 SDRAM. Is this worth the $1499 asked by apple - but it is still $1499 I dont have I believe you still pay $999 for it. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7373-new-build-osx86-1044/page/2/#findComment-47321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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