Gdfath3r Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 In moving the frameworks you say 'don't replace any' - I think I know what you mean but how exactly was that done? Finder or Terminal? More explicit instructions for that step would be greatly appreciated. -Thanks Acctually, what happened there, .....he didnt do nothing there...wanted to add files, but when was asked to confirm if is replaceing files or not, he simply choose " dont replace any. After that, he confirmed this fact, but also confirmed that can be replaced OpenGl.Frameworks except some files.....I going to look back what he said preciselly.... Edit:OpenGL executable is causing the problem...so that file can be omited from replaceing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffsta Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Hello everyone, does anyone know if the trick for getting the X1000 series cards to work with QE and CI using the 10.4.4 framework files works for the X800 series of ATI cards as well? I have tried editing the plist files for the Radeon9700.kext file and afterwards actually loading the .kext file. The kext loads, but then system profile still tells me that I do not have CI or QE so I am just wondering what may be going on underneath. Thanks to All! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munky Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 well i know for a fact that graphics kexts need to be loaded by the OS on bootup. if you load them manually with kextload they might load successfully, but they'll not become active. afaik that kext will only work for X1000-series cards. if the radeon9700 one seems to load, what happens when you reboot? does it load the kext? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffsta Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 well i know for a fact that graphics kexts need to be loaded by the OS on bootup. if you load them manually with kextload they might load successfully, but they'll not become active. afaik that kext will only work for X1000-series cards. if the radeon9700 one seems to load, what happens when you reboot? does it load the kext? I appreciate the help Munky. As far as loading the Radeon9700.kext, OSX does not load it automatically upon startup and I ended up manually loading it myself after I had booted into the desktop. I can try to load it upon startup, but I am unsure as to what file I would need to edit in order to add that device driver to the startup list. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munky Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 it should load automatically provided you put the correct device and vendor ID string into the relevant plist. for your particular setup im not sure which files would need edited, or if you have already done that. if the pci match string is in there and its still not loading, then you're out of luck, i think. sorry to be the bearer of bad news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altered7th Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Acctually, what happened there, .....he didnt do nothing there...wanted to add files, but when was asked to confirm if is replaceing files or not, he simply choose " dont replace any. After that, he confirmed this fact, but also confirmed that can be replaced OpenGl.Frameworks except some files.....I going to look back what he said preciselly.... Edit:OpenGL executable is causing the problem...so that file can be omited from replaceing So, I need all files from the 10.4.4 AGL.framework and all files from the 10.4.4 OpenGL.framework EXCEPT the OpenGL executable? Is that right? I remember seeing something on the win2osx forum about adding one of the frameworks before the other. I can't find that thread over there now after their server move. I wouldn't guess that the order would make a difference but who knows. Does anyone know if that is totally incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tek_No Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 The topic I remember was NOT talking about the ORDER of copying these two. Some of us (including me) discovered that we could not get on the desktop anymore (loginwindow) after having copied "everything" of these two. If I remember correctly someone found out that it's just the OpenGL executable that is responsible for this (so not the rest of the frameworks)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyrie1965 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 I have just installed Mac OS X on my box (Pentium D 3,8 (Dual-core 2,8 overclocked), ASUS P5LD2-V (945g), 1 Gb RAM, 200 SATA HDD, ATI X1600XT 256 Mb DDR3 (GeCube)). I am amazed. It is ulta fast, ultra hot speed. Boot in 12 seconds. QE and CI works (10.4.4 ATI kexts and GL frameworks). I have compared video encoding (QT 7.0.4 Pro), my PM G5 Dual 2.0 (at work) need go to a trash :pirate2:. My cheap 3COM network card and VIA FireWire works well out of the box. HOOAH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tek_No Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Hey Kyrie1965, what video resolution are you working in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyrie1965 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 1280x1024 (via boot plist). Can not change resolution via System Preferences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munky Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 for anyone having problems installing the 10.4.4 stuff, here's what i did: grab the 10.4.4 extensions and frameworks (i got these as separate zips) unzip them both copy everything with X1000 in it from extensions to your /System/Library/Extensions now go to /System/Library/Frameworks (ie the installed, 10.4.3 version), and drag OpenGL.Framework and AGL.Framework to the desktop (to backup the old ones, just in case). (I cant remember if this moves them or copies them. if it copies them, then drag them from /System/Library/Frameworks to the trash, too. authenticate as necessary). now look inside the 10.4.3 OpenGL.framework on the desktop, locate the executable and copy it to the unzipped 10.4.4 version (this replaces the 10.4.4 executable with the 10.4.3 one) now drag the two 10.4.4 unzipped versions to /System/Library/Frameworks in terminal do: sudo diskutil repairPermissions / reboot. should work (hopefully). on another note, i see that the darwin bootloader detects my X1800XL as a 16Mb card. i'm guessing this is why it wont support any decently high resolutions. upsetting, cos i used to get 2048x1536x32 on my geforce 6800 (tho unaccelerated of course), and 1280x1024 is the max i can get now. anyone know if there's any way to get more? like force darwin to detect the card properly, or even tampering with the card's firmware? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMessiah Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 I have ati x1400 in my laptop, and the kext loads successfully but further nothing happens. NO resolution change and no Quartz and CI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puescho Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 i tried to follow all ATI theads and i come to the conclusion, that my X1600 isn't getting loaded at boot. i can load the kext manually successfully... everything works, exept QE and CI... could even pimp up my res to 1600x1200. 10.4.3 8f1111 Jas 4.2 Base System 10.4.4 ATI Drivers (EDIT:10.4.4 not 14.4.4 -g-) Pentium D 2.8GHz 2MB L2 Intel D945PSN Mainboard 2x 1GB DDR2 SDRAM (667 MHz) Sapphire X1600 PCIe 256MB SAMSUNG HD160JJ 160GB HDD (S-ATA) LITE-ON DVDRW SHW-1635S (IDE) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microhaxo Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 Hmm i got a problem... I did this: All you need to do is add the extra AGL.Framework and OpenGL.Framework files (don't replace any) from the 10.4.4 framework And add all the RadeonX1000 files into the Extensions folder from the 10.4.4 Extensions Note: Both of these are on rapid share - check the osx86project thread for links. repair the permissions (I did this through disk utility) And now it boots and shows the login screen and all and when i login it goes to console and asks me to login again, i do and it says Welcome to Darwin how in the hell do i fix this ... My GFX card is X800xl 10.4.3 sse3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munky Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 microhaxo: that card is not supported by these kexts (unless you mean X1800xl..) puescho: did you follow my steps (above)?? it should work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puescho Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 i followed your steps... as i said... i can manually load the kext... but system profiler and kextstat both say no kext loaded. to get it back to speech.... which kext has to be modified? i modified the ATIRadeonX1000.kext... added my model... system profiler says 0x71c2... i added 0x71c21002 8bit(first 4bit model last 4 bit vendor) or am i wrong in my knowledge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microhaxo Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Munky, lol i misread x1800 as x800 jumped the gun, should i just wait for a 10.4.4 release or try to fix this one? i cannot use a macdrive software as it does not detect the drive as OSX formatted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gdfath3r Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 wow..what happened: Results 101.61 System Info Xbench Version 1.2 System Version 10.4.3 (8F1111g) Physical RAM 1024 MB Model ADP2,1 Drive Type Maxtor 6L080L0 CPU Test 79.08 GCD Loop 137.21 7.23 Mops/sec Floating Point Basic 82.87 1.97 Gflop/sec vecLib FFT 50.62 1.67 Gflop/sec Floating Point Library 87.17 15.18 Mops/sec Thread Test 85.49 Computation 61.56 1.25 Mops/sec, 4 threads Lock Contention 139.87 6.02 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads Memory Test 145.70 System 141.74 Allocate 182.46 670.05 Kalloc/sec Fill 125.02 6078.57 MB/sec Copy 130.12 2687.53 MB/sec Stream 149.87 Copy 145.51 3005.52 MB/sec Scale 143.22 2958.81 MB/sec Add 155.99 3322.99 MB/sec Triad 155.67 3330.13 MB/sec Quartz Graphics Test 100.61 Line 84.26 5.61 Klines/sec [50% alpha] Rectangle 111.25 33.21 Krects/sec [50% alpha] Circle 104.96 8.56 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha] Bezier 112.89 2.85 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha] Text 95.66 5.98 Kchars/sec OpenGL Graphics Test 2313.24 Spinning Squares 2313.24 2.93 Kframes/sec User Interface Test 138.01 Elements 138.01 633.38 refresh/sec Disk Test 49.83 Sequential 91.93 Uncached Write 78.24 48.04 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Write 77.92 44.09 MB/sec [256K blocks] Uncached Read 134.65 39.41 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Read 95.50 48.00 MB/sec [256K blocks] Random 34.18 Uncached Write 13.11 1.39 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Write 53.52 17.13 MB/sec [256K blocks] Uncached Read 79.65 0.56 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Read 105.05 19.49 MB/sec [256K blocks] just used OpenGL.framework from 10.4.4 without OpenGl executable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireshark Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 but your scxreensaver doesnt work anymore, try it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gdfath3r Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 but your scxreensaver doesnt work anymore, try it Yepp, is true. Anything else will not work?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puescho Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 can sb. post his WORKING Info.plist as a file, as i assume, that mine is rendered broke before i even put my fingers on it. i'd appreciate it thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireshark Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 in xbench does your spinning squares a white boix? usually if it "doesnt" work it wil be black or soemthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puescho Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 sth. about my system worries me Quartz Graphics Test 76.52 Line 94.65 6.30 Klines/sec [50% alpha] Rectangle 73.99 22.09 Krects/sec [50% alpha] Circle 73.58 6.00 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha] Bezier 89.32 2.25 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha] Text 60.69 3.80 Kchars/sec without CI or QE... ist that normal? EDIT: OpenGL Graphics Test 1578.54 Spinning Squares 1578.54 2.00 Kframes/sec (white box) Total Score 91.28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puescho Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 forget my last post finally i got QE and CI up and running... just did the "copy over" procedure again... manually... now it works. + adding my DEVICEID to Info.plist every now and then a block artifact. bu nothing to mention jet another Sapphire X1600 PCIe running res not changable but running at 1600x1200 via boot.plist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gdfath3r Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 can sb. post his WORKING Info.plist as a file, as i assume, that mine is rendered broke before i even put my fingers on it.i'd appreciate it thx Which one you need?....10.4.3 version of ATIRadeon9700.kext or the newer one? Cuz both are the same version, I think.....so can get it fron install DVD with the help of "pacifist" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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