WindowsOnIMac Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 How to install Windows as the ONLY OS on on your Apple: Requirements: 1) Intel-Based Macintosh 2) Latest Firmware updates 3) OS X must be installed FIRST, since it will be needed to burn the Macintosh Drivers Disk for Windows 4) Boot Camp must be installed, in order to burn the Drivers Disk. Once it is .0. burned, Boot Camp, along with OS X, will no longer be required. Useful knowledge: 1) Following this procedure will break NONE of your Apple warranties or EULA. 2) Following this procedure will NOT break your Windows EULA. Microsoft doesn't care what kind of OEM-manufactured computer you install Windows on. The Apple Intel PCs are just First, you must ask yourself a few questions: 1) Do you REALLY want to do this? OS X will no longer be on the HD after this procedure is followed, so carefully consider the consequences: a) You will be unable to install further Apple Firmware updates as long as Windows is installed this way. You will be UNABLE to use any OS X apps on your Apple Intel PC after you follow this procedure, until OS X is completely reinstalled. 2) Are you the kind of person who just can't stand OS X, but love your Apple Intel PC? If so, this is for you. Let's get started. 1) First, you want to ensure that you will be able to use the devices in your Apple once Windows is installed. This is why you need the Macintosh Drivers Disk for Windows burned. Once it's burned, you can begin in earnest. I do advise you to use BC 1.4 to burn this disk, since it will have the latest drivers. 2) Next, put your Windows installation disk in the drive. Do NOT start this using Boot Camp!!! 3) Now, reboot your Apple, and hold down the Option key (if an Apple keyboard) or the Alt key (if non-Apple) as soon as the "silver screen" is displayed. Alternately, you may use your Apple IR controller and hold down the "Menu" button. Hold it down until the bootable devices are displayed, and choose the device containing the Windows install media. 4) You will have to press a key as soon as the screen turns dark (when a message is displayed asking you to press a key to boot from CD or DVD.) You will have only about 5 seconds to do this, or OS X will boot instead 5) Once in the Windows Installer, choose to do a clean install, and use the partitioning and formatting tools to DELETE first the 200MB EFI partition at the start of the disk, then delete all HFS+ partitions. I advise you to format the partitions you created using a "quick" NTFS format. In any circumstance, the partitions MUST be formatted after being created. Next, install Windows on partition C: (Disk 0, Partition 1). 1) Once Windows is installed and you are at the Windows Desktop, insert the Drivers disk and install them. The installer will begin automatically, and will require no input from you. 2) Next, "Activate" your copy. Open the Start Menu, and choose "Activate Windows". It will be a little different under Vista. a) Windows XP -- Open Start Menu, click on "More Programs" and then choose "activate Windows". Windows Vista -- Open "Welcome Center" -- should open automatically when booting into Vista, and select "More Information" At the bottom of the displayed dialog, there will be a link to Activate Windows. Click on it, and the Activation Wizard will begin. Choose to Activate via the Internet (if you have an active Network connection.) This will take about 5 seconds. Otherwise choose to Activate via telephone, and choose to speak with a representative. Follow his/her directions. NOTE: I am firmly convinced that these techs are instructed by Microsoft to do everything possible to ensure the customer has a positive and successful outcome. I have NEVER been unable to activate my OS, even under questionable circumstances. Just tell the "voice" to send you to a representative: say "representative" until the computer voice transfers you. This usually takes only a few minutes (two or three). 3) Once Activated, Open Start Menu and choose "Windows Update" and fully update your OS. With XP SP2, you will need to install about 90 or so updates. Pretty-much select ALL updates WU presents on your screen. EXCEPT the "optional update for HP", which has destroyed my installation each time it has been mistakenly. Even after choosing them all, WU will only install those updates you actually need. I would be sure to choose to hide the HP optional hardware update. Nevertheless, keep an eye on it, since every once in a while, WU will throw it in the list of NECESSARY updates. You should also go through the updating cycles until WU displays no more needed updates. With Vista, you will only need about 35 or so updates. Just select all of them you need. (pretty much all of them). 4) Next, run Apple Software update, and update any needed Apple Windows software (including iTunes/Quicktime for Windows. Once this is finished, install a GOOD-QUALITY Antivirus product (i.e., NOT a free product!!!), such as NOD32, Trend Micro PC-Cillin (if using Vista, you will have to download the Vista-only version of Trend Micro PC-Cillin), or Kaspersky for Vista. Update and USE IT IMMEDIATELY!!! (especially if you've never used a Windows product before. Now, you have a purely-Windows-based Apple Intel PC. A few facts about Windows Activation and Registration: 1) "Activation" is absolutely mandatory to download updates or use the OS beyond the 30-day trial period. 2) It is NOT necessary to "Register" your copy to either Activate or use your copy. 3) Activation is MANDATORY. Registration is not (nor it even something to be desired, if you are concerned about your privacy.) 4) Activation requires no personally-identifiable information. Registration DOES. 5) Your Activation record on the Activation server will be deleted completely after 120 days have passed since your last activation. Because of this, I am confident that Microsoft is fully committed to your continued use of your license, since this particular aspect of activation is extremely easy to misuse by the user. Just be aware that I've never been unable to "honestly" activate my OS under ANY circumstance. I am convinced that the Activation techs are instructed to ensure that you have a completely successful outcome. Donald McDaniel Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64535-no-need-to-use-bootcamp-to-install-os-x-on-your-intel-based-apple/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 Why would anyone want to put a POS operating system such as Windows on their iGod computer? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64535-no-need-to-use-bootcamp-to-install-os-x-on-your-intel-based-apple/#findComment-457076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindowsOnIMac Posted September 26, 2007 Author Share Posted September 26, 2007 Why would anyone want to put a POS operating system such as Windows on their iGod computer? Colonel, I have no wish to argue about the relative merits of OS X or Windows, or about various folks' reasons for installing any particular OS on their Apple Intel PCs. I posted this so anyone else who wants to do it may. You don't like this? Don't do it. I am not twisting your arm to do it. Perhaps someone else wants to do it. That is THEIR choice, not yours, since it is THEIR computer. I think you have a few "territorial" issues. You need to learn to M.Y.O.B. Stay out of everyone else's space, sir. Donald McDaniel Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64535-no-need-to-use-bootcamp-to-install-os-x-on-your-intel-based-apple/#findComment-457089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hecker Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 ...Colonel, I have no wish to argue about the relative merits of OS X or Windows So Windows has merits now? No, but really. Who would want to put a Skoda motor in a Porsche? hecker Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64535-no-need-to-use-bootcamp-to-install-os-x-on-your-intel-based-apple/#findComment-457096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 It's just that you posted this in a forum full of people who want OS X on their PC not the other way around... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64535-no-need-to-use-bootcamp-to-install-os-x-on-your-intel-based-apple/#findComment-457149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prawker Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 Why would you want Windows as the only OS on your Mac? Seriously, what a waste of a mac! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64535-no-need-to-use-bootcamp-to-install-os-x-on-your-intel-based-apple/#findComment-457182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sangui Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 install a GOOD-QUALITY Antivirus product (i.e., NOT a free product!!!), such as NOD32, Trend Micro PC-Cillin FUD avast! or AVG are perfectly good free antivirus' Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64535-no-need-to-use-bootcamp-to-install-os-x-on-your-intel-based-apple/#findComment-457326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rathalos Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 man, seriously, who wants to put windows in a mac? u spent so much money getting it, and u're using a second class os for the first class system.... go spend that money and get a bloody normal laptop man... it comes with windows pre-installed.... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64535-no-need-to-use-bootcamp-to-install-os-x-on-your-intel-based-apple/#findComment-457340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
damesj Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 dont have to criticize him... he is just providing information. You never know maybe someone would like their system setup this way. Any help is better than no help. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64535-no-need-to-use-bootcamp-to-install-os-x-on-your-intel-based-apple/#findComment-457412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindowsOnIMac Posted September 27, 2007 Author Share Posted September 27, 2007 man, seriously, who wants to put windows in a mac? u spent so much money getting it, and u're using a second class os for the first class system.... go spend that money and get a bloody normal laptop man... it comes with windows pre-installed....You guys really are a bunch of posers, who are jealous that I am not using my Mac (the magical machine I have, and you don't, and which you worship from afar) to run the OS you worship from afar, yet you are either too cheap or too poor to buy your own legal copy and the Mac to run it on.I assure you, there is nothing "magical" about owning a Macintosh. They are much like other OEM PCs, and are usually more under-powered and expensive. As an example, Dell's gross profit per unit is around 20%, while Apple's is around 50%. What do you think causes this large of a difference in profit per unit between "normal" PCs and Apple Intel PCs?Apple rationalizes its high prices by the "quality" of individual components, which they claim are of higher quality, so have higher costs, resulting in higher-priced computers. Yet anyone who knows what the components are knows that they are standard, off-the-shelf components, manufactured by the same manufacturers who provide parts for other OEM computers, and sold at wholesale prices to anyone who drops by the factory.Obviously, Apple is a little confused when it claims its machines are superior in workmanship and parts quality to other OEM machines, and so that justifies them being more expensive.Any company which pays $30/unit for a DVD burner, when other companies only pay $15/unit, is stupid. I prefer not to believe the owners of Apple, Inc. are stupid. Therefore, either they are lying about their costs per unit, or they simply have a higher markup per unit than other OEMs. Occam's Razor tells us that the simplest explanation must be the most likely. I agree. So I assume they have a higher markup per unit, which is why their profit per unit is so much higher than other OEMs. I prefer not to believe they are lying through their teeth.Anyway, whether Apple, Inc. is intentionally lying or just being stupid is not important: what is important is that their computers are higher-priced than other OEM computers of the same quality and parts, whether Apple admits it or not. I realize a company has the right to set the price of its products at a level they want them set, but at a certain point, their sales will drop off if they set the price too high for the "average" worker, which is true for Apple, which never got a higher market-share than 5% or so.IBM made the same exact mistake with the IBM PC. They simply priced it too high for "Joe SixPack" and tried to keep others out of their market, resulting in "Big Iron" running back home to that town in N.Y. with its tail tucked between its legs. If instead, IBM had been willing to license their CPU technology, rather than shutting the door to other manufacturers, there would be no AMD CPUs today.The old saying still goes: "If you love some one, you must let them go. If they never return, they were never meant for you. If they do, your love will not have been in vain."Being possessive about someone is the easiest path to losing them.Donald McDanielFUDavast! or AVG are perfectly good free antivirus'In any case, use and keep updated whichever product you choose, whether it is "free" or commercial.That was the intent of my inclusion. If you disagree with my stand against using "free" software for such an important function, that is certainly your prerogative.Any AV product, whether "free" or commercial, is useless and nothing but "HD {censored}-rot" if it is not continually updated and used.If you want a clean system, you will have to pay a little "blood" for it. There is no way to have a clean system without alittle daily effort.Donald McDaniel Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64535-no-need-to-use-bootcamp-to-install-os-x-on-your-intel-based-apple/#findComment-457457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDoggyca Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 I almsot have to say aint-viruse are almost useless if the end user knows what he/she is doing.... I have and seen many run with out and never had issuse with virsues ever....it all comes down to.. sohuld I ckick that? sohuld I install that? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64535-no-need-to-use-bootcamp-to-install-os-x-on-your-intel-based-apple/#findComment-459100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeRaoul Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 You guys really are a bunch of posers, who are jealous that I am not using my Mac (the magical machine I have, and you don't, and which you worship from afar) to run the OS you worship from afar.... : "If you love some one, you must let them go. If they never return, they were never meant for you. If they do, your love will not have been in vain."Being possessive about someone is the easiest path to losing them.Donald McDaniel ... useless and nothing but "HD {censored}-rot" if it is not continually updated and used.If you want a clean system, you will have to pay a little "blood" for it. There is no way to have a clean system without alittle daily effort.Donald McDaniel LOL! the guy's all kinds of mad... angry and crazy and like the {censored}in' sasquatch on the loose with a metaphor machine gun it's just computers man, they're all just little boxes of fancy {censored} whoop-dee-doo Ronald McDonald Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64535-no-need-to-use-bootcamp-to-install-os-x-on-your-intel-based-apple/#findComment-459223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apowerr Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Whether or not you like Windows, you really shouldn't flame WindowsOnIMac, at least he was nice enough to write this tutorial. is that their computers are higher-priced than other OEM computers of the same quality and parts, whether Apple admits it or not. Laptops: No Desktops: Yes Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64535-no-need-to-use-bootcamp-to-install-os-x-on-your-intel-based-apple/#findComment-459336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killroy Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Thanks for the instructions, but I don't see the point in this. With OS X Tiger you can use Boot Camp for Windows, delete unnescessary files and shrink your OS X partition to <5GB. That way you'll still be able to use Apple's support/software updates if you choose (need) to. What benefits are there to this method? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64535-no-need-to-use-bootcamp-to-install-os-x-on-your-intel-based-apple/#findComment-459353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
glassJAw Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 I keep Windows XP in a Virtual Machine where it belongs. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64535-no-need-to-use-bootcamp-to-install-os-x-on-your-intel-based-apple/#findComment-460801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayanami Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 I can understand it, to some degree. I have a friend who wants a Mac laptop, not because of the OS, but because you can't get a better gaming PC at the size and value of the Mac laptops. I do agree that it would still be worthwile to keep the bare minimum of OS X on it, but for a few people who have one purpose in mind, there aren't really any other PC laptops that offer the displays that Macs do. There aren't really any PC laptops that offer the hardware configuration in this kind of size that Macs do. Chill out. I like my Windows. Obviously Windows has some merit, else it wouldn't dominate the market. There are pros and cons to both. If I had to own a Windows only machine, and a high end one, I'd probably get a Mac. Size and power. We're talking hardware here. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64535-no-need-to-use-bootcamp-to-install-os-x-on-your-intel-based-apple/#findComment-461795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Druff Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 WoW! So much hate... WindowsOnIMac was kind enough to give the info, we should be kind enough to say «OK, but no thanks!» Instead I hear «HERESY!» Sound like cold-war americans when someone said: «socialism may be a good way of life.» or cold-war russians when someone said... well, something. I know of someone who may want windows on his Mac. My stepfather is 73, he got used to windows in 8 years. He doesn't want to learn a new OS, he know MSN, IE, MS-Office, Encarta... All of these program's shortcut on the desktop. He loves the iMac 24". He's almost deaf and use hearing aid, so a near silent PC is perfect. He's having trouble to see little things, so a big display with big icons would be perfect. He doesn't want to change his PC in two years, so a good PC with long life is perfect. He doesn't like to have to do thing to make the computer work, so pressing command at each startup would be too much (but he's still using Windoze!) With all of these thing, I may end up to install Windows only on a iMac 24". (and reinstall OSX once the flame of life is extinguished in his eyes , actually, my wife said that!) Thanks WindowsOnIMac, this may become very useful to me. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64535-no-need-to-use-bootcamp-to-install-os-x-on-your-intel-based-apple/#findComment-461853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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