ulyanov77 Posted March 3, 2007 Author Share Posted March 3, 2007 thanks much to the one person who stayed on topic , but to answer your question, i'm running x86 for the time being.... but in any case I tried getting to the folder through grabit, explorer, command prompt... nothing! the only way i have actually seen the folder is when i try to change the default folder and within that the download folder is actually there, very strange Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/43269-amazingly-high-vista-annoyance/page/2/#findComment-315301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlyboy Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 thanks much to the one person who stayed on topic , but to answer your question, i'm running x86 for the time being.... but in any case I tried getting to the folder through grabit, explorer, command prompt... nothing! the only way i have actually seen the folder is when i try to change the default folder and within that the download folder is actually there, very strange C: windows system32 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/43269-amazingly-high-vista-annoyance/page/2/#findComment-315504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulyanov77 Posted March 3, 2007 Author Share Posted March 3, 2007 C:windows system32 mmm? I don't think I understand what you're getting at... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/43269-amazingly-high-vista-annoyance/page/2/#findComment-315621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metrogirl Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Hmm, I got flamed when I tried to moan about Vista's security a while back. Back on topic - one thing I've found with some pre-Vista programs is that they try to write to directories that Vista protects, so they either fail with a warning or they try to write, silently give up, and you find that nothing was saved when you exit the program. One solution I've used to good effect is to create a symlink in the protected space which points to a directory in the normal space, and writes will then work. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/43269-amazingly-high-vista-annoyance/page/2/#findComment-316576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jccool Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 (edited) Hello, I would like to express my annoyances expirience with Vista. I had (not have) been using Vista Ultimate X64. When I first installed it, I was quite pleased with the interface, quite clean and clear. As I kept using the OS, I kept feeling more and more lik in osx. The Sidebar felt to me like Dashboard, gadgets like widgets, heck, documents and settings was renamed to users and, like mac, there is no longer a "my" prefix on everything, its, computer, documents, pictures etc. Also, I knew I was in mac when it started asking me to authenticate to put things in program files, run things as admin etc. Also the fact that IE7 uses tabs is kinda taking Mozilla's creative idea isn't it? The one thing Microsoft forgot to steal port, as always is stability from mac and the ability to restore your internet session like firefox. Vista really started showing its colors when I tried to use Media Center. As it turns out the X1950XT is extremely incompatible with Vista and frequently crashes when changing clocks. This first of all means I can't use ati's ccc, and also I couldnt use anything opengl plus Media Center caused the PC to reboot on its own. Kind of odd that the Jccool Method (apple/homebrew) works better than (ATi/proffessionally codded) drivers. Even the Microsoft WDDM x1900 drivers caused this. After all these insane aannoyances, I said "censor" it and went to XP sp2 64 with vista skinning. Same look, 9x the stability and productivity :-) To summerize how Vista T'ed me off: -Most programs(64 and 32bit) and drivers arn't compatible with Vista or Aero -Still same ugly "® Blue Screen of Death © 1997-2007 Microsoft Corporation *(you'd think they'd put more effort and style into their most frequently used/viewed feature)(but then again, a kernel panic in osx doesn't have much to it either) -Very unstable -Infringed Apple, Mozila and other's creativity -Slower than previous Mirosoft OS's -Too much security -Ages below Mac OSX Thank You for taking in my opinions and annoyances, Jccool Edited March 5, 2007 by jccool Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/43269-amazingly-high-vista-annoyance/page/2/#findComment-316649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppan76 Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 (edited) From the user experience perspective. I think Vista is pretty much the same as Windows XP. With just a cleaner more eye candy interface. If you turn off UAC is basically behaves the same way. I am not sure if I am too used to the Windows Explorer in 2K or XP. But I sortta dont like the explorer in Vista. I am still trying to find the reason. I dont like Flip3D. But I love it that MS finally wrote the thumbnail Window API. No more taking screenshots of Windows anymore. Someday, someone will write a nice version of Exposed. And hopefully someday will write a *Fast* Beryl for Vista (unlikely though). Love the Sleep function under Vista. P.S. Beryl is awesome. Buggy as hell and extremely hard to configure. But really nice eye candy for the desktop. Edited March 5, 2007 by ppan76 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/43269-amazingly-high-vista-annoyance/page/2/#findComment-316787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Universe_JDJ Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 (edited) -Most programs(64 and 32bit) and drivers arn't compatible with Vista or Aero I'm not sure what programs you are running, but most programs tend to work on Vista nowadays. If they don't XP Compatability mode works, with some cases. I mean the only problems I've experienced are with TortoiseSVN and I've found another product that works just as well that IS Vista compatible. As with drivers, running Windows Update, or checking your manufacturers website generally yields Vista compatible drivers. When I installed Vista, it found drivers for everything except my webcam (Ironically, the webcam drivers for XP seem to work on Vista as well.) Edited March 5, 2007 by Universe_JDJ Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/43269-amazingly-high-vista-annoyance/page/2/#findComment-316847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rseso Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Hey, I'm posting here mainly because I'm furious and happen to be on this site... Anywho, I've been playing around on my new copy of Vista for a few days now and am absolutely in love with it. I've gotten well used to the security preferences and don't mind them a bit. However, I was just downloading something from Usenet with Grabit as my reader... I haven't checked around the preferences or anything and just got done completely downloading a 4 GB file only to find that the default download folder (...Grabit/download) was nowhere to be found?!? I can only assume this is some bit of Vista's "security" and that I just wasted a ton of my alloted download block for nothing.. I know that I probably should have checked it out while before downloading, but still. Has anyone else had a similar problem? Scott Hanselman had the same problem a while ago, check hist post here HTH, Robert Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/43269-amazingly-high-vista-annoyance/page/2/#findComment-317190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoid Marvin Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Mac user disapointed with Vista. Cancel or Allow? Personally, I haven't seen it since the Beta 2! - I don't get out often, I think! I don't reall have the hardware to install it on - I doubt it would run well on 256mb of RAM or intergrated graphics. I suppose it would run faster on than than on a G4 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/43269-amazingly-high-vista-annoyance/page/2/#findComment-317198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ramm Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 They should have named Vista XP-NVWSNI XP New Version, Worse Security, No Improvement Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/43269-amazingly-high-vista-annoyance/page/2/#findComment-317251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jccool Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 They should have named Vista XP-NVWSNI XP New Version, Worse Security, No Improvement I agree with you completely (although long name woulda been bad for marketing) exept the "worse security part is from a user point of view as in its too crazy but "technically" the security is more secure but when you go as nutz as Mikroesawft, it feels more like your guarding a vault of gold rather than protecting a user from advare and malware, Jccool Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/43269-amazingly-high-vista-annoyance/page/2/#findComment-317320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
robotskip Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 They should have named Vista XP-NVWSNI XP New Version, Worse Security, No Improvement Facts and reality would tend to disagree with you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_new_to_windows_vista Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/43269-amazingly-high-vista-annoyance/page/2/#findComment-317392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyrates Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 (edited) It amazes me to no end the amount of ignorance that some users have. Reminds me of the people that still support Bush. Edited March 6, 2007 by pyrates Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/43269-amazingly-high-vista-annoyance/page/2/#findComment-317551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 It amazes me to no end the amount of ignorance that some users have. Reminds me of the people that still support Bush. Why the heck do you have to bring Bush into this? :glare: Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/43269-amazingly-high-vista-annoyance/page/2/#findComment-317629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPDM Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 *ahem* Ubuntu Linux Windows Vista: Mac OS X: See anything familiar? :glare: I too was wondering what you're all bitchering about. Until I saw Colonel's pointing out the obvious. Thank God, there is at least one person with common sense Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/43269-amazingly-high-vista-annoyance/page/2/#findComment-317632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingk1314 Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 actually the flip3d is NOT totally useless... it does give the user visual feedback in regards to which folder/app they wanna go to.. and u can still just click on it and it'll come up... u DON'T NEED TO SCROLL through the whole thing. anyway back to the topic.. i find alot of things annoying.. mainly compatibility with hardware and some software.. then there's the DRM protection.. half my mp3's won't even play under windows media player 11 now. o well.. at least I'm still using my OSX From the user experience perspective. I think Vista is pretty much the same as Windows XP. With just a cleaner more eye candy interface. If you turn off UAC is basically behaves the same way. I am not sure if I am too used to the Windows Explorer in 2K or XP. But I sortta dont like the explorer in Vista. I am still trying to find the reason. I dont like Flip3D. But I love it that MS finally wrote the thumbnail Window API. No more taking screenshots of Windows anymore. Someday, someone will write a nice version of Exposed. And hopefully someday will write a *Fast* Beryl for Vista (unlikely though). Love the Sleep function under Vista. P.S. Beryl is awesome. Buggy as hell and extremely hard to configure. But really nice eye candy for the desktop. it's been done already.. it's called myexpose (if i remember correctly) it's fast too.. but quite limited as it can only show all windows. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/43269-amazingly-high-vista-annoyance/page/2/#findComment-317789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metrogirl Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 I have spent many happy (?) hours knocking XP about to get a system that I can use without too much irritation. and I use XP most of the time, even more than I use OSX*. I have a whole list of customisations which I apply to an XP build and basically I'm happy with the results. I'm slowly building up a list of Vista customisations to get to the same happy state. So far I'm doing quite well at killing stuff I don't like and adding the features I do like. I still have a long way to go but when I arrive at a comprehensive list of 'fixes' I'll share it with everyone here. * Actually I have a list of customisations for OSX too, since there's plenty that irritates me about the standard build... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/43269-amazingly-high-vista-annoyance/page/2/#findComment-318084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyrates Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Why the heck do you have to bring Bush into this? lol sorry, I was just trying to make a comparison of some users. And I mean all user types that favour one OS claiming its perfection over another even when proved wrong who still refuse to believe it. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/43269-amazingly-high-vista-annoyance/page/2/#findComment-318159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metrogirl Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 There are evangelists for every cause, persuasion or operating system ... and sadly they sometimes rely on the opinion of others instead of using rational examination of the facts to form their views. Bottom line here is that every OS sucks in some way or other. And the things that p*ss me off may well be the very things that other people like. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/43269-amazingly-high-vista-annoyance/page/2/#findComment-318168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppan76 Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 it's been done already..it's called myexpose (if i remember correctly) it's fast too.. but quite limited as it can only show all windows. I said when they write a "NICE" version of Expose. MyExpose is not finished and it's extremely buggy. I believe it has not been updated since November or December. But it does show a nice feature of Flip3D... Live Thumbnails. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/43269-amazingly-high-vista-annoyance/page/2/#findComment-319132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
djXtreme Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 thanks much to the one person who stayed on topic , but to answer your question, i'm running x86 for the time being.... but in any case I tried getting to the folder through grabit, explorer, command prompt... nothing! the only way i have actually seen the folder is when i try to change the default folder and within that the download folder is actually there, very strange lol getting back on point then, care to take some screengrabs? also, could you export your grabit registry details (hklm - local machine - software - schemes i think) and post them in a text file. dont attach the .reg file someone will open it to the rest of you, go get your own thread Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/43269-amazingly-high-vista-annoyance/page/2/#findComment-323791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reactorika Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 colonel, we had it first Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/43269-amazingly-high-vista-annoyance/page/2/#findComment-327052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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