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4 hours ago, CloverLeaf said:

I want to give a try to my studio PC - Asus Maximus VIII Gene + i7 6700K + RX6600, currently working just fine with the latest Ventura 13.5.1 and SMBIOS - iMac18,2. What is the best SMBIOS to use for the test ? Anybody succeeded with Sonoma and Skylake ?

Yes I did install macOS Sonoma on Haswell and SkyLake successfully. I used iMac19,1 SMBIOS.

See here:

https://community.macmeup.com/index.php?/forum/126-opencore-legacy-patcher-hackintosh-discussion/

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5 hours ago, CloverLeaf said:

I want to give a try to my studio PC - Asus Maximus VIII Gene + i7 6700K + RX6600, currently working just fine with the latest Ventura 13.5.1 and SMBIOS - iMac18,2. What is the best SMBIOS to use for the test ? Anybody succeeded with Sonoma and Skylake ?

 

If you implement Booter and Kernel Patches from OCLP you could stay on iMac18,2 and still install Sonoma. But configuration takes more effort than just changing SMBIOS and spoofing Kaby Lake graphics: https://github.com/5T33Z0/OC-Little-Translated/blob/main/14_OCLP_Wintel/Skylake_Ventura.md

10 hours ago, CloverLeaf said:

I want to give a try to my studio PC - Asus Maximus VIII Gene + i7 6700K + RX6600, currently working just fine with the latest Ventura 13.5.1 and SMBIOS - iMac18,2. What is the best SMBIOS to use for the test ? Anybody succeeded with Sonoma and Skylake ?

I have Skylake with Sonoma without OCLP. Smbios iMac19,1 just for update capabilities.

But I have iGPU switched off in BIOS and I am using dGPU as RX570.

Don't wonder, iMac without iGPU. Since Ventura it is possible and works fine, very fine, including sleep/wake, DRM, QuickLook on JPEG and RAW. All is fine. 

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26 minutes ago, Slice said:

I have Skylake with Sonoma without OCLP. Smbios iMac19,1 just for update capabilities.

But I have iGPU switched off in BIOS and I am using dGPU as RX570.

Don't wonder, iMac without iGPU. Since Ventura it is possible and works fine, very fine, including sleep/wake, DRM, QuickLook on JPEG and RAW. All is fine. 

 

Well, of course you don't use this patches since the Booter Patches can't be applied with Clover…

1 hour ago, Slice said:

I have Skylake with Sonoma without OCLP. Smbios iMac19,1 just for update capabilities.

But I have iGPU switched off in BIOS and I am using dGPU as RX570.

Don't wonder, iMac without iGPU. Since Ventura it is possible and works fine, very fine, including sleep/wake, DRM, QuickLook on JPEG and RAW. All is fine. 

So if you are using clover (or OpenCore) to boot Sonoma, how did you make the Root Patching before booting ??

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Kaby Lake rig went fine:

Screenshot 2023-08-22 at 11.27.06 AM.png

4 minutes ago, eSaF said:

Revert the patch and normalized the config.plists, reboot, clean NvRAM and the 1.54 GB incremental update was offered

You don't need to change the boot-args, just revert the root patches and the incremental update will still show up.

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1 hour ago, Cyberdevs said:

You don't need to change the boot-args, just revert the root patches and the incremental update will still show up.

 

Instead of reverting root patches, isn't easier to just enable the VMM Flag in Kernel->Emulate->Cpuid1Data and reboot to show incremental update:Screenshot2023-08-22at21_02_15.thumb.png.739a80b3f6f38a78c55956497440130d.png

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10 minutes ago, eSaF said:

I agree, worth a try yes. Anything to make updates easier. :thumbsup_anim:

 

Certainly worked for me in the past on Monterey.

Once update completes, just turn it OFF as there's a potential ~ 5% performance drop due to power management.

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@MacNB  @Cyberdevs @eSaF

 

Tried 2 different ways:

  • RestrictEvents + revpatch=sbvmm as in latest update
  • VMM Flag in Kernel->Emulate->Cpuid1Data

Both ways give to me kern.hv_vmm_present=1 (so both are working as expected). But both settings give to me an update size > 12GB.

/Users/yo > sysctl kern.hv_vmm_present
kern.hv_vmm_present: 1

Only way to get incremental size (1.54GB) is reverting OCLP root patch, as said by @Cyberdevs  @eSaF  and others.

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@eSaF

It is not a big drawback, the difference in time between downloading full size or incremental size is very small, in fact the longest period of time is while "Preparing update", once already downloaded. 

Anyway, we get the update one way or another 🙂

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24 minutes ago, Cyberdevs said:

@MacNB

It doesn't seem to be working on Sonoma

I'll investigate further later and see if I did something wrong or why I don't get the incremental update with your suggestion.

Screenshot 2023-08-22 at 1.45.01 PM.png 

 

Ok so it appears that there's more check under the hood than just VMM & SMBios.

With my Monterey, I got incremental updates by just setting VMM but I had no root patches as I did not need any on that system.

 

So from your results, Root patches do indeed need to be removed first. Thx

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18 minutes ago, Cyberdevs said:

@MacNB

It doesn't seem to be working on Sonoma

I'll investigate further later and see if I did something wrong or why I don't get the incremental update with your suggestion.

Screenshot 2023-08-22 at 1.45.01 PM.png 

I am not sure and could be wrong but I think that VMM flag was replaced by the VMM patch? Which now can be replaced by RestrictEvents.kext and sbvmm boot flag to get OTA updates. Thanks to MacNB, I've used that VMM flag in Big Sur after seeing the post by MacNB some time ago. It worked well on Big Sur with no root patches and got the small incremental updates. But for me as well, on a root patched system, using that VMM flag does offer OTA updates, but with full size app unless the root patches are reverted. So maybe to get the small incremental update, we would still need to revert root patches?

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@miliuco

Well, in my case the download size does actually matter because I have to download the updates on several computers and when you sum them up it amounts to a longer time for getting them updated so I really need the incremental updates instead of the full installer update.

So until we find a way to get the updates without reverting the patches I'm happy with reverting them and get the incremental updates.

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