johnniecarcinogen Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 EDIT: video webcast with Balmer and everything: http://www.novell.com/linux/microsoft/webcast.html Microsoft backs Novell's Linux platform~? Official press release from Novell: http://www.novell.com/news/press/item.jsp?...mp;locale=en_US Under the partnership, Microsoft's sales team will offer its corporate customers a chance to license its Windows operating system as part of a package offering maintenance and support for Novell's Suse Linux platform. I simply do not know what to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe75 Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Novell has been looking for ways to get into production PCs and it looks like they found it. I think the strange part is, why would M$ want to partner with Novell, I could only imagine it would be to get into some of suse's server business I really hope SuSE dose not get corrupted by Microsoft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSkywalker Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Their initial purpose might be building a carbon copy of OS X - unix under the hood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe75 Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Their initial purpose might be building a carbon copy of OS X That might not be to far-fetched, it came to my mind while reading the release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSkywalker Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Of course not, I was just mocking them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domino Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Who didn't see this coming when MS announced that they were producing their Office line for Linux? The way i see it, the best looking and professional desktop with Linux is SuSE. There are different distributions for SuSE and one of them you will have to pay for. Lets face it, MS Office users outnumber OOo users maybe 10-1, if not more. Few of them will not switch to OOo if they have been using MS Office for more than 7yrs. I can't begin to count how much the company would save if they use SuSE and MS Office, as oppose to buying seats for MS workstations. This might be good for MS Office and Novell in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandmanfvrga Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 I posted this in the Readers News, didn't look in here first though. It is scary. I don't use Linux but my friends do and I guess it can be good, but then it can be bad at the same time. MS might give DirectX to linux, or SUSE but they may not stop at one thing and eventually own Linux or a part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domino Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Well if MS does lay stakes on Novell, it can be good or bad. The good is that it might lay examples for higher commitment on the part of nVidia an ATI. I don't want to even think of what bad things can happen if MS gains control of some Linux distributers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandmanfvrga Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Exactly. Good, like you said, some standards and higher quality in the Linux world. Bad, well, MS takes over and Linux is {censored}. I don't see the bad happening, but never say never! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe75 Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 I don't want to even think of what bad things can happen if MS gains control of some Linux distributers. I dont think M$ would be able to lasso any other distributions, I'm sure they only got with Novell because of their steady interest of getting into consumer PCs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRP Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 I really hope SuSE dose not get corrupted by Microsoft How? Unlike Mac OS pre-X, they can't really corrupt Linux because in Unix-like environments, if it ain't running it ain't running. No Mac IE-esque screwing up your system because you're using the only half-decent browser there is for the platform at the time (unless you were an opera freak back in the day). Their initial purpose might be building a carbon copy of OS X - unix under the hood Ever heard of XENIX? Microsoft isn't really ready to buck their whole "Let's invent everything ourselves" mentality just yet, not when they're still rolling in the dough. Vista IS their attempt to pull an OS X. The various points of unsuccessful they met along the way was a result of trying to get nearly forty years' worth of work done in five. I posted this in the Readers News, didn't look in here first though. It is scary. I don't use Linux but my friends do and I guess it can be good, but then it can be bad at the same time. MS might give DirectX to linux, or SUSE but they may not stop at one thing and eventually own Linux or a part of it. Exactly. Good, like you said, some standards and higher quality in the Linux world. Bad, well, MS takes over and Linux is {censored}. I don't see the bad happening, but never say never!It can't legally happen. The entire GNU, FSF, GPL, etc. and Linux's ties to them make them inextricably in the realm of public availability. Contributions to Linux go through a serious screening process that ensure quality, just like any professionally made proprietary operating system (yes, even ha-ha Windows). Moreover, in order to make money off of Linux itself, you have to deal with the Linux Mark Institute. Novell has always been a large component of Microsoft's "other OS support" anyways. Back in the day, it was the only way you could get UNIX, Mac OS, and Windows to talk to each other easily! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domino Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 In comments confirming the open-source community's suspicions, Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer Thursday declared his belief that the Linux operating system infringes on Microsoft's intellectual property. In a question-and-answer session after his keynote speech at the Professional Association for SQL Server (PASS) conference in Seattle, Ballmer said Microsoft was motivated to sign a deal with SUSE Linux distributor Novell earlier this month because Linux "uses our intellectual property" and Microsoft wanted to "get the appropriate economic return for our shareholders from our innovation." /reading on../ Ballmer did not provide details during his comments Thursday. But he was adamant that Linux users, apart from those using SUSE, are taking advantage of Microsoft innovation, and that someone -- either Linux vendors or users -- would eventually have to pay up. "Only customers that use SUSE have paid properly for intellectual property from Microsoft," he said. "We are willing to do a deal with Red Hat and other Linux distributors." The deal with SUSE Linux "is not exclusive," Ballmer added. Ballmer: Linux users owe Microsoft Wow! The corporate jackasses at Redmond really has the nerve.. -edit- I take back my previous posts. Nothing good can happens with what ever MS gets there grubby little hands on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe75 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 FUD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katmail Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 There is corporate culture at Microsoft that kill anything good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domino Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 The "intellectual property" MS may be talking about the the mouse double-click. It's obvious the people giving away patents do not hold any kind of IT background. I guess we all should go on a patent spree so MS doesn't get hold of any more "good ideas". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bxsci(macuser) Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 i see it all as M$ simply trying to steal something else, there must be something in linux that M$ wants to monoplolize, just like they try to do with everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
u1m2 Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 I love this forum, it's one of the very few on which one can write "M$" and not get bashed for it. (unlike stupid H ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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