MifJpnAlphaPlus Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, phi777 said: OK, to be honest, I only tested it for imac 19.2, without J160AP it leaves HWTarget blank and I could not update. So do you propose, leaving it blank for imac19.1 or using x86legacy ? Hello. I was also using an iMac 19,2. (i7-8700,H370) We had just scheduled an update to 12.3. I had a large file server.Once I backed up the entire system. And then. I tried without HWTarget(Not Blank) and with HWTarget being x86legacy, both updates worked. Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Edited March 16, 2022 by MifJpnAlphaPlus 2 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1126/#findComment-2778400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slice Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 9 hours ago, chris1111 said: Xcode Version 13.3 (13E113) build Failled on Monterey 12.3 GCC build correct without issue Thanks for the note. Will be corrected. Is it the only place? I have no Xcode13 to check. 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1126/#findComment-2778420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris1111 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Slice said: Thanks for the note. Will be corrected. Is it the only place? I have no Xcode13 to check. Yes only place? I believe because he stops there Edited March 17, 2022 by chris1111 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1126/#findComment-2778431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris1111 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) On 3/17/2022 at 1:34 AM, Slice said: Thanks for the note. Will be corrected. Is it the only place? I have no Xcode13 to check. Hi @Slice I did a lot of testing and the problem comes only from Xcode Version 13.3 (13E113) because with Xcode Version 13.2.1 (13C100) in macOS 12.3 Clover source no problem compiling Xcode and GCC Here build Xcode sucessfull BUILDINFOS_STR "Args: -mc -D NO_GRUB_DRIVERS | --cmd-len=50000 -D NO_GRUB_DRIVERS --conf=/Users/chris/src/CloverBootloader/Conf -D USE_BIOS_BLOCKIO -D USE_LOW_EBDA -a X64 -b RELEASE -t XCODE8 -n 5 | OS: 12.3" EDIT *** Xcode Version 13.3 (13E113) works with MacOSX12.1.sdk Spoiler See https://github.com/chris1111/macOS-SDK Edited March 18, 2022 by chris1111 see spoiler Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1126/#findComment-2778479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 5T33Z0 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 If i use Clover r5145 to Boot Windows 11, Windows Boot Manager Takes over the first position in the boot driver order. How can I fix this? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1126/#findComment-2778660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slice Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, 5T33Z0 said: If i use Clover r5145 to Boot Windows 11, Windows Boot Manager Takes over the first position in the boot driver order. How can I fix this? I am not understanding what do you want to fix. It is the matter that windows will be started when reboot from windows. It is how the update working. LastBootVolume is that. But there is another thing. If you usually uses EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI then Windows may change it to own bootloader. I am using EFI/CLOVER/CLOVERX64.EFI for daily usage and I don't afraid Windows update. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1126/#findComment-2778663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 5T33Z0 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, Slice said: I am not understanding what do you want to fix. It is the matter that windows will be started when reboot from windows. It is how the update working. LastBootVolume is that. But there is another thing. If you usually uses EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI then Windows may change it to own bootloader. I am using EFI/CLOVER/CLOVERX64.EFI for daily usage and I don't afraid Windows update. It skips Clover. Like I said: Windows Boot Manager takes over the first position in the Boot drive order. This is not about Clover GUI loading and then Windows is the selected disk. Please read more carefully! Edited March 21, 2022 by 5T33Z0 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1126/#findComment-2778665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STLVNUB Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Use Windows Install.app Will install to any drive with its own boot loader. Very easy to use, just download iso and the rest is super easy Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1126/#findComment-2778666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 5T33Z0 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 What are you talking about? I am not talking about installing Windows. Is there anybody in here who actually can read and understand english? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1126/#findComment-2778670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockDown Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 4 hours ago, Slice said: If you usually uses EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI then Windows may change it to own bootloader. I am using EFI/CLOVER/CLOVERX64.EFI for daily usage and I don't afraid Windows update. How can i do it your way? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1126/#findComment-2778673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STLVNUB Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, 5T33Z0 said: What are you talking about? I am not talking about installing Windows. Is there anybody in here who actually can read and understand english? I find doing a fresh install is better than stuffing around trying to get it to work Sorry didn't read all of the thread but my input may help others that are trying to do same thing and are not scared to try something different Edited March 21, 2022 by STLVNUB 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1126/#findComment-2778675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slice Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 4 hours ago, LockDown said: How can i do it your way? In the Clover GUI look to second row carefully. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1126/#findComment-2778681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
makk Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 7 hours ago, 5T33Z0 said: What are you talking about? I am not talking about installing Windows. Is there anybody in here who actually can read and understand english? @5T33Z0 Hi there, I posted on the Opencore v Clover try that in the post. Find kushwavez's post on dual booting. He recently posted it and has vouched for many installs with this method. Can you post your diskutil list over there on my posted reply on OC v Clover? Thank you Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1126/#findComment-2778699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 5T33Z0 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 3 hours ago, STLVNUB said: I find doing a fresh install is better than stuffing around trying to get it to work Sorry didn't read all of the thread but my input may help others that are trying to do same thing and are not scared to try something different Please don't bother me with re-installing Windows 11. It was a clean install. You are totally missing the point. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1126/#findComment-2778701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 5T33Z0 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Slice said: In the Clover GUI look to second row carefully. How can I change that in the config, so EFI/CLOVER/CLOVERX64.EFI is used instead of EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1126/#findComment-2778702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slice Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 hour ago, 5T33Z0 said: How can I change that in the config, so EFI/CLOVER/CLOVERX64.EFI is used instead of EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI? Nothing to do here because this is UEFI BIOS variables working before Clover started. We made (namely Dmasar) an convenient method to write BOOT0000 variable to BIOS with Clover name. There is a possibility to do the same in Shell but the command is too complex to remember. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1126/#findComment-2778710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 5T33Z0 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 10 hours ago, Slice said: In the Clover GUI look to second row carefully. And what exactly do I have to took look for here? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1126/#findComment-2778722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slice Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 hour ago, 5T33Z0 said: And what exactly do I have to took look for here? And then press the button and see This action will create a boot option in BIOS 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1126/#findComment-2778726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PG7 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 2 hours ago, 5T33Z0 said: Et qu'est-ce que je dois exactement chercher ici? do the following create a new disk partition in addition to the source ESP who already has the original Windows EFI creates a new partition with the desired size (200 Mo) Fat32 format (Windows) or MS-DOS (MacOS) I prefer to use this way and install Bootloader Clover or another one inside that and leave the source ESP for Windows then in the Bios boot order put this new one that I leave with the name MacOS or Boot and as Clover is great in multiboot I boot with it on MacOS or Windows and any update of other systems does not affect the mac boot Time 8:23 = 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1126/#findComment-2778730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockDown Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Slice said: And then press the button and see This action will create a boot option in BIOS Oh Ok.I have that covered using Bootice Edited March 22, 2022 by LockDown 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1126/#findComment-2778755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MifJpnAlphaPlus Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 21 hours ago, Slice said: And then press the button and see This action will create a boot option in BIOS Hello. I didn't know there was such a great option. Amazing! Windows tends to set up its own deep folders in the UEFI order. In contrast, creating UEFI items is quite a tedious process. As such, if it is not that amazing option, I work in UBUNTU's live mode, such as This was a nice experience to see how UEFI boot items work. https://mifmif-mydns-jp.translate.goog/pcpc/index.php?PC3-180909&_x_tr_sl=ja&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ja&_x_tr_pto=wapp (Pardon the automatic translation.) Yes! This option just blew me away! 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1126/#findComment-2778777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tluck Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 FYI.... this seems to be an Xcode 13.3 issue? as Xcode 12.4 seems to work fine: [CC] PcRtc In file included from /opt/Source/Clover/rEFIt_UEFI/Platform/APFS.cpp:8: In file included from /opt/Source/Clover/rEFIt_UEFI/PlatformEFI/include/Platform.h:19: In file included from /opt/Source/Clover/rEFIt_UEFI/cpp_foundation/XString.h:13: size_t nb = 0; ^ /opt/Source/Clover/rEFIt_UEFI/Platform/APFS.cpp:52:68: note: in instantiation of function template specialization '__String<char, XString8>::isEqualIC<char, XString8>' requested here if ( GuidLEToXString8(*(EFI_GUID *)((UINT8 *)DevicePath+0x04)).isEqualIC(ApfsSignatureUUID) ) { ^ 1 error generated. make: *** [/opt/Source/Clover/Build/Clover/RELEASE_XCODE8/X64/rEFIt_UEFI/refit/OUTPUT/Platform/APFS.obj] Error 1 build.py... : error 7000: Failed to execute command make tbuild [/opt/Source/Clover/Build/Clover/RELEASE_XCODE8/X64/rEFIt_UEFI/refit] build.py... : error F002: Failed to build module /opt/Source/Clover/rEFIt_UEFI/refit.inf [X64, XCODE8, RELEASE] - Failed - Build end time: 10:49:08, Mar.22 2022 Build total time: 00:01:08 exit due to issues; 1 error generated. make: *** [/opt/Source/Clover/Build/Clover/RELEASE_XCODE8/X64/rEFIt_UEFI/refit/OUTPUT/Platform/APFS.obj] Error 1 : error 7000: Failed to execute command : error F002: Failed to build module - Failed - Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1126/#findComment-2778786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris1111 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 22 minutes ago, tluck said: FYI.... this seems to be an Xcode 13.3 issue? as Xcode 12.4 seems to work fine: Yep you need to use diferant SDKs 13.3 works https://github.com/chris1111/macOS-SDK 2 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1126/#findComment-2778788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slice Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 28 minutes ago, tluck said: FYI.... this seems to be an Xcode 13.3 issue? as Xcode 12.4 seems to work fine: [CC] PcRtc In file included from /opt/Source/Clover/rEFIt_UEFI/Platform/APFS.cpp:8: In file included from /opt/Source/Clover/rEFIt_UEFI/PlatformEFI/include/Platform.h:19: In file included from /opt/Source/Clover/rEFIt_UEFI/cpp_foundation/XString.h:13: size_t nb = 0; ^ /opt/Source/Clover/rEFIt_UEFI/Platform/APFS.cpp:52:68: note: in instantiation of function template specialization '__String<char, XString8>::isEqualIC<char, XString8>' requested here if ( GuidLEToXString8(*(EFI_GUID *)((UINT8 *)DevicePath+0x04)).isEqualIC(ApfsSignatureUUID) ) { ^ 1 error generated. make: *** [/opt/Source/Clover/Build/Clover/RELEASE_XCODE8/X64/rEFIt_UEFI/refit/OUTPUT/Platform/APFS.obj] Error 1 build.py... : error 7000: Failed to execute command make tbuild [/opt/Source/Clover/Build/Clover/RELEASE_XCODE8/X64/rEFIt_UEFI/refit] build.py... : error F002: Failed to build module /opt/Source/Clover/rEFIt_UEFI/refit.inf [X64, XCODE8, RELEASE] - Failed - Build end time: 10:49:08, Mar.22 2022 Build total time: 00:01:08 exit due to issues; 1 error generated. make: *** [/opt/Source/Clover/Build/Clover/RELEASE_XCODE8/X64/rEFIt_UEFI/refit/OUTPUT/Platform/APFS.obj] Error 1 : error 7000: Failed to execute command : error F002: Failed to build module - Failed - This is one new warning "set-but-unused". Fixed. Test, please, more. 2 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1126/#findComment-2778789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tluck Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Slice said: This is one new warning "set-but-unused". Fixed. Test, please, more. still the same? CC] ConsoleWrappers In file included from /opt/Source/Clover/rEFIt_UEFI/Platform/APFS.cpp:8: In file included from /opt/Source/Clover/rEFIt_UEFI/PlatformEFI/include/Platform.h:19: In file included from /opt/Source/Clover/rEFIt_UEFI/cpp_foundation/XString.h:13: size_t nb = 0; ^ /opt/Source/Clover/rEFIt_UEFI/Platform/APFS.cpp:52:68: note: in instantiation of function template specialization '__String<char, XString8>::isEqualIC<char, XString8>' requested here if ( GuidLEToXString8(*(EFI_GUID *)((UINT8 *)DevicePath+0x04)).isEqualIC(ApfsSignatureUUID) ) { ^ 1 error generated. make: *** [/opt/Source/Clover/Build/Clover/RELEASE_XCODE8/X64/rEFIt_UEFI/refit/OUTPUT/Platform/APFS.obj] Error 1 build.py... : error 7000: Failed to execute command make tbuild [/opt/Source/Clover/Build/Clover/RELEASE_XCODE8/X64/rEFIt_UEFI/refit] build.py... : error F002: Failed to build module /opt/Source/Clover/rEFIt_UEFI/refit.inf [X64, XCODE8, RELEASE] - Failed - Build end time: 14:45:52, Mar.22 2022 Build total time: 00:00:51 exit due to issues; 1 error generated. make: *** [/opt/Source/Clover/Build/Clover/RELEASE_XCODE8/X64/rEFIt_UEFI/refit/OUTPUT/Platform/APFS.obj] Error 1 : error 7000: Failed to execute command : error F002: Failed to build module - Failed - Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1126/#findComment-2778808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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