Slice Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 36 minutes ago, ellaosx said: Agree. My Z390 works better with SSDT-PMC than Emuvariable. I said better coz i randomly experiencing bad shutdown with Emu. BTW @Slice Do you know what is minimum requirement for SSDT-PMC as far as cpu/board is concern? AFAIK only Z390. 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1010/#findComment-2746235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeveedee Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) The ACPI in newer Macs (I've checked iMacPro1,1, iMac18,3, iMac19,1 and MacMini8,1) disables HPET (see here). Should CLOVER have a "Disable HPET" option in the same way that it has a "Fix HPET" option? Edited December 4, 2020 by tonyx86 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1010/#findComment-2746241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jief_Machak Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 I stumble upon this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7Sd8A6_fYU I found very interesting. The guy explain why C++ is a right choice, even for small/embedded non-OS project (Clover is not small, UEFI could be considered as an OS, but that's not the point). What's very interesting is why C programmer (no, no, I'm not thinking about the OpenCore team) are very reluctant to argument in favour of C++, even that one : C++ does everything (yes, literally everything) that C does and at least as efficient. Thanks again @Slice not having been reluctant ! 5 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1010/#findComment-2746245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slice Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 2 hours ago, tonyx86 said: The ACPI in newer Macs (I've checked iMacPro1,1, iMac18,3, iMac19,1 and MacMini8,1) disables HPET (see here). Should CLOVER have a "Disable HPET" option in the same way that it has a "Fix HPET" option? No. It is hardware property. In the sense of macOS HPET needed for AppleIntelCPUPowerManagment.kext if used. It is not used on Ivy if xcpm used and all next CPUs. 2 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1010/#findComment-2746250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeveedee Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Slice said: No. It is hardware property. In the sense of macOS HPET needed for AppleIntelCPUPowerManagment.kext if used. It is not used on Ivy if xcpm used and all next CPUs. Ok - good to know. That means we shouldn't be "Fixing HPET" and forcing it to be enabled on newer architectures. I never knew that. Thanks for clarifying. FYI - not sure this matters, but if I don't actively disable HPET in my HackMini8,1 ACPI (analogous to Apple disabling HPET in the real Mac ACPI), HPET is enabled on my HackMini8,1. There is no HPET config in my hack's BIOS. The only way I see to disable HPET on my rig is with patched ACPI. Also note that Apple's real Mac ACPI enables HPET for other OSes. EDIT: for those who will quibble with my symantics, I understand that I am confusing "disable" with "delete" and "hide." Edited December 4, 2020 by tonyx86 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1010/#findComment-2746252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slice Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 I have HPET on my Skylake computer. And I see no problem with it. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1010/#findComment-2746253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeveedee Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Slice said: I have HPET on my Skylake computer. Yes - I know. It will be present if your ACPI is not patched. It will also be present if you enable CLOVER's "FixHPET." Edited December 4, 2020 by tonyx86 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1010/#findComment-2746254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slice Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 14 minutes ago, tonyx86 said: Yes - I know. It will be present if your ACPI is not patched. It will also be present if you enable CLOVER's "FixHPET." And why do you want to delete it? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1010/#findComment-2746257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeveedee Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) 21 hours ago, Slice said: And why do you want to delete it? To emulate the behavior of a real Mac. I've usually found that emulating a real Mac is the best way to ensure optimal performance of a hack. My suggestion to add a CLOVER option "DeleteHPET" was only to emulate a real Mac. I didn't think it was unlike many other CLOVER options. @Slice I don't want to beat a dead horse and will just finish my thoughts: I have confirmed that new Macs, as early as Skylake architecture and maybe earlier (haven't checked) include ACPI to set HPET._STA=0 when running macOS and that HPET does not appear in the IORegistry of these newer Macs. My suggestion was merely to add a CLOVER option "DeleteHPET" so that we can mimic the ACPI of real Macs in our hacks. It's simple enough to do with custom SSDT as I have done here (just like with virtually all of the CLOVER ACPI patching options). I just thought that a CLOVER option would be nice. Thank for listening and thanks for all the great work that you do for the hacking community! Edited December 5, 2020 by tonyx86 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1010/#findComment-2746258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PG7 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 HP DV6 2140ef intel i5 M430 Nvidia GeForce GT 320M (only graphics on this laptop) atheros ar9285 IDT 92HD75BX (AppleHDA made by @Mirone) CLOVER r5127 with Quirks - I was having trouble updating the Clover since r5116 because if you update and use the config.plist of the higher versions, you enter the system but have a dark screen !!! if you use the r5116 version config.plist you could use up to r5119 and it worked ... but I wanted to pass the new version and I had this problem - so yesterday with @Chris1111 to whom I say THANK YOU he had activated with the GT210 and I asked to be able to check his EFI and found my error! * I even the version that works and even with the steps I indicated before I did NOT use Quirks as everyone knows it did not yet exist in Clover inside the BIOS folder because my bios does NOT support UEFI! - so I used OpenRuntime.efi that was in the UEFI folder and tried to activate it there I already had a signal after doing NVRAM RESET several times (because HP are quite boring to download) I managed to get to the system with 100% full QE / CI - I took advantage and upgraded from Catalina 10.15.5 to 10.15.7 and activated it using the ke11 (PKG Video Legacy) version of Chris1111 which I have been using for a long time due to the ease of complete installation! - I had already apprehended this problem to Jieff, where I now thank him also for everything he has done without forgetting all the others who work together to make all this possible - I leave here some prints to be able to admire this already very old laptop but it is still possible to do a little things and even watch videos in 1080p that he manages perfectly! Google traductor! Spoiler 2 1 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1010/#findComment-2746269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris1111 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, PG7 said: HP DV6 2140ef intel i5 M430 Nvidia GeForce GT 320M (only graphics on this laptop) atheros ar9285 IDT 92HD75BX (AppleHDA made by @Mirone) CLOVER r5127 with Quirks - I was having trouble updating the Clover since r5116 because if you update and use the config.plist of the higher versions, you enter the system but have a dark screen !!! if you use the r5116 version config.plist you could use up to r5119 and it worked ... but I wanted to pass the new version and I had this problem - so yesterday with @Chris1111 to whom I say THANK YOU he had activated with the GT210 and I asked to be able to check his EFI and found my error! * I even the version that works and even with the steps I indicated before I did NOT use Quirks as everyone knows it did not yet exist in Clover inside the BIOS folder because my bios does NOT support UEFI! - so I used OpenRuntime.efi that was in the UEFI folder and tried to activate it there I already had a signal after doing NVRAM RESET several times (because HP are quite boring to download) I managed to get to the system with 100% full QE / CI - I took advantage and upgraded from Catalina 10.15.5 to 10.15.7 and activated it using the ke11 (PKG Video Legacy) version of Chris1111 which I have been using for a long time due to the ease of complete installation! - I had already apprehended this problem to Jieff, where I now thank him also for everything he has done without forgetting all the others who work together to make all this possible - I leave here some prints to be able to admire this already very old laptop but it is still possible to do a little things and even watch videos in 1080p that he manages perfectly! Google traductor! Hide contents Great to ear that Old laptop not dead with Powerfull Clover OC Integration 2 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1010/#findComment-2746270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ameenjuz Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 (edited) i don't get and appear Recovery partition from boot menu in big sur 11.0.1 anyone tell me m i something missing in config clover version Release v5.1 r5127 config.plist Edited December 5, 2020 by Allan Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1010/#findComment-2746277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slice Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 3 hours ago, ameenjuz said: i don't get and appear Recovery partition from boot menu in big sur 11.0.1 anyone tell me m i something missing in config clover version Release v5.1 r5127 config.plist Sorry, still no. This moment Clover is not able to start BigSur recovery. @all Switching from Clover 5119 to 5127 requires inspecting your KextToPatch list. Kext name must be full as I show It can't be just AMDSupport because kext's patches now made by OC which is not able to drive short name vs old Clover. 2 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1010/#findComment-2746282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matgen84 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 @Slice Sorry for stupid question: inject audio layout-id with Clover Z77 Hack: Ivybridge chipset ALC892 (Mojave) Clover r51237 latest commit. I use layout-id=1 via Clover Audio/Inject section ---> sound is OK Z390 Hack: Coffee Lake-R ALC1220 (Big Sur 11.1 Beta 2) Clover r51237 latest commit. I use layout-id=16 via Clover Audio/Inject section ---> No sound except HDMI (via Radeon RX580). To have the sound (line input, etc.), I have to add the boot-args alc-id=16 Why ? 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1010/#findComment-2746287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maclinuxG4 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 strange, HDMI are also detected, but not managed on my CM, it could be broken. We need to understand why so much around HDMI. May be to set off HMDI sounds could be a solution. @Matgen84: i agree, HDMI appears as sounds connector, and depending on imac type with video buffer. so in your case, video and HMDI are linking for well, and CM sounds is to understand (may be broken ?) 1 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1010/#findComment-2746288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kushwavez Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 @Matgen84 could you please post that compiled CLOVERX64.efi? I'll try that too 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1010/#findComment-2746292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matgen84 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 2 hours ago, kushwavez said: @Matgen84 could you please post that compiled CLOVERX64.efi? I'll try that too Done. CLOVERX64.efi.zip 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1010/#findComment-2746300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kushwavez Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 @Matgen84 Notebook 1: ALC255 Audio is working only with Devices/Audio/Inject=17 2020-12-5_12-14-39_CLOVERX64.efi.log Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1010/#findComment-2746303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matgen84 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 28 minutes ago, kushwavez said: @Matgen84 Notebook 1: ALC255 Audio is working only with Devices/Audio/Inject=17 2020-12-5_12-14-39_CLOVERX64.efi.log Thanks @kushwavez Do you mean there is a difference between Clover Audio Injection and AppleALC.kext boot args ! On my Z390 Aorus Master, I use layout-id=16: don't work with Devices/Audio/Inject on Big Sur 11.1 Beta 2, but in the boot-args of Clover's config.plist, it works ! I don't remember if with the old clover, the layout-id is different between the two way (Clover Injection and Alc-id) I don't think. Very strange. 2 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1010/#findComment-2746304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kushwavez Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Oh no! I'm sorry, I didn't explain it well, my bad. It's working either with alcid=17 boot-arg, Properties, and also with Devices/Audio/Inject too. no problems. 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1010/#findComment-2746311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matgen84 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 50 minutes ago, kushwavez said: Oh no! I'm sorry, I didn't explain it well, my bad. It's working either with alcid=17 boot-arg, Properties, and also with Devices/Audio/Inject too. no problems. Thanks. I wonder why is not the same for my Z390 Hack (ALC1220) Now I've to use alcid boot-args. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1010/#findComment-2746316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ameenjuz Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 please provide me latest committed compiled clover i think that team has been fixed Recovery partition in Big Sur to showing recovery partition from boot menu 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1010/#findComment-2746339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris1111 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 24 minutes ago, ameenjuz said: please provide me latest committed compiled clover i think that team has been fixed Recovery partition in Big Sur to showing recovery partition from boot menu Not fix, wait 3 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1010/#findComment-2746340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageAUS Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Is it just me or can AMD systems not build Clover? Can anyone post latest clover for me please. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1010/#findComment-2746393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matgen84 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 19 minutes ago, SavageAUS said: Is it just me or can AMD systems not build Clover? Can anyone post latest clover for me please. I post the CLOVERX64.efi latest commit on page #1025 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/284656-clover-general-discussion/page/1010/#findComment-2746394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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