killbot1000 Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 I thought this would be an interesting topic of discussion, personally, I really dislike the guy, for a multitude of reasons (hes religious, he breaks the law, he lies) what about all of you? 1-10 1 - being crappy as all hell 10 - being amazing Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24130-what-do-you-think-about-president-bush/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
quixos Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 with 1 being absolutely worthless, and 10 being messiah-like? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24130-what-do-you-think-about-president-bush/#findComment-160342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboldinu Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Don't know, don't care. . I don't live in the USA. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24130-what-do-you-think-about-president-bush/#findComment-160347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacApprentice Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 He's not even worth 1, this guy and his surrounding of {censored} brainless people just made the world an unsafe place. Greed for power/money/oil/whatever is bad, and talking about morale when you're like that is taking people for dumbasses. I hope every USA people'll realise that someday... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24130-what-do-you-think-about-president-bush/#findComment-160390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat69410 Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 He's not even worth 1, this guy and his surrounding of {censored} brainless people just made the world an unsafe place. Greed for power/money/oil/whatever is bad, and talking about morale when you're like that is taking people for dumbasses.I hope every USA people'll realise that someday... How exactly did he make the world so unsafe? Terrorists are going to attack America whether we choose to respond to the threat militarily or not. Personally I think he made it somewhat safer, he removed a dictator from power that was killing hundreds of his own citizens, and he installed a democracy so that the people can have choice in what they do and say. Terrorists have always hated America and Americans, there's nothing Bush could have done about that, so you can't say he made the world so unsafe. If anything he's more of a victim of circumstance, who did make some pretty bad decisions (even I'll admit), but had nothing to do with the safety of the world. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24130-what-do-you-think-about-president-bush/#findComment-160460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proteo Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 you can't say he made the world so unsafe Absolutely agree. He's too idiot to do it by his own. It's Condi's, Cheney's, Rumsfeld's etc. fault too. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24130-what-do-you-think-about-president-bush/#findComment-160488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwprod12 Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 President Bush gets a 1. Why? Because he doesnt do anything that makes life better for people in the US. He doesnt even do it by accident. He cant even claim that life being worse in the united states is somehow a side effect of good policy. President Bush has gone out of his way to make America suck. And I cant wait until someone comes along and starts making this country rock again. $5 says that President Bush will refuse to step down at the end of his term. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24130-what-do-you-think-about-president-bush/#findComment-160509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superhai Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 How exactly did he make the world so unsafe? Well, quoting "Either are you with us or against us" declared a shift in realtions against US among the common people of most part of the rest of the world. Many who originally were neutral, suddenly had to take side. And many terrorist groups around the world don't hate americans (but of course the americans wouldn't call them terrorists, maybe freedom fighters or something like that) many of them are or were supported by US intelligence services (mostly because they fight against groups that targets american interests)... And in iraq, althoug maybe good intentions on the surface, but in effect he installed a civil war. He refused all advice both from the neighbors of iraq and many of US allies, even within US. And claiming iraq to be big threat to the world, when in the war in iraq in 92, there were no resistance and the attacks on like israel hardly was able to deliver at all. And when USA is interfering in countries without backing from the majority of other countries of the world (and with reasons which are false or made up), they have to expect a fear from other countries or groups of people who think they might be next (and i don't talk about north korea or iran, there are lots of others as well). And fear brings hostilitity. Hostility will eventually lead to hostile actions and war. But it is not Bush only who is to blame... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24130-what-do-you-think-about-president-bush/#findComment-160537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
altaskier11 Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 1 because that's about as high as he can count, and I'd like him to be able to understand my vote. Don't know, don't care. . I don't live in the USA. You should care, because if you keep that attitude up, next thing you know your government is linked with al-Qaeda and your the leader of a terror cell. $5 says that President Bush will refuse to step down at the end of his term. Not if the next person elected is Cheney and he is VP (it'll just make the current situation official). Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24130-what-do-you-think-about-president-bush/#findComment-160601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technobob Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 I had to vote 1 because you did not offer the option to vote a big fat zero I hate the man for his one sided agenda, he cares more about war then taking care of the people who are losing their jobs, putting food on the table, keeping a roof over their head. I hope he loses big time in the next election. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24130-what-do-you-think-about-president-bush/#findComment-160633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james2mart Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 I hope he loses big time in the next election. People who think Bush is up for the next election don't even deserve to vote. He can't run for President next term. Welcome to American Democracy. People may not like Bush, but he's alot better than Gore or Kerry, and Clinton. Clinton cheated on his wife (the person he supposedly "loves" the most) and lied about it in front of the nation. You can't really get more dishonest than that. And if he went behind her back, he would go behind the nations back. Clinton was an idiot. Gore..... He invented the internet remember? Kerry tried to say that Bush lost 1 million jobs --- without also saying that he ADDED 6.5 million --- which equals out to about 5.5 million, which is above what was planned. so Kerry sucks at math. No other president has had to deal with the events that Bush has. He has had one of the hardest presidencies since the civil war. I think he's done a heck of a job holding it together --- but he could have done better. Here's your 8/10, Bush. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24130-what-do-you-think-about-president-bush/#findComment-160666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
killbot1000 Posted August 10, 2006 Author Share Posted August 10, 2006 People who think Bush is up for the next election don't even deserve to vote. He can't run for President next term. Welcome to American Democracy. People may not like Bush, but he's alot better than Gore or Kerry, and Clinton. Clinton cheated on his wife (the person he supposedly "loves" the most) and lied about it in front of the nation. You can't really get more dishonest than that. And if he went behind her back, he would go behind the nations back. Clinton was an idiot. Gore..... He invented the internet remember? Kerry tried to say that Bush lost 1 million jobs --- without also saying that he ADDED 6.5 million --- which equals out to about 5.5 million, which is above what was planned. so Kerry sucks at math. No other president has had to deal with the events that Bush has. He has had one of the hardest presidencies since the civil war. I think he's done a heck of a job holding it together --- but he could have done better. Here's your 8/10, Bush. this is absolute {censored}, clinton was not a bad president, sure he cheated on his wife, but so does every president, its not the nations business to know his sex life, only how hes doing his job, and he did it quite well, he balanced the budget, and he didnt discard the rest of the world, some of the world actually liked us back then, because he was such a carismatic guy. Bush may have "gained" another 5.5 million jobs, but they are all low paying {censored} jobs, replaced from the 1 million good jobs. The gap between rich and poor continues to widen, alot of this is due to president Bush's policies... Gore has said some pretty stupid things, but all of the things hes said have had no effect on the nation, they havent caused the rest of the world to hate us, they havent caused holy war against us...I can live with "i invented the internet" "no you didnt". Oh boo hoo, his presidency is hard, most of the "events" of which you speak he brought on himself, Id say FDR had a harder time being president than bush, he had a depression, WWII, and being in a wheelchair, it doesnt get much harder than that. Kerry is kind of a slimeball, but atleast hes half intelligent, that goes a long way in a leader, I hated kerry and bush, frankly, Id vote for john mckain, simply because he strikes me as honest, and somebody who has a chance to be freed from a POW camp and decides to stay with his men anyway is OK by me... Bush isnt a very good president at all, not because I dont like him (even though I dont) but because no president has done more to undermine the constitution (except maybe andrew jackson). I mean look at us, we have wiretapping, we have the patriot act, our freedoms are slowly being taken away one by one, all in the name of "safety", we're trillions of dollars in debt, fighting in a country that we created (yes we created it, dont make a mistake about that, we're the ones who put saddam in power). You call THAT being a good president? then go to hell Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24130-what-do-you-think-about-president-bush/#findComment-160715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conroe Mac Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Yeah, Bush isn't very bright. It's amazing how we could have the father and then the son. It just goes to show you how money and connections control the world's most powerful country. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24130-what-do-you-think-about-president-bush/#findComment-160736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swad Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Are we comparing to other presidents to get these numbers? If so, I'd place him around 7, +1 or -1 depending on how things look in 50 years. He's certainly been above average in most respects, even if he's made a lot of mistakes. A "1" would be like Andrew Johnson. I'd say average would be Jimmy Carter. FYI, most historians say that Washington, Jefferson, Jackson, Lincoln, both Roosevelts, Kennedy, and Reagan are at the top of American presidents. I think Bush definitely had the chance to be among that group - time will tell if he is or not. We've still got 2 more years... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24130-what-do-you-think-about-president-bush/#findComment-160738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
killbot1000 Posted August 10, 2006 Author Share Posted August 10, 2006 Yeah, Bush isn't very bright. It's amazing how we could have the father and then the son. It just goes to show you how money and connections control the world's most powerful country. Next, we'll have the holy spirit as our president hahah can I get an amen? jk Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24130-what-do-you-think-about-president-bush/#findComment-160746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james2mart Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Are we comparing to other presidents to get these numbers? Amen. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24130-what-do-you-think-about-president-bush/#findComment-160750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
killbot1000 Posted August 10, 2006 Author Share Posted August 10, 2006 Yes, we are comparing compare away... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24130-what-do-you-think-about-president-bush/#findComment-160752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwprod12 Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 First of all. Gore said (I'm paraphrasing) "When I was in the senate, I was instrumental in passing legislation that created the internet". That's actually truish, since what he actually did was introduce legislation passing the ARPAnet from government control to the public domain, as it were. Clinton cheated on his wife. So what? He also used word magic to tell the truth while actually avoiding it entirely. Big deal. The war on terror has, at it's most liberal interpretation, killed roughly 6000 Americans. If the war on terror is really going to trump WWI, WWII, the Korean and Vietnam Wars and the Great Depression as the "most trying time in american history", I'd expect to hear more wailing and see more wringing of hands. Pfft. Let's be honest. The only thing that terrorism is actually killing is American society. And most of the murder or our reality is being orchestrated from the Oval Office. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24130-what-do-you-think-about-president-bush/#findComment-160801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat69410 Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Let's be honest. The only thing that terrorism is actually killing is American society. And most of the murder or our reality is being orchestrated from the Oval Office. Right... So the terrorists that flew planes into the World Trade Center on 9/11 just killed American Society. Or the terrorists that were arrested in London today, that were planning to use 11 planes with similar purposes were just out to kill American Society. That's rich. Terrorism isn't just killing off American Society, it's killing real people. This isn't just a fairy tale to put little children in bed, there are people dying every day because of terrorists and people who hate America. Oh and please don't tell me you're like that professor from Wisconsin who believes that the U.S Government orchestrated 9/11, because that's {censored} too. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24130-what-do-you-think-about-president-bush/#findComment-160853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwprod12 Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Yah, um. The Bush administration is murdering american society. All to fight "terrorists". People die every day from hunger. Go do something about that. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24130-what-do-you-think-about-president-bush/#findComment-160855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james2mart Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 we just got source from apple for 10.4.7 kernel. go do something about that.... j/k aside from all ruthlessness, the media made a big deal about soldiers not finding WMDs in iraq. when they did find some (~500 biological weapons to my knowledge), the media basically never notified the american public. Point being, never trust the media. Or if you decide to trust them, trust them very conservatively, because the truth is far far away. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24130-what-do-you-think-about-president-bush/#findComment-160862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Nonny Moose Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Thank you everyone on here who decided to turn this topic into an "I hate Bush more" screaming match. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24130-what-do-you-think-about-president-bush/#findComment-160864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat69410 Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 People die every day from hunger. Go do something about that. And what the hell could Bush do about that. His job was to protect America, not feed the hungry in other parts of the world. If you want something done on that, go ask the UN. (On second thought, don't, because they'll just draft resolutions that everyone will ignore anyway) And you never explained how Bush is murdering American Society. And if we really want to compare Presidents now, Bush is killing Society so much more than Clinton on the other hand, who taught society how to cheat on his wife, lie to the media and the courtroom, and get away with it. Wow, what wonderful lessons our society is learning. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24130-what-do-you-think-about-president-bush/#findComment-160870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwprod12 Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 I'm gonna take a pass on responding to you Wildcat, cause anything I'd say would have something to do with mental retardation. James2smart: I havent heard anything about 500 biological weapons etc. If you heard about it... where did you hear about it from if the media covered it up? I have however heard of a "mobile biological weapons facility" praised up and down by the military and Bush administration as vindication... which turned out to be a weather balloon launching station. (IIRC) http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...6041101888.html Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24130-what-do-you-think-about-president-bush/#findComment-160876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat69410 Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 I'm gonna take a pass on responding to you Wildcat, cause anything I'd say would have something to do with mental retardation. Get over insulting me, if you don't have anything intelligent to say, then just don't bother saying it. Unfortunately for you, I guess that means you'll have to stop making a lot of posts. Oh, and btw, way to go quoting one of the most liberal media outlets in the USA apart from the New York Times. The Washington Post is utter {censored}. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24130-what-do-you-think-about-president-bush/#findComment-160891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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