jiggy Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 Would you subscribe to microsoft onecare? I find it absolutely ridiculous that are computers are unsafe and microsoft are offering such products. why the hell cant they provide it for free? afterall, if it would help their reputation then it would benefit them!!!! why dont they? why? because they are a greedy, monopolistic, money orientted company. yes, they want to make huge profit, but why cant they help themselves by helping us? maybe if they were more in to developement rather than distribution, they would not have to have days like'patch tuesday' to say bill gates dosnt want to be the richest man, what the hell is he doing with Microsoft? making it more and more profitable and dominant - taking advantage of this! creating more legal problems for them - with adobe end of rant!! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/18999-what-the-is-with-microsoft/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevermind1331 Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 bill gates donates more money than anyone in the world. and i think close to 3/4 of his income (the endowment isnt the only thing). that being said he doesnt really have that much to do with the company anymore. also onecare is only 30 dollars and happens to be a very good piece of software. while there code has holes, do you think if the code was on par with osx there wouldnt be viruses? i dont believe so. its microsoft trying to integrate an excellent solution so the average user (if your reading this i dont mean you) does not need to understand anything and can still be protected. to say they are greedy for this, i wont agree. now, if you ask me if they are greedy for charging 200 ****ing dollars for microsoft word. i may agree. also, to be fair microsoft has run into problems for providing things with windows for free, so they really cant be all to blame. im not a windows fan, and im not a big microsoft fan, but companies are made to make money, even when they have already made billions and billions Would you subscribe to microsoft onecare? I find it absolutely ridiculous that are computers are unsafe and microsoft are offering such products. why the hell cant they provide it for free? afterall, if it would help their reputation then it would benefit them!!!! why dont they? why? because they are a greedy, monopolistic, money orientted company. yes, they want to make huge profit, but why cant they help themselves by helping us? maybe if they were more in to developement rather than distribution, they would not have to have days like'patch tuesday' to say bill gates dosnt want to be the richest man, what the hell is he doing with Microsoft? making it more and more profitable and dominant - taking advantage of this! creating more legal problems for them - with adobe end of rant!! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/18999-what-the-is-with-microsoft/#findComment-126024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dponmac Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 I think part of the reason why MS charges for their programs instead or bundling it into their OS or for free at that, is because the people the "borrow" the idea from come after them with an Anti-trust suit. For example, Office 2007 was going to come with its own PDF writer. Adobe threatened to sue if they didn't take it out of office2007 and charge for it separately http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1970866,00.asp Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/18999-what-the-is-with-microsoft/#findComment-126797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonajona Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 I think part of the reason why MS charges for their programs instead or bundling it into their OS or for free at that, is because the people the "borrow" the idea from come after them with an Anti-trust suit. For example, Office 2007 was going to come with its own PDF writer. Adobe threatened to sue if they didn't take it out of office2007 and charge for it separately http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1970866,00.asp Very true indeed, which pisses me off because OSX has a built in PDF writer and Adobe doesn't say {censored} about it. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/18999-what-the-is-with-microsoft/#findComment-127571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwprod12 Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 Why should they? Apple has a tiny market share. Also, Adobe knows that anyone who buys an apple probably doesnt have any money left for software ;-p Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/18999-what-the-is-with-microsoft/#findComment-127580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asoulintime1982 Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 I bought Onecare when it was 19.99 you had to be in the beta program to get that price. I think its the best AV software I have ever used. It don't slow the system down like many others it works well. And the price is great. Its 49.99 for 3 PCs unlike other that are the same price for 1 PC. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/18999-what-the-is-with-microsoft/#findComment-131636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammjet Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 Very true indeed, which pisses me off because OSX has a built in PDF writer and Adobe doesn't say {censored} about it. Apple pays a licensing fee. The Quartz graphic system is based on PDF just like its predecessor NeXT had a graphic system based in Postscript. That's right, unless you are running OpenGL, you are looking at one big PDF graphic. From the Apple website: From its PDF-based Quartz windowing system... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/18999-what-the-is-with-microsoft/#findComment-131637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
unixguru Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 Apple pays a licensing fee. The Quartz graphic system is based on PDF just like its predecessor NeXT had a graphic system based in Postscript. That's right, unless you are running OpenGL, you are looking at one big PDF graphic. From the Apple website: Actually this is wrong. PDF is royalty-free. In fact, it has been suggested that the reason Apple moved from display Postscript to display PDF is that Adobe wanted too much money in licensing fees. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/18999-what-the-is-with-microsoft/#findComment-135083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
unixguru Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 Very true indeed, which pisses me off because OSX has a built in PDF writer and Adobe doesn't say {censored} about it. At first I thought Chizen was nuts, but then I saw what he may be seeing. Office has the lion's share of its market. But it's expensive as hell. If you want to put something on the Internet so everyone can read it, you do PDF. Anybody can implement PDF because it's an open standard and documented. Users like the fact that they can get a free reader (not just from Adobe). Microsoft must really hate that, because you're not using their software to open it, and you don't even need to buy their software to open it. So they do a "cut off their air supply" like they did with netscape. Eliminate the income for the competition, embrace PDF, then extend it in a proprietary way. Embrace, extend, extinguish. And after that's all done, jack up the price of office, because now more people can't do without it. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/18999-what-the-is-with-microsoft/#findComment-135097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwprod12 Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 What applications write in PDF format? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/18999-what-the-is-with-microsoft/#findComment-135099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdwl Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 in OS X all apps write pdf - just click 'save as pdf' in the print dialog. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/18999-what-the-is-with-microsoft/#findComment-135128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnniecarcinogen Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 It would be illegal for Microsoft to offer 'onecare' for free. It would hurt companies like Symantec and McAfee. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/18999-what-the-is-with-microsoft/#findComment-135367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantalaimon Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 what about picassa? it hurts iphoto Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/18999-what-the-is-with-microsoft/#findComment-138137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFNITE Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 Picassa is Windows only, iPhoto is OS X only Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/18999-what-the-is-with-microsoft/#findComment-138189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 Picassa is Windows only, iPhoto is OS X only Picassa isn't Windows only. Google has a Linux port as well. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/18999-what-the-is-with-microsoft/#findComment-138278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFNITE Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 still, there's no iPhoto on Linux Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/18999-what-the-is-with-microsoft/#findComment-138287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwhsh8r Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 they gave me the onecare as a beta package, and gave me a discount because i was a tester, i still didnt buy it... i hate that and norton! kaspersky or panda all the way (+ adaware se and spybot s & d) max Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/18999-what-the-is-with-microsoft/#findComment-145541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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