bean5 Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 just curious, why does the build use 800mhz ram...wouldn't faster ram be better? I'm not hardware savvy over here. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/56/#findComment-1436968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeaderDesslok Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 What is your exact install method? The problem is most likely that you are using an HDMI monitor. Would love to know how you got it working under 10.6.2 as there were problems with DVI-HDMI that I thought was not resolved. Might need to see how the Netkas PCEFI that was recently released will work for your setup. Just replace the Boot file to change it. OK. So I installed the Netkas PCEFI boof file and rebooted. All was well. So, then I ran the 10.6.3 update using software update (instead of combo just for convenience) Restarted, and now I'm really buggered. It's stuck at a blinking cursor: \ _ It does this now for my main HD that I upgraded to 10.6.3, BUT ALSO for my thumbdrive installer that I used to install SL in the first place, as well as a USB backup drive that I was previously able to boot from. It's blowing my mind because neither of those drives were altered in any way. It's like something got changed in the BIOS or something. I'm totally stuck.Could it be that all of my drives got magically unblessed? I've tried resetting the BIOS, but it doesn't help. Ack. Any help would be hugely appreciated. Thanks!!! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/56/#findComment-1436974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHERETOSTAY Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 To JBolted : The V3 installer messes up my install... I really don't know why but my comp is a lot slower after installing it... Geekbench : 6500 to 3000 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/56/#findComment-1436978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason C Allen Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 I've been using all the software you mention without any issue. I, however, am not using a RAID set up. Is the RAID your boot disk or a scratch for FCP? As you may know, it is a bad idea to have FCP use your main drive as scratch space. -Ed I'm using my external Firewire800 drive as Capture Scratch and source for the P2 files... I tried trashing the FCP preferences folder and the usual other simple fixes like that (for getting the hiccups out of FCP on a real Mac Pro) to no avail. I'm reinstalling FCP tomorrow after getting SnowLeopard 10.6.3 up and running and then I'll iron that one out. Good thought checking the capture scratch issue! That one hung me up a while ago and caused some big headaches in FCP5 on a lesser machine Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/56/#findComment-1437068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbolted Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 To JBolted : The V3 installer messes up my install... I really don't know why but my comp is a lot slower after installing it... Geekbench : 6500 to 3000 Are you using the same motherboard, memory & an nvidea card (if so what card)? I'm just guessing here what your build is. In your signature list your entire build ( all the components) and someone here will probably be able to help you. Some people may have changed kext files since running the V3 installer, or used different components that are not working with the specific dsdt file that was created for the lifehacker build. BIOS can always be a tricky thing regardless, its the very nature of the beast, but as long as it updates with no errors, you are fine. Version 1.6 boards are the ones that use the 2 letter designation for BIOS FB, FD, FE as examples. Version 1.1 and 1.0 boards use F10, F9, F8, as an example, a letter followed by a number. Hi SBMac, I'm fine here on the update. I know I have a Version 1.6 mb because i looked for that before i installed it (on the corner of the board itself). What I am having trouble finding is the bios letters, I dont know where to look for them. When I start up the computer it runs through so fast I can't visually catch anything it just zips through so fast. Is there a way to puase the startup to find what version of the bios I have? If not for now it would certanly be helpful for the future. Just updated via software update from 10.6.2 to 10.6.3.... omg, I better check my skivvies, I damn near shart my drawers. All is working fine I was hoping to gain a little lower temp but still idling at 54C topps at 65 running handbrake but it is working. My HDMI monitor still works using the HD connection. One thing I was never able to do in firefox is to go back and edit my typing I never get a curser or anything showing a space on the keyboard, but this is definately related only to the firefox browser on my setup anyway. Both Opera and Safari dont do this. But I'm not complaining all is well so far, will do more checking & report and abnormalties. I did this with me balls in the wind too, I still didnt set up a backup system, even though I installed another harddrive. But I figured woirse comes to worse if this didnt work I would have just put in my thumb drive and formatted the new disk with the V3 on it. thanks to everyone for all your help, especially Adam & Stell! Jbolted Why not just run the V3 installer to your hard drive, it has all the fixes in it already once you start pulling kexts out and putting different kexts in your moving away from the original install method for your motherboard. when they updated the installer to V3 if fixed most all of the problems V2 was having after the software update to 10.6.2 Correction so as not to confuse people, my monitor is hooked up to the DVI connector not the HDMI connector sorry for any confusion on that. To JBolted : The V3 installer messes up my install... I really don't know why but my comp is a lot slower after installing it... Geekbench : 6500 to 3000 Yah, somethings not right there yet. I just did the 64 geekbench test and got: 6480 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/56/#findComment-1437094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacTech84 Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Hi SBMac, I'm fine here on the update. I know I have a Version 1.6 mb because i looked for that before i installed it (on the corner of the board itself). What I am having trouble finding is the bios letters, I dont know where to look for them. When I start up the computer it runs through so fast I can't visually catch anything it just zips through so fast. Is there a way to puase the startup to find what version of the bios I have? If not for now it would certanly be helpful for the future. If you have the POST screen setup as you boot, versus the Gigabyte splash page on boot, the BIOS version you have on the board will be right next to where it shows EP45-UD3P in the upper left hand corner. Should be plenty of time for you to see that and see which one you have. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/56/#findComment-1437171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bean5 Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 lets say FE doesn't work for me, how do I go back to FB? and bump on the ram question. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/56/#findComment-1437192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAVEC Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Speaking of installing V3 and deleting Extra folders. I'm running beautifully on the old Halloween V.2 installer. I don't suppose there is any compelling reason to install V.3? Speaking of 10.6.3 and V.3. Is there a way to go back to 10.6.2 and do I need to be at V.3 before updating to 10.6.3? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/56/#findComment-1437575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacTech84 Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 lets say FE doesn't work for me, how do I go back to FB? and bump on the ram question. You would just need to go to gigabyte's website, download the FB Bios, extract it from the .exe file (DUMB way to do it) then put it on a flash drive and re-flash your board. Speaking of 10.6.3 and V.3. Is there a way to go back to 10.6.2 and do I need to be at V.3 before updating to 10.6.3? Definitely do the V.3 installer before updating just for compatibility, I have not tried the v.2 installer. If you need to go back, you can always do a system re-install to replace OS X from the disc then update to 10.6.2 by getting the combo updater from Apple's site. I recommend doing the system replacement from disc, because with 10.6 Apple introduced a new feature where if you had to re-install, Any new updates would not be replaced. The installer will auto-detect the newer files and keep them. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/56/#findComment-1437685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacWannaBe Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Speaking of 10.6.3 and V.3. Is there a way to go back to 10.6.2 and do I need to be at V.3 before updating to 10.6.3? I don't know how you are running 10.6.2 and V2, unless you removed the sleepenabler or updated it to the one that works with 10.6.2. V3 doesn't have sleepenabler so it's more update friendly. Sleepenabler is dependent on the kernel version. In 10.6.2 and also in 10.6.3, Apple updated the kernel version so you would need to have the one that matches. V3 is the easier way to go in my opinion. -Ed Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/56/#findComment-1437686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHERETOSTAY Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 To SBMac: I restored the Snow Leopard.dmg to an external HDD, installed V2 on it... I then booted from this HDD and installed to an internal HDD... I booted to the said hdd and installed v2 (or v3 depending)... With v2, crazy fast, with v3, hyper slow... that's it, same procedure but really slower... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/56/#findComment-1437694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathpulse Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 I have a really dumb question - I have been surfing the 70 or so pages of this thread and I noticed that some people have been able to get the proceedure to work with a Radeon 4870 512mb card... this is my set up, but whenever I try Lifehacker's method of installation, the system black screens on bootup and freezes. Can anyone give me a really simple method to use the Radeon 4870 card with the lifehacker installation method? Thanks all! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/56/#findComment-1437716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bean5 Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 deathpulse, the thing is that the lifehacker method is dependent on using certain components, mainly the motherboard, cpu and VIDEO CARD. You can't use the lifehacker method and expect it to work with different parts. That's why you're getting the black screen, this method is for nvidia cards. Unless someone around here can guide you, the best advice you'll probably get is to google your video card model with osx86 and see what pops up. so no reply on why 800mhz ram is used instead of 1066+mhz? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/56/#findComment-1437778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
backinmac Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 deathpulse, the thing is that the lifehacker method is dependent on using certain components, mainly the motherboard, cpu and VIDEO CARD. You can't use the lifehacker method and expect it to work with different parts. That's why you're getting the black screen, this method is for nvidia cards. Unless someone around here can guide you, the best advice you'll probably get is to google your video card model with osx86 and see what pops up. so no reply on why 800mhz ram is used instead of 1066+mhz? I think that it was just Adam Pash's original choice for ram. Stell himself way back in the thread said that any ram that fits the mobo will work. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/56/#findComment-1437850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbolted Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 If you have the POST screen setup as you boot, versus the Gigabyte splash page on boot, the BIOS version you have on the board will be right next to where it shows EP45-UD3P in the upper left hand corner. Should be plenty of time for you to see that and see which one you have. SBMac, Thanks for that info. Although there was not more than a fraction of a secong by me knowing where to look I did finally find it. Right next to the EP45-UD3P it says "FB". I noticed on your sig you have FE, now since everything is working it probably makes no sense for me to change it, although maybe I would get a better temp reading. My HS/Fan are in correctly I used the artic silver after carefully removing the stock pad that was on it, & definately learned how to properly clip in the stock fan, so that is not my problem. Maybe I need a custom cooler I don't know. I know this isnt the thread for flashing bios', so if you could be kind enough to point me in the right direction I will gladly put in the research to learn how to do it, if it is even nesessary being that everything does work as is now. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/56/#findComment-1437851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
codymac Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 so no reply on why 800mhz ram is used instead of 1066+mhz? When the guide was written, 800mhz was a good bit cheaper. For those of you running FE: Does "About this Mac" crash Finder? I'm sorting a few little issues from a reinstall due to a crash during the 10.6.3 update. eta: Answered my own question. FE was causing Finder to crash, back on FB now and running fine. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/56/#findComment-1437877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
backinmac Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Just wanted to let everyone know that FB Bios works fine with 10.6.3. I may update my Bios anyway, just because I can. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/56/#findComment-1437975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathpulse Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Thanks Bean! I'll try and piece it together . If anyone has a quick way to deal with the Radeon card - pls let me know. deathpulse, the thing is that the lifehacker method is dependent on using certain components, mainly the motherboard, cpu and VIDEO CARD. You can't use the lifehacker method and expect it to work with different parts. That's why you're getting the black screen, this method is for nvidia cards. Unless someone around here can guide you, the best advice you'll probably get is to google your video card model with osx86 and see what pops up. so no reply on why 800mhz ram is used instead of 1066+mhz? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/56/#findComment-1438051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketLynx Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 I did the 10.6.3 Update today. I'm using Adam Pash's Lifehacker complete hardware list up until now without any problems. After the update to 10.6.3, all worked correctly except the screen savers. None would work or start on their own. If I set a Hot Corner and then activated it with the mouse, the screen saver would start. Also, if I clicked the test button in the screen saver setup it would work, however, it would never start on it's own after the minutes timed out. The sleep mode still works. I have it set for say 25 minutes and it would activate putting the display to sleep as it should. A wiggle of the mouse or press of the keyboard and it wakes up correctly. Only the screen saver has failed after the 10.6.3 update. Any suggestions? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/56/#findComment-1438062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bean5 Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 I have that problem from time to time with my macbook pro...just an apple quirk I guess. edit: updated to 10.6.3 and everything seems fine. It reset my color profile so I had to reselect it, but other than that, seems fine. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/56/#findComment-1438115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacTech84 Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 so no reply on why 800mhz ram is used instead of 1066+mhz? I have fiddled with this myself and I think there is a good reason for it. I played around with 8, yes 8 different kinds of 1066+ memory and found it to be very unstable. Even tweaking the mobo to put more voltage to it for the greater requirements, anything over 2.1 volts is just bad, and its hard to find high clock memory at low voltages. I have my OCZ SLI ready DDR2 800 and have been happy since Maybe something in the new FE BIOS will fix this, as it is listed as offering greater memory compatibility. I know this isnt the thread for flashing bios', so if you could be kind enough to point me in the right direction I will gladly put in the research to learn how to do it, if it is even nesessary being that everything does work as is now. Its pretty easy, just download the FE BIOS from gigabyte, unpack it from the .exe (dumb as hell to do that) then put it on a flash drive. Boot the Flash utility and select the FE BIOS to update, if you want to go back, same process, and I would download both at the same time just to have them already on your flash drive. When the guide was written, 800mhz was a good bit cheaper. For those of you running FE: Does "About this Mac" crash Finder? I'm sorting a few little issues from a reinstall due to a crash during the 10.6.3 update. eta: Answered my own question. FE was causing Finder to crash, back on FB now and running fine. Weird you are having the crash, I have actually never once had this crash on me when I check it. Have you had this happen off of a clean install? Just wanted to let everyone know that FB Bios works fine with 10.6.3. I may update my Bios anyway, just because I can. I am with you on that, I like to just to see sometimes, and its nice to know that with gigabyte boards you can go back more easily then some others I did the 10.6.3 Update today. I'm using Adam Pash's Lifehacker complete hardware list up until now without any problems. After the update to 10.6.3, all worked correctly except the screen savers. None would work or start on their own. If I set a Hot Corner and then activated it with the mouse, the screen saver would start. Also, if I clicked the test button in the screen saver setup it would work, however, it would never start on it's own after the minutes timed out. The sleep mode still works. I have it set for say 25 minutes and it would activate putting the display to sleep as it should. A wiggle of the mouse or press of the keyboard and it wakes up correctly. Only the screen saver has failed after the 10.6.3 update. Any suggestions? I have had this quirk from 10.6.2 even when doing a clean install. Keep checking and/or resetting your energy setting such as screen timeout, and time for the screen saver to begin, I cant remember what I did last time, but I will test and see what happens. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/56/#findComment-1438130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbolted Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 I have fiddled with this myself and I think there is a good reason for it. I played around with 8, yes 8 different kinds of 1066+ memory and found it to be very unstable. Even tweaking the mobo to put more voltage to it for the greater requirements, anything over 2.1 volts is just bad, and its hard to find high clock memory at low voltages. I have my OCZ SLI ready DDR2 800 and have been happy since Maybe something in the new FE BIOS will fix this, as it is listed as offering greater memory compatibility. Its pretty easy, just download the FE BIOS from gigabyte, unpack it from the .exe (dumb as hell to do that) then put it on a flash drive. Boot the Flash utility and select the FE BIOS to update, if you want to go back, same process, and I would download both at the same time just to have them already on your flash drive. Weird you are having the crash, I have actually never once had this crash on me when I check it. Have you had this happen off of a clean install? I am with you on that, I like to just to see sometimes, and its nice to know that with gigabyte boards you can go back more easily then some others I have had this quirk from 10.6.2 even when doing a clean install. Keep checking and/or resetting your energy setting such as screen timeout, and time for the screen saver to begin, I cant remember what I did last time, but I will test and see what happens. To SBMac, Thank you for that info on the bios. So.. so far I went to the gigabyte website, got the Bios I have in there now "fb", & also got the new one "FE". I'm not gonna mess with it just yet. You know the old sayin 'if it aint broke, don't fix it' But it is good to have in case, & in the mean time I can research on how to unpack an .exe file from a mac. I'm not really windoze literate. But my nephew is gonna bring me a version of windows (not sure which one yet, & I'm gonna put a windows version on my spare drive I installed and have not even formatted yet. I'm guessing if I ever get into trouble on my hackintosh drive with a windows on the other drive, I could probably at least boot into that to fix my hack drive if ever need be. From reading this forum the easiest scenario is to unplug my hack drive from the mb. then just install a windows version on the other HD, then plug back in my hack drive and just go from the boot loader to choose what OS to boot into. I noticed on the gigabyte website they have flashing apps, but naturally not for macs. that would probably cost them a ton of lawyer fees if they ever did that. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/56/#findComment-1438159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAVEC Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 I don't know how you are running 10.6.2 and V2, unless you removed the sleepenabler or updated it to the one that works with 10.6.2. V3 doesn't have sleepenabler so it's more update friendly. Sleepenabler is dependent on the kernel version. In 10.6.2 and also in 10.6.3, Apple updated the kernel version so you would need to have the one that matches. V3 is the easier way to go in my opinion. -Ed Then I must already be at V.3. Is Halloween V.3 or V.2 because I upgraded to Halloween just before going to 10.6.2. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/56/#findComment-1438186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacTech84 Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Then I must already be at V.3. Is Halloween V.3 or V.2 because I upgraded to Halloween just before going to 10.6.2. V.2 of the installer is the halloween installer, V.3 is the one to use when updating to 10.6.2 and what is becoming apparent in 10.6.3 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/56/#findComment-1438194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
backinmac Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Has 10.6.3 killed anyone else's sound? I've heard that AppleHDA doesn't work under 10.6.3. (Obviously not under this thread, but kexts are universal, aren't they?) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/187440-lifehacker-guide-with-ga-ep45-ud3p-motherboard/page/56/#findComment-1438705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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