tehnick Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Is there any hope for this fixing the dreaded "mouse bug" for AMD dual-core processors? It's outlined here: http://www.infinitemac.com/showthread.php?t=734 To summarise this for future reference; it is not a 'mouse bug' per se, but a dual core timing issue. Symptoms include: • Mouse lag - early signs are drag and drop inaccuracies, trail skipping • GUI lag - Finder window movement becomes choppy and acceleration degrades • Random restarts - caused by the 'divide by zero' error resulting in kernel panic • -10810 error - applications will not start until a restart or log out/in • increased CPU fan noise and temperatures - due to dual core synchronisation errors • general erratic behaviour - system feels sluggish, unresponsive at times Remedy (Temporary) • Boot using the 'cpus=1' kernel flag - this can be done at the beginning of each boot at the Darwin boot prompt, or permanently by editing the com.apple.boot.plist which can be found in: /Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/ That is by far the biggest set back for running OSX on AMD dating back from the very first releases; and there is still no fix. I'm thinking this has something to do with the kernel. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127896-the-care-feeding-of-xnu/page/2/#findComment-907708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech264 Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 This was a very good read. I felt like I was in the Matrix 4 with all the kernel, etc.. jargon. If this ever goes commercial at least I can say I was part of the history and read it here first. Good interview and nice to see regular folk so dedicated to the cause. Much respect to the developers. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127896-the-care-feeding-of-xnu/page/2/#findComment-907731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naruto Uzumaki Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 This is simply amazing. now I can finally run OSx on my {censored} HP AMD computer and have a better performance than XP. YAY NO MORE VIRUSES FOR ME BABY! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127896-the-care-feeding-of-xnu/page/2/#findComment-907816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xaiev Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Which release of leopard do I need to try this kernel, 10.5.4/10.5.5 ? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127896-the-care-feeding-of-xnu/page/2/#findComment-908071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
U.C. Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Awesome. This has to be great news for all of us. This should help so many people with Asus EEE Pc's running slow on battery. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127896-the-care-feeding-of-xnu/page/2/#findComment-909366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwhsh8r Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Awesome work! this is one of the most promising new projects ive seen in a while. cant wait to see what comes of it Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127896-the-care-feeding-of-xnu/page/2/#findComment-909610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabron Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 my system goes booting again with 15 secs and back the support to sleep and awake like was done in tiger with the droped 9.4.0 voodoo beta1 kernel also everything just runs faster as hell without choppy animations i just cant wait for 9.5.0 final with system.kext this is masterful voodoo for president now Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127896-the-care-feeding-of-xnu/page/2/#findComment-909685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcook Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Just set my system up with alpha 13. Noticeable performance increase on my system (see sig); most importantly to me, OpenGL performance is up ~35fps in the XBench test. Haven't tried any real-world graphics yet though. Looking forward to final . Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127896-the-care-feeding-of-xnu/page/2/#findComment-910198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~pcwiz Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Amazing work voodoo team! Haven't tested it myself or updated to 10.5.5 yet for that matter but I'm eagerly awaiting to try it. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127896-the-care-feeding-of-xnu/page/2/#findComment-910313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_D Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Also went and test-drove the latest Alpha 13 - extraordinary, that's all I can say! Been using an MSI 975X platinum (first release) with an older dual core (NOT core 2 duo) intel - I've always had sleep and shutting down issues. With this kernel - all problems gone, and the system seems to be significantly faster - will update to 10.5.5 now. Thanks to the XNU developers, fantastic work this. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127896-the-care-feeding-of-xnu/page/2/#findComment-910596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zandera Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Works for Pentium D Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127896-the-care-feeding-of-xnu/page/2/#findComment-910883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhefe Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 unreal news thanx for the info Can not wait to get home,download, and patch my system Thank You for All Your hard work Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127896-the-care-feeding-of-xnu/page/2/#findComment-911098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
InferiorYeast Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 first the speedstep kext and now this. Simply amazing!!! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127896-the-care-feeding-of-xnu/page/2/#findComment-911640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FavleX Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 great work! I'm happy ! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127896-the-care-feeding-of-xnu/page/2/#findComment-912230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shredplayer Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Voodoo 9.5.0 kernel work awesome on my 10.5.5 SSE2 system. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127896-the-care-feeding-of-xnu/page/2/#findComment-912533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbert75 Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Just wanted to say thanks from the bottom of my dell... amazing stuff still going on with this community! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127896-the-care-feeding-of-xnu/page/2/#findComment-913120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 I also wanted to say WOW, great work. Nice to know, I can resurrect my old Pentium-D machine, if I need to. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127896-the-care-feeding-of-xnu/page/2/#findComment-913147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACinized Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 efi-x might be "adopting" this voodoo kernel to expand their market. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127896-the-care-feeding-of-xnu/page/2/#findComment-913252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveskunk Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 u're right, but they would have to adopt it as hell since it's opensource and if you selling it its violating the GNU/GPL license i think. anyway, great work guys, will give it a try today on my hp pavilion laptop, any threads for reports on this forum? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127896-the-care-feeding-of-xnu/page/2/#findComment-914286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mifki Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 but then efi-x would say that they have not used one bit of code from anyone, and have coded it themselves xD Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127896-the-care-feeding-of-xnu/page/2/#findComment-914288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmacintosh Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Amazing how having someone or something to HATE brings some people together ....... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127896-the-care-feeding-of-xnu/page/2/#findComment-914325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACinized Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Amazing how having someone or something to HATE brings some people together ....... hi there efi-x guy. from the efi-x thread, i've read you're a no.1 fan of it. why still the interest of this voodoo kernel? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127896-the-care-feeding-of-xnu/page/2/#findComment-914336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercurysquad Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 but then efi-x would say that they have not used one bit of code from anyone, and have coded it themselves xD Let's just say there are "measures" in the kernel to prevent this I used to work for a company which made pro backing tracks, and I worked on adding watermarks to our products. I know how to identify my (or any particular) work and provide non-falsifiable evidence.. hehe. Heck, my bachelor thesis is about audio fingerprinting/watermarking - much the same principles apply to sourcecode. A simple hackjob is not enough to remove it. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127896-the-care-feeding-of-xnu/page/2/#findComment-914338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACinized Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Let's just say there are "measures" in the kernel to prevent this I used to work for a company which made pro backing tracks, and I worked on adding watermarks to our products. I know how to identify my (or any particular) work and provide non-falsifiable evidence.. hehe. Heck, my bachelor thesis is about audio fingerprinting/watermarking - much the same principles apply to sourcecode. A simple hackjob is not enough to remove it. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127896-the-care-feeding-of-xnu/page/2/#findComment-914349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmacintosh Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Well MACinised if you'd really read the EFI-X thread you'd have seen me write this "I'd like to nail this idea that EFI-X takes something away from anybody. It doesn't. It adds another string to your bow, an arrow to your quiver, a belt to your braces [select appropriate metaphor] I have a genuine Mac experience due to having genuine Macs - a G5 and a G4 I wanted to dabble with OSx86 so I put Kalyway on my Acer laptop and went through all the trials (great fun)-see my sig I need a fast, solid trouble-free 'Mac Pro' at the heart of my recording studio for recording not tinkering. Thankyou EFI-X I have a P4 workstation on which I'm going to explore the whole wonderful Boot-132 process as it develops There is no losing here. All the above approaches are totally valid and non-exclusive" There it is. Amazing huh? Unlike some I'm not against or threatened by any of these ideas. Or any other developments that come along - I welcome them. I think the ingenuity and creativity of some people here is incredible and I'm full of admiration for them It's sad and tiresome to read the hate, which just won't go away. It's sad that some people are unable to big up one idea without taking swipes at another I was particularly amused by someone who appears to hate jews, communists and EFI-X with the words "put and(sic) end to hate" in their sig Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/127896-the-care-feeding-of-xnu/page/2/#findComment-914507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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