Mac OSX Snow Leopard (10.6) Developer Preview

[JustinTD]

Well, it is finally more easier to get ahold of, so I had to do it! I downloaded 10.6 and installed it on my MacBook. So here's the good, the bad, and the basic:

 

The Basic:

- MacBook 3.1 (C2D 2.2, 2GB RAM, 160GB HD)

- OSX 10.6 "Snow Leopard" build 10A96

- Darwin kernel 10.0.0d1

 

The Good:

1. True 64 bit. Evidence of this is pretty obvious. Try editing several of the System Preferences, it forces the Preferences panel to load in a 32 bit mode.

2. Faster. I did a base install of 10.5 and ran XBench, 63 & 60. Installed 10.6 and repeated, 66 & 66. Marginal increase (not bad for not being optimized.)

3. Appears OpenCL is in. Shows as version 0.0 and I have no way to test it to see if its there, but its listed.

 

The Bad:

1. Buggy. Here's just the ones I have encountered so far:

.....a) Maxtor USB drive (once it puts the drive to sleep it won't rewake and actually freezes finder, you can get finder back by yanking the USB cable.)

..... Various graphical glitches. Window "streaks" across screen when closing and leaves a trail; Toast logo from DMG file is garbled; some are fixed with a reboot.

.....c) The drag to applications folder shortcut to install doesn't work. When you go to install a program and it has the shortcut to the Applications folder, dragging to that shortcut does not install the application. You need to drag the application to the Applications directory manually.

.....d) Some iLife updates fail for no reason. Sometimes reboot fixes it sometimes it doesn't. Tried 2 installs of 10.6 and had it go wonky with different iLife updates on each install.

 

Overall, I will keep playing with it just to see what it can do, but it looks promising!

[stevenlu]

The OpenCL shows the same for me, however:

 

My USB drives don't crash finder at all, they simply close.

The drag to applications folder still works for me.

The iLife isn't recognized as correct version at first, but simply goes away after.

[Synaesthesia]

I haven't heard of any 10.6 osx86

Yeah, but no-one may discuss anything under NDA in a public forum.

[Rolly Edward]

it's look like very promising for full 64 bit environment, however what about the application support? i have heard about new adobe will be full 64 bit, but what about the others. if we still use 32 bit application on 64 bit environment i know it allright but it seem is wasted CMIIW

[Jughead1111]

why are you deleting posts that talk about 10.6 hacks

 

 

MOD:

Because this forum is for Apple computers not for PCs

[Adrian Fogge]

A 64-bit OS can run 32-bit applications seamlessly. The only issues come into play are hardware support under a 64-bit OS.

That has been the main thing limiting 64-bit Windows from taking off, even when manufacturers are releasing systems that are fully 64-bit supported because people will inevitably plug in a webcam, a joystick or other third-party accessory and start complaining when it doesn't work.

 

The same thing holds true for all 64-bit OSes, Windows, Linux and OS X, and that is the very nature of architectural changes.

Apple has already stated that this will be a single OS that supports both 32-bit and 64-bit, so it is possible that they will eventually introduce some kind of a fall-back for 64-bit systems than need to use 32-bit drivers, or even some kind of KEXT Compatibility Layer as was done with Rosetta in the PPC -> x86 Transition, however none of those things have been publicly discussed up until this point so this is all wild speculation based on my personal experience.

 

~Adrian Fogge

[Synaesthesia]

why are you deleting posts that talk about 10.6 hacks

How about read post #3

[zeamp]

Screenshots! :-)

[Jughead1111]

How about read post #3 :censored2:

you guys are ssssoooo funny this is a site on how to hack osx. This site has sucked for a llllloooooonnnnnggggg time so I guess there isn't a nda for real macs lol

 

this site must be in china censorship sux I can get faster info from you tube and I WILL keep posting my opinion

[Colonel]

STOP DELETING MY POSTS!!!

 

[mod edit]

News team should know better than to post off-topic and complain about moderation - see forum guidelines:

This sub-forum is not for OSx86 questions!

and forum rules:

Do not publicly argue the decision of a moderator.

STOP SETTING A BAD EXAMPLE!!

[/mod edit]

[(MoC)]

STOP DELETING MY POSTS!!!

 

lol, honestly, whatever. You could find out how it's done if you ask hard enough and PM instead of saying stuff in broad daylight. That's like a suicide bomber going out in front of the police saying "psst, dude, I have a bomb, but don't tell anyone". Seriously, ask around discretely.

[Chrystopher]

HA-HA?

[xzos]

hi JustinTD

i have a macbook model 3.1 (2.2 ghz C2D)

can be install mac os x snow 10.6 on my macbook 3.1

i'm at 55.4 % of downloading snow 10.6 build 10a96

 

and thank's

[Richie D.]

hi JustinTD

i have a macbook model 3.1 (2.2 ghz C2D)

can be install mac os x snow 10.6 on my macbook 3.1

i'm at 55.4 % of downloading snow 10.6 build 10a96

 

and thank's

What do you mean? If you're asking whether you can install it on your Macbook 3.1, then just look at Justin's post, as he installed 10.6 in his Macbook 3.1.

[aduffbrew]

Yeah, but no-one may discuss anything under NDA in a public forum.

*snicker*

 

But violating the EULA, DMCA, EUCD and whatever else are OK? I'm confused. Where exactly do we draw the line between right and wrong here?

 

As a long time reader and occasional poster, I can honestly say these forums suffer from a severe case of schizophrenia.

 

I didn't see the deleted exchange here but I have been privy to some extraordinary displays of megalomania by some among our moderating volunteers which only seems to add to the apparent inconsistency.

 

 

OK... now back to the topic on hand...

 

I understand Snow Leopard to be an evolutionary refinement of OS X and not a revolutionary next step forward for the operating system. Apple isn't adding any new features or radically enhancing the interface but is choosing to focus on security and performance, right? Do you think this could be in response to Redmond's Windows 7 initiative?

[rollcage]

Yeah, but no-one may discuss anything under NDA in a public forum.

Wouldn't an NDA only apply to the people that signed the agreement?

 

I understand Snow Leopard to be an evolutionary refinement of OS X and not a revolutionary next step forward for the operating system. Apple isn't adding any new features or radically enhancing the interface but is choosing to focus on security and performance, right? Do you think this could be in response to Redmond's Windows 7 initiative?

I don't know who came up with the optimization idea first (Apple is always so secret). Either way, I think the other saw their competitor's break from adding new features as a chance to fix their own code. Now they don't have to worry about having the next "big feature".

[Richie D.]

Wouldn't an NDA only apply to the people that signed the agreement?

Usually yes, but maybe the forum admins don't want too many "leaks" coming from people who signed NDAs with Apple to avoid judicial action.

[ugOSX]

Bad luck!

I'm trying the developers preview in my real MacBook Pro 4.1 and it fails at start up. A forbhiden symbol appears in the place of the apple one.

I'm doing the install from the DVD. Do you know if it's strictly necessary to boot from an external HD?

 

EDITED

I had copied the Full DVD into an external HD with CCC and now it's installing!!!

Gooooood!!

[nvrmore100]

I noticed the speed improvements as well. One thing I did notice was considerably faster browsing speeds in Safari 4.0. Pages load much much quicker than in my Leopard install on the same drive. (MBP 2.4 Core 2 4GB mem). I tested out making a new user in Leopard, just to make sure anything I had auto-loading on login, wasn't affecting it, but saw the same speeds.

 

Besides that...can see absolutely no difference in the OS beyond the 64-bit messages in system prefs. Anyone see any features I missed?

[apokalypse2k3]

Bad luck!

I'm trying the developers preview in my real MacBook Pro 4.1 and it fails at start up. A forbhiden symbol appears in the place of the apple one.

I'm doing the install from the DVD. Do you know if it's strictly necessary to boot from an external HD?

 

EDITED

I had copied the Full DVD into an external HD with CCC and now it's installing!!!

Gooooood!!

 

I have the new macbook aluminum and it freezes when using external hdd but it works fine with my macbook pro 2.0ghz any idea how can fix this?

[Adrian Fogge]

The new Macbooks and Macbook Pros came out *after* the latest Snow Leopard build.

Apple also explicitly said that the new Macbooks and Macbook Pros are currently unsupported for the latest Snow Leopard Developer Preview (10a190).

 

You will need to wait until the next seed.

 

If you had an ADC account rather than "obtaining" this build from "other" sources, you would know this.

 

~Adrian

 

I have the new macbook aluminum and it freezes when using external hdd but it works fine with my macbook pro 2.0ghz any idea how can fix this?

[vbetts]

you guys are ssssoooo funny this is a site on how to hack osx. This site has sucked for a llllloooooonnnnnggggg time so I guess there isn't a nda for real macs lol

 

this site must be in china censorship sux I can get faster info from you tube and I WILL keep posting my opinion

 

You're dumb.

 

And we aren't hacking OS X, we're only a forum group to troubleshoot os X on PC hardware. 10.6 is still covered by NDA, which means that there isn't any major info or pictures about 10.6 allowed to be posted, unless already uncovered by Apple themselves.

[fordee]

I heard that Snow Leopard was 64 bit, so I grabbed 8 of my old Apple II's, networkd'em together, and I'm Patiently ready for this bad boy's official release!

 

I found an image, and I'm using CCC to re-image it down to 360k chunk's for my floppies, but I've run out.

 

Anyone know where I can still get a few more box's of 5 1/4 - 360K floppies?

 

 

Thanks!

 

 

(Seriously .. Support Apple... Respect the Mods... Buy a Licence.. If you want Free, run NetBSD..... or.. there's always Vista)