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[sniperviper]

hi folks,

is there any possibility to enable QE/CI in 10.5 (ToH RC2)?
Old ATI9700 patch is not working anymore :-(
Tried to replace the Leopard ones (partially PPC code) with working Tiger ones (all Intel code).
But also no success.

PLEASE HELP !!!!


gtx.
sniper

[dragossh]

Same problem here. Leopard is sluggish without QE/CI (well, CI only Software) and I can't run iWork or play movies

[effecks]

We have been discussing this in an older post:

http://forum.insanel...showtopic=70102

Basically we came to the same conclusion-- the Radeon 9700 GL drivers in Leopard are compiled PPC-only.  It would be useful if anyone out there with a copy of an earlier developer build of Leopard could check the following file to see if it's universal or not.

/System/Library/Extensions/ATIRadeon9700GLDriver.bundle/Contents/MacOS/ATIRadeon9700GLDriver

[dragossh]

Previous Leopard builds had QE/CI out-of-the-box with Radeon 9x00. If someone still has a previous build, please upload the ATI* files from the Extensions folder.

[mrblack1134]

dragossh, on Nov 11 2007, 02:46 PM, said:

Previous Leopard builds had QE/CI out-of-the-box with Radeon 9x00. If someone still has a previous build, please upload the ATI* files from the Extensions folder.

Is that right? which version of older leopard build should I chase?

Can anyone check older build to see if the driver has intel executable in it?

I'm just dying to get my QE/CI back

Thanks all

[dragossh]

9A559 seems to have Intel binaries for those cards, as SurR3AL says in this post.

[mrblack1134]

awesome. gotta try that out.

I'd like to keep my 9a581 install though. Is there a way, once I put my hand on the DMG, to go in the install files and only extract the Radeon* install folders? (and then I can replace my 9a581's with them). Is there any util that can go peek inside Leopard's installation files?

Thanks man

[dragossh]

Yes. You can use Pacifist to extract files from the packages

[Reptar]

I tried using a559 kext for ATI 9700.  I have an AGP 9600xt.  No benefit seen.  I am using AGPGart 1.0 and Callisto.  It is seen as an AGP card and I get multiple rez no matter what versions of the kext I use.  Hovever no QE/CI hardware acceleration.  If I don't set the framebuffer to CallistoFB I don't get any mouse tracks. Otherwise I do, but none of the QE/CI advantages.  Oh well, maybe I'll just live with it.  Better yet, maybe I'll get a compatible video card.

[effecks]

Reptar, did you replace all of the /System/Library/Extensions/ATIRadeon9700* extensions and bundles with the 9A559 versions?  Or just the main driver?  I am speculating that it is the GL driver that's causing the problem with 9A581, but I could be wrong.

[Reptar]

I replaced all ATI9700*.

[effecks]

I would maybe try it w/o AGPGart.

[Reptar]

I guess I could try it w/o AGPGart, but I suspect that will really slow this down since it will likely be seen as PCI.

Basic question> Does anyone actually have this working with ATI9700 kexts?

[dragossh]

Is ATIRadeon9700 loaded? If it is, I'm really wondering why the it doesn't work.

Can you share the kexts and bundles?

[effecks]

I obtained 9A559 and used Pacifist to extract the ATI drivers.  The 9700 GL driver is PPC-only there too.

For 9A581:

$ cd /System/Library/Extensions/ATIRadeon9700GLDriver.bundle/Contents/MacOS
$ ls -l
total 10616
-rwxr-r-x  1 root  wheel  5432640 19 Sep 01:40 ATIRadeon9700GLDriver
$ file ./ATIRadeon9700GLDriver
./ATIRadeon9700GLDriver: Mach-O universal binary with 2 architectures
./ATIRadeon9700GLDriver (for architecture ppc): Mach-O bundle ppc
./ATIRadeon9700GLDriver (for architecture ppc64):        Mach-O 64-bit bundle ppc64
$ md5 ./ATIRadeon9700GLDriver
MD5 (./ATIRadeon9700GLDriver) = 05487c97d7d87d1322911d29824b0a5f
$

For 9A559:

$ cd 9a559-extract
$ cd ATIRadeon9700GLDriver.bundle/Contents/MacOS
$ ls -l
total 10616
-rwxr-r-x  1 root  wheel  5432640 19 Sep 01:40 ATIRadeon9700GLDriver
$ file ./ATIRadeon9700GLDriver
./ATIRadeon9700GLDriver: Mach-O universal binary with 2 architectures
./ATIRadeon9700GLDriver (for architecture ppc): Mach-O bundle ppc
./ATIRadeon9700GLDriver (for architecture ppc64):        Mach-O 64-bit bundle ppc64
$ md5 ./ATIRadeon9700GLDriver
MD5 (./ATIRadeon9700GLDriver) = 99d39d3714ed1c11c0106c341b31b34a
$

So no good news.

[Kykc]

Same problems here :\ Someone can imagine other way to solve this problem? Without that Leo is useless to me (and other posters here..) For now I've cleared out Leo and get back to Tiger, but I'm still hoping that someday...  

[mrblack1134]

Great searching effecks.

What are the earliest releases of leopard? we could 'file' the 9700 driver there if it was removed right at the beginning of leopard... if so then it's probably not worth going down that route trying to chase the latest i386 enabled driver

I think I remember seeing a 9a3xx dvd somewhere on the torrents... did anyone keep a list of releases?

[sniperviper]

hi@all!

seems to be a very tricky task...
i tried all the ATIRadeon9700*.kext files from:

10.5 9a466
10.5 9a499
10.5 9a527

unfortunately no success in getting pure universal binaries :-(
there MUST be another way to enable the core engine effects!
please don't give up. it's a challenge - and we should win ;-)

gtx
sniper

[dustobub]

I was just about to install Leopard on my IBM T42 with a Mobility 9600 when I found this thread. Any idea why the Tiger kexts don't work? I'd be happy to do some testing if someone would be kind enough to send me the appropriate kexts. Thanks.

Dustin

[effecks]

sniperviper, can you run the "file" command on the ATIRadeon9700GLDriver binary in 9A466 as I showed in my above post?  I just want to get confirmation that this file is compiled PPC-only in the older Leopard builds as well.  (You said it doesn't work, but it's not clear if there's something else wrong.)