Gentlemen (and Ladies):
Have been giving a lot of thought re: User's Guide and reading through the thought-out and constructive posts. From someone that's read--or at least skimmed, a lot of the past articles, it seems that Clover has grown in leaps and bounds from something that has been a "hacker" tool to something that is becoming more user friendly to common users every day (and with each revision).
With that being said, I have also seen more and more people become aware of this great tool (I certainly mention it to others because I think it's so awesome -- 3TB drives are now in the $99 range on Slickdeals! so more people will undoubtedly switch to GPT and UEFI goes hand-in-hand with it--also Windoze 8), and along with that, more "basic" user questions. I also see questions being asked in multiple forums, which leads to difficulty for users to figure out where to find information. It also seems that different forums have different audiences, with osx86 catering to "basic" users, this forum being for intermediates, and projectosx being for advance discussions.
I believe having a Wiki or central repository would be great. I have been super busy with work, but would love to help integrate everything and rewrite things to "give back" and allow the devs to do what they do best and not have to answer basic questions over-and-over again. Maybe a completely separate forum with pinned topics for each of the different parts (e.g., DSDT, What is Clover (including what is UEFI, GPT, etc.), set-up questions--i.e., getting to Clover boot selection screen, etc.) or separate sub-forums for the separate parts.
One central place for help docs and then people can ask questions in whatever forum/site they wish? <-- comments/suggestions?
My comments re: user guide has been to try and be helpful, and I appreciate the incredible amount of thought and skill that has gone into Clover.
@kynnder, I thought what you did was great from the standpoint of showing someone a pure UEFI option, so my comment was meant to support what you did. I would have probably not gotten around to uploading something, or at least taking forever about it. :-)
And, no, I don't think the current guides are "bad" or "incomprehensible", I do think (my opinion only) that it needs to be in one place and edited for translation purposes (being a ESL (English as a Second Language) person, I appreciate the difficulties in translating from Russian to English, so I am very appreciative that people have actually bothered to do so). I would just like to help organize and edit.
The set-up was only confusing because I guess I wanted to create a pure UEFI set-up, and get rid of mixed MBR/GPT (at that time I thought I was going to dual-boot with Windows 8 (bleh! since I've used it for a little bit--going back to Windows 7 UEFI if I ever install Windows again), and I didn't realize how little was needed for that set-up. Now I understand the reasons for having the BIOS boot files after knowing the difference between UEFI and traditional BIOS, but ironically it was only after understanding how simple UEFI boot set-up is (or is supposed to be) that I understand the relationship. Most users will probably be coming from a BIOS/MBT set-up for now, so I guess my situation is different though I think more users will be going to use UEFI with Windoze 8.
antoniodapc, on 26 November 2012 - 11:52 AM, said:
Will you give me help for install Clover Efi on my HP Dv7 7202 ?
Do you have OS X already running? http://www.osx86.net...n-detected.html
Read the first few posts from this forum. You're more likely to get help if you have specific questions and more info.