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[spakk]

Hello @ ll you have read the full blog Agner????

http://www.agner.org...g/read.php?i=49
>>>

Intel
The Intel compiler includes standard function libraries. Several special purpose libraries are
also available, such as the "Intel Math Kernel Library" and "Integrated Performance
Primitives". These function libraries are highly optimized for large data sets. However, the
Intel libraries do not always work well on AMD and VIA processors. See page 132 for an
explanation and possible workaround. Supports all x86 and x86-64 platforms.

AMD
AMD Math core library contains optimized mathematical functions. It also works on Intel
processors. The performance is inferior to the Intel libraries. Supports 32- and 64-bit
Windows and Linux.

Asmlib
My own function library made for demonstration purposes. Available from
www.agner.org/optimize/asmlib.zip. Currently includes optimized versions of memory and
string functions and some other functions that are difficult to find elsewhere. Faster than
most other libraries when running on the newest processors. Supports all x86 and x86-64
platforms

link Asmlib
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I found the cpuid-tool (see link below), please look at the picture. It does not look bad, can it be booted by cpuid tamper with modified (cpuid.c / cpuid.h) with Mountain Lion? check this please
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picture www.workupload.com/file/ROAtyVE


connatic + Deltac0,  is it useful? can you work with it?

Edited by spakk, 24 November 2012 - 12:41 PM.

[spakk]

a nice picture? with cpuid fake (tool) from AMD Phenom II X4, an Intel Atom CPU

  
only Fun

[spakk]

what are you thinking about the tools?

[gils83]

spakk, on 24 November 2012 - 02:13 PM, said:

what are you thinking about the tools?

yes, I have seen how it is possible that AMD is recognized as ATOM processor??
I find it odd that this is also the 1 core 3 thread???

x3 720 and not x4 9xx !?

bizarre , biizarre  

[spakk]

gils83, on 24 November 2012 - 03:12 PM, said:

yes, I have seen how it is possible that AMD is recognized as ATOM processor??
I find it odd that this is also the 1 core 3 thread???

x3 720 and not x4 9xx !?

bizarre , biizarre  


read the pdf file or the readme file , the AMD cpuid are faking

read the pdf file or the readme file , the AMD cpuid are faking with the tool

here is the Readme-file:

CPUID manipulation program for AMD processors by Andrey Lutsenko
----------------------------------------------------------------
Uses AMD virtualization. Does not work on Intel processors.
Note: I have not tested these programs, and I am providing them without responsibility.

Description in Russian:
http://www.vmgu.ru/a...zation-security
Google translate:
http://translate.goo...zation-security


File list:
----------

RED_PILL.exe -- Fully functional Hyperdriver, uses 1 core for itself. Starts OS from next boot device after C:. XAP emulation is off by default. Run in DOS real mode.

Test_CPU.exe -- Fast Hyperdriver without register events and scan, but can edit and dump memory, and all cores are available. May be incorrectly shown in hyperagent state. Run in DOS real mode.

FreeEye.exe -- Windows hyperagent (eng + rus). Load it and turn on XAP emulation in "Dump event" panel. Then you can also change XAP-area in memory editor. CPUID changes should take effect instantly.

FreeEye.rar -- Hyperagent source (english version only) with comments.

CPUID-Atom.XAP -- CPUID substitute file example for Intel Atom. To load it in the Hyperdriver
it must be renamed to CPUID.XAP and placed in C:\ (FAT32 only). Can be edited with a HEX
editor as a set of 64 16-byte lines (register quads) for CPUID pages 0-31 and 80..0-80..31 .

CPUID-Core2.XAP -- CPUID substitute file example for Intel Core 2.

XAPCPUID.exe -- XAP-file maker, makes C:/CPUID.XAP file with current CPU data. Runs under DOS.


How to get the computer into real mode DOS:
-------------------------------------------
Method 1: Booting from Windows 98 hard disk.
Install the Windows 98 boot system files on a hard disk and boot the
computer from this hard disk. It is not necessary to install the entire
Windows system on the hard disk. If the hard disk has the entire Windows
system installed then press F8 during boot and select "safe mode command
prompt only" to avoid getting into Windows mode.

Method 2: Booting from a floppy disk.
The floppy disk has to be formatted on a computer with one of these
operating systems: DOS, Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows 98 SE,
Windows ME or Windows XP. It is not possible to make a bootable floppy
disk on Windows 2000 or Windows NT, Vista or Windows 7. (The computer
you are formatting the floppy disk on does not have to be the same
computer as the one you want to test).
Right-click on Floppy (A:), select "Format", and select "Copy
system files" or "Create an MS-DOS startup disk".

After the floppy disk has been made bootable, you have to copy all files
needed for the test to the floppy disk. You may have
to modify the BIOS setup in order to allow booting from a floppy disk.

Method 3: Booting from a USB memory stick.
Some brands of USB sticks can be made bootable, but not all.
Not all computers can boot from a USB stick, but many computers with
a relatively new BIOS can. You may have to modify the BIOS setup in
order to allow booting from a USB device. Follow the instructions that
come with the USB stick for how to make it bootable. The USB stick has
to be formatted on a computer with Windows 98, Windows ME or Windows XP
(not Windows 2000 or NT or Vista or Win7). After the USB stick
has been made bootable, you have to copy all files needed for the test
to the USB stick.

Whatever method you are using for getting into real mode DOS, make sure
you don't have EMM386 or any other virtual memory manager installed in
config.sys. (HIMEM.SYS may be OK).

[gils83]

spakk, on 24 November 2012 - 03:22 PM, said:

read the pdf file or the readme file , the AMD cpuid are faking with the tool

here is the Readme-file:

CPUID manipulation program for AMD processors by Andrey Lutsenko
----------------------------------------------------------------
Uses AMD virtualization. Does not work on Intel processors.
Note: I have not tested these programs, and I am providing them without responsibility.

Description in Russian:
http://www.vmgu.ru/a...zation-security
Google translate:
http://translate.goo...zation-security


File list:
----------

RED_PILL.exe -- Fully functional Hyperdriver, uses 1 core for itself. Starts OS from next boot device after C:. XAP emulation is off by default. Run in DOS real mode.

Test_CPU.exe -- Fast Hyperdriver without register events and scan, but can edit and dump memory, and all cores are available. May be incorrectly shown in hyperagent state. Run in DOS real mode.

FreeEye.exe -- Windows hyperagent (eng + rus). Load it and turn on XAP emulation in "Dump event" panel. Then you can also change XAP-area in memory editor. CPUID changes should take effect instantly.

FreeEye.rar -- Hyperagent source (english version only) with comments.

CPUID-Atom.XAP -- CPUID substitute file example for Intel Atom. To load it in the Hyperdriver
it must be renamed to CPUID.XAP and placed in C:\ (FAT32 only). Can be edited with a HEX
editor as a set of 64 16-byte lines (register quads) for CPUID pages 0-31 and 80..0-80..31 .

CPUID-Core2.XAP -- CPUID substitute file example for Intel Core 2.

XAPCPUID.exe -- XAP-file maker, makes C:/CPUID.XAP file with current CPU data. Runs under DOS.


How to get the computer into real mode DOS:
-------------------------------------------
Method 1: Booting from Windows 98 hard disk.
Install the Windows 98 boot system files on a hard disk and boot the
computer from this hard disk. It is not necessary to install the entire
Windows system on the hard disk. If the hard disk has the entire Windows
system installed then press F8 during boot and select "safe mode command
prompt only" to avoid getting into Windows mode.

Method 2: Booting from a floppy disk.
The floppy disk has to be formatted on a computer with one of these
operating systems: DOS, Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows 98 SE,
Windows ME or Windows XP. It is not possible to make a bootable floppy
disk on Windows 2000 or Windows NT, Vista or Windows 7. (The computer
you are formatting the floppy disk on does not have to be the same
computer as the one you want to test).
Right-click on Floppy (A:), select "Format", and select "Copy
system files" or "Create an MS-DOS startup disk".

After the floppy disk has been made bootable, you have to copy all files
needed for the test to the floppy disk. You may have
to modify the BIOS setup in order to allow booting from a floppy disk.

Method 3: Booting from a USB memory stick.
Some brands of USB sticks can be made bootable, but not all.
Not all computers can boot from a USB stick, but many computers with
a relatively new BIOS can. You may have to modify the BIOS setup in
order to allow booting from a USB device. Follow the instructions that
come with the USB stick for how to make it bootable. The USB stick has
to be formatted on a computer with Windows 98, Windows ME or Windows XP
(not Windows 2000 or NT or Vista or Win7). After the USB stick
has been made bootable, you have to copy all files needed for the test
to the USB stick.

Whatever method you are using for getting into real mode DOS, make sure
you don't have EMM386 or any other virtual memory manager installed in
config.sys. (HIMEM.SYS may be OK).

In summary, we manage to believe that AMD is seen as Intel CPU via software ?

however my FX 6100 is recognized as exacore Xéon intel on OS X.

It might vanilla kernel patched with this process ?




Annuler les modifications

something that bothers me, if it works, why on virtualbox or VMware does not support vanilla kernel on OS X?

I have the entire PC (FX 6100) that KP!

[spakk]

• i don't know Gils it's not working for me, I've tried everything.

    

[gils83]

the problem we have is mainly the lack of Nawcom's Developer's brilliant!

[spakk]

gils83, on 24 November 2012 - 07:49 PM, said:

the problem we have is mainly the lack of Nawcom's Developer's brilliant!

  

That's a fu_cking game, beginning next year, Apple will bring OS X 10.9 on the market. what problems we will get next year with AMD Cpu?

[gils83]

spakk, on 24 November 2012 - 08:01 PM, said:

That's a fu_cking game, beginning next year, Apple will bring OS X 10.9 on the market. what problems we will get next year with AMD Cpu?

core kernel 64/128 bit maybe??

[tdtran1025]

The end of Intel-based x86 computing is near for most of consumer Macs. Apple is already moving towards ARM-based for most of $ generating products. We may see the first iteration of this architecture in 2014 in the guise of Macbook Air, with more trickling up to the chain. Eventually in theory, Apple can change MacPro to blade server configuration with each blade containing multiples of graphic cores to supplant vector computing. This strategy brings them back to the closed, proprietary ecosystem of the past, where OSX/iOS ride on. This will mark the end of Hackintosh when that day comes, as we no longer have a common hardware platform.
If Apple succeeds in doing so, it may not be all that bad for the price of these Mac products will further drop to main stream level. What would be interesting is if and when AMD will wake up and jump in with both feet to their own ARM SoC. Their experience in chip design, both CPU and GPU, is tremendous. Maybe then the Hackintosh community could hack the kernel once again to make use of the hypothetical ARM-based AMD SoC, granted Apple would still use AMD graphics by then. On this point, I fear not, for their employment of Imagination Technologies' PowerVR in SoC proves the performance is quite superb compared to even NVidia+Qualcomm. Caldexa already proved the success of their ARM server so it would not be surprising to find MacPros going ARM's way in 2014.

[gils83]

tdtran1025, on 26 November 2012 - 08:24 PM, said:

The end of Intel-based x86 computing is near for most of consumer Macs. Apple is already moving towards ARM-based for most of $ generating products. We may see the first iteration of this architecture in 2014 in the guise of Macbook Air, with more trickling up to the chain. Eventually in theory, Apple can change MacPro to blade server configuration with each blade containing multiples of graphic cores to supplant vector computing. This strategy brings them back to the closed, proprietary ecosystem of the past, where OSX/iOS ride on. This will mark the end of Hackintosh when that day comes, as we no longer have a common hardware platform.
If Apple succeeds in doing so, it may not be all that bad for the price of these Mac products will further drop to main stream level. What would be interesting is if and when AMD will wake up and jump in with both feet to their own ARM SoC. Their experience in chip design, both CPU and GPU, is tremendous. Maybe then the Hackintosh community could hack the kernel once again to make use of the hypothetical ARM-based AMD SoC, granted Apple would still use AMD graphics by then. On this point, I fear not, for their employment of Imagination Technologies' PowerVR in SoC proves the performance is quite superb compared to even NVidia+Qualcomm. Caldexa already proved the success of their ARM server so it would not be surprising to find MacPros going ARM's way in 2014.

Yes, I've seen the future association between AMD and ARM and Mac hypothetical changes to this kind of technology but because of the much faster evolution of Intel's house, it is not tomorrow that we will see smart Macpro AMD or ARM with flow generators with Nvidia cUDA, CS5 / 6 uses this method and it is quite impressive.

Do not forget to buy AMD ATI Canadian firm with its engineers and if ATI has changed its name and that name! in my mind, even if I buy an AMD graphics card, the ATI development remains for me.

Intel still has good days ahead from Apple and it would be a serious part of their erreure change chip manufacturer.

MOTOROLA even uses intel chips for their phones  ! Motorola RAZR i – Processeur Intel® – Design compact - Motorola Mobility LLC. France

AnandTech - Intel's Medfield & Atom Z2460 Arrive for Smartphones: It's Finally Here

is to monitor all the same Steve Jobs is no longer there and the collection of risk bullshit grow at Apple.

le x86 n'est pas encore mort !!!  


quoi que ???  

iPhone5,2 - Geekbench Browser

intel mfld_pr2 - Geekbench Browser

[Sinetek]

Hi there !

I am pleased to announce that I have developped a SSSE3 (yes, 3 S') emulator for the XNU kernel.
Right now I am working on finishing up this work on the 10.6.8 kernel, but it should be easily portable to the newer kernels.

The plan would be to work upwards and integrate it to 10.7.x and then 10.8 =)
I made a test case program and the core emulation routines work, but there is a lot of integration work to do still. I am posting here because I would like to get in touch with people with strong coding/technical skills! In particular, I would like to also overhaul some AMD parts of the current patches.

So if you are interested in collaborating with me, let me know!

-- Sinetek   (Also, I'd be happy to communicate in English/Français/Deutsch)

[theconnactic]

slackware, on 28 November 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:

Hi there !

I am pleased to announce that I have developped a SSSE3 (yes, 3 S') emulator for the XNU kernel.
Right now I am working on finishing up this work on the 10.6.8 kernel, but it should be easily portable to the newer kernels.

The plan would be to work upwards and integrate it to 10.7.x and then 10.8 =)
I made a test case program and the core emulation routines work, but there is a lot of integration work to do still. I am posting here because I would like to get in touch with people with strong coding/technical skills! In particular, I would like to also overhaul some AMD parts of the current patches.

So if you are interested in collaborating with me, let me know!

-- Sinetek   (Also, I'd be happy to communicate in English/Français/Deutsch)

Then you're making history, my friend! Congratulations! You just solve years-long issues for not only AMD users, but for lots of legacy intel users as well. Cheers!

I'd love to test your emulator asap on my rig: could you upload it here?

As for the specialized help you need, i'm afraid i'm below the standards required for this, but i know a person who could help you a lot: meklort. You can talk to him on IRC, server irc.osx86.hu, rooms #legacykernel, #mountainlion and #lion. Other people can help you also, look for nawcom, developer of the legacy kernel.

Thank you very much, Sinetek!

[zchef2k]

Toggling CPUID masks in VMWare got me at least somewhere. This came from masking AMD's SSE3 fature. No more KP on corecrypto. Still hangs though as it does with fips_mode=0.

[gils83]

slackware, on 28 November 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:

Hi there !

I am pleased to announce that I have developped a SSSE3 (yes, 3 S') emulator for the XNU kernel.
Right now I am working on finishing up this work on the 10.6.8 kernel, but it should be easily portable to the newer kernels.

The plan would be to work upwards and integrate it to 10.7.x and then 10.8 =)
I made a test case program and the core emulation routines work, but there is a lot of integration work to do still. I am posting here because I would like to get in touch with people with strong coding/technical skills! In particular, I would like to also overhaul some AMD parts of the current patches.

So if you are interested in collaborating with me, let me know!

-- Sinetek   (Also, I'd be happy to communicate in English/Français/Deutsch)

Ah!

I am glad your coming! I would not do you a great secour in coding but if you have something to try do not hesitate to contact me, I have several platforms AMD (K10/K15) and Intel (xeon HT SSE2/core2duo / Core2Quad)

TheConnactic started working on the kernel 12.0

I installed VMware on my Mac OSX 10.7.5 AMD MHAC and I managed to get a machine ML10.8 64 bit, I get the problem with my iso modiffié Connactic kernel.

I do not despair.



si vous avez quelques idées pour ce problème ?

[instant idiot]

gils: Vous avez besoin de désactiver EFI dans ton VM et l'installer comme un Hackintosh ordinaire.

[gils83]

instant idiot, on 28 November 2012 - 09:28 PM, said:

gils: Vous avez besoin de désactiver EFI dans ton VM et l'installer comme un Hackintosh ordinaire.

Thank you!

I made a video capture to better understand

[instant idiot]

Peut-être il faut que vous mettiez le système d'exploitation comme Windows sur ton VM. Si vous faites ça, VMWare va émuler un carte mère avec BIOS, alors vous pouvez installer comme normal.

Aussi, vouz pouvez écrire en français; je peut vous comprendre beaucoup mieux que Google translate, bien sûr!

[spakk]

slackware, on 28 November 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:

Hi there !

I am pleased to announce that I have developped a SSSE3 (yes, 3 S') emulator for the XNU kernel.
Right now I am working on finishing up this work on the 10.6.8 kernel, but it should be easily portable to the newer kernels.

The plan would be to work upwards and integrate it to 10.7.x and then 10.8 =)
I made a test case program and the core emulation routines work, but there is a lot of integration work to do still. I am posting here because I would like to get in touch with people with strong coding/technical skills! In particular, I would like to also overhaul some AMD parts of the current patches.

So if you are interested in collaborating with me, let me know!

-- Sinetek   (Also, I'd be happy to communicate in English/Français/Deutsch)

Congratulations my friend for your work, I would also like to test your SSSE3 emulator with my Phenom II X6.
I also share the view of Theconnatic, please make your development here in front please.