pmdci Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Hello there, I currently have Mac OS X (10.7 Mountain Lion) running under VMWare Workstation 8 on Windows 7. I have 16GB of RAM and I dedicated 4 to MacOS X At first I wasn't very happy with the video performance. But after getting some SVGA II drivers here at Insanely Mac, I reckon the video performance is alright considering is a Virtual Machine. What I am looking for is a VM that would give me a fair 2D and at least some general audio playback capability (something tells me running Logic Pro under a VM would never be a good idea). I can't stop but wonder whether VirtualBox would be better than VMWare, mainly because with virtual box there aren't any hacks I must do in the virtualization software to run Mac OS X. I mean, with VMware I had to "unlock" Mac OS X as a guest OS option. Plus, perhaps I am wrong but I believe that it would also be easier to get audio and video? working at a better performance, since I reckon that Oracle thelselves would be working to provide decent drivers for Mac OS X under Virtual Box. Before I venture into trying to run Mac OS X under VirtualBox just for the sake of comparison (and risking wasting some precious time when I could be doing something more productive, like playing The Witcher 2 or diablo 3 ) I would rather "hear" what the community here has to say. What do you guys reckon? Also I never ran ######. on my Mac OS X VM as I thought this is only really necessary in "physical" (as in non-VMs) Mac OS X installs. But I have a feeling that I might be terribly wrong Any suggestions / recommendations are greatly appreciated. I am a total "noob" in the hackintosh scene. So my appologies in advance Cheers! P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PookyMacMan Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Do you mean 10.7 Lion or 10.8 Mountain Lion? From what I know, VMWare presents an emulated actual graphics card to the VM, and I believe there are ways to get QE/CI (hardware 3D acceleration) on VMWare. However, on VirtualBox it presents it's own virtual graphics card to the VM, and since there are no guest additions for Mac OS X it is impossible to get QE/CI working. QE/CI is essential to many parts of the OS, so I think it might be a no-brainer. On VMWare, you will have to install a boot loader and drivers afterwards. However, I would not use [url="http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/279450-why-insanelymac-does-not-support-tonymacx86/"]#####[/url] on any system, virtual or not. Quite unreliable. I would simply find the boot loader and drivers manually. I personally believe that it if you need to have Windows and OS X, it is more profitable to arrange a dual-boot rather than a VM, because when it runs in a VM it is not quite like native (particularly games), but I would use a VM only if I absolutely had to run both OSes at the same time. OTOH, it might be more profitable to run Windows in a VM on OS X... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donk Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Neither product can do QE/CI. VMware presents its own graphics card. VMware does have audio. However the simple answer is forget playing games on a virtualized OSX environment, probably wont work and not worth spending the time trying. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmdci Posted May 24, 2012 Author Share Posted May 24, 2012 Hi PookyMacMan (cool nick btw) Thanks a lot for your help and patience with my noob questions Yes I meant LION, not Mountain Lion (sorry). I reckon I will get the 10.8 when the RTM is out. I reckon by combining what both you and Donk and you said below, VMware seems to be the "keeper". I installed Mac OS X 10.7 using a "template" VMware that was already configured to boot. It seems to work fine and I didn't have to do any further modifications with regards to booting. However I am pretty sure that future system updates might "break" this predefined boot loader configuration and I might need to patch the VM up for it to keep working. In fact I tried an update the other day and my Mac OX VM hanged on the grey apple logo after reboot. Thank heavens I took a snapshot so I reverted the mess. Now, when you said that you use ####### on any system, did you intend to say that you would NOT use it? Where could I get the bootloader and re-apply it in case I need before/after a system update? Also, how is the audio working for you guys under a VMware? I got some audio driver I found whilst crawling through Google but I am not sure I got the latest or the best one out there. Any pointers? Thanks for all the help! P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donk Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Use my Unlocker for VMwareall posted in this forum. No need for anything other than retail copy of OS X. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PookyMacMan Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Yes, I meant do NOT use [url="http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/279450-why-insanelymac-does-not-support-tonymacx86/"]#####[/url]! Me and my typos... You can google for Chameleon packages and for your proper drivers. Is this a retail installation? Updates shouldn't break the system... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Surge Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Exactly what I needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Xtreme Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 oracle provides no drivers what so ever but virtualbox is free and has a load of features so it's my {natural} choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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