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[Vis]

I'm stumped, but I'm pretty sure it's my lack of knowledge. How can I get osx and vista to co-exist on the same partitioned hard drive when OSX requires GUID and Vista doesn't recognize a GUID partition? I've got OSX installed, want to install Vista and use EasyBCD to set them up them up to boot. I'm sure it's me missing something here....

[Computer Guru]

Thanks for the bcd.zip package, macgirl - I'll be pointing people to it if they don't have Vista lying around somewhere

Microsoft should have included BCD in Windows XP SP3 - it's a real shame they didn't

[rhyguy]

Vis, on Dec 25 2008, 05:56 AM, said:

I'm stumped, but I'm pretty sure it's my lack of knowledge. How can I get osx and vista to co-exist on the same partitioned hard drive when OSX requires GUID and Vista doesn't recognize a GUID partition? I've got OSX installed, want to install Vista and use EasyBCD to set them up them up to boot. I'm sure it's me missing something here....

Make the partition you want to install vista to active

[macgirl]

mattrb, on Dec 24 2008, 11:46 AM, said:

If you could make a guide on "XP bootloader loads syslinux then it loads DFE Boot132 and finally Chameleon with PC-EFI9" then you shall be the Queen of Sheeba.

This is an awesome idea. I never thought of this nor do I know even where to start in getting this working.

Well a syslinux boot is easy because you only add an entry to the boot.ini

here is an example:

[boot loader]
timeout=20
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Windows XP" /FASTDETECT /NOEXECUTE=OPTIN /USEPMTIMER
C:\syslinux="Mac OS X with Boot-132"

Of course you need to copy the first 512 bytes of the partition that hold syslinux to your boot drive.
that could be done with:

dd if=/dev/rdiskXsY of=syslinux bs=512 count=1

[Computer Guru]

Vis: Vista cannot be installed on a GUID partition normally - though Vista x64 technically has EFI/GUID support.

The best way of doing it is installing Vista first to an MBR disk keeping one partition free. Afterwards use any OS X distro installation disc to put OS X on the second partition *of the MBR disk* and use EasyBCD thereafter to facilitate the dual-boot.

I don't know if the IM community has developed a way to install Vista on a GUID disk.

[Why Me]

Computer Guru, on Dec 24 2008, 04:26 PM, said:

Make sure to remove the entry created with the old version of EasyBCD first.

When adding a new entry with EasyBCD, keep the default "Mode: EFI" option set... then add the new entry. Upon selecting the entry at reboot, you will have the option of keying in the drive to boot from (verses booting from the default drive) since pc_efi v9 lets you pick what drive to boot OS X from.

That my problem starting up with the the other disk in the bootloader seems to mix up the kernels.

starting 10.5.5 with the bootloader on the 10.5.6 gives a kernel panic the other way around also.

Thats why I was trying to make a triple boot with EasyBCD.

[Dette]

This is nice! Good work!

I dont have to go through steps to get into OS X now!
Just choose it and darwin opens it rather then trying to boot vista again and looping back

Thanks

[pere]

Computer Guru, on Dec 24 2008, 08:23 PM, said:

Vis: Vista cannot be installed on a GUID partition normally - though Vista x64 technically has EFI/GUID support.

The best way of doing it is installing Vista first to an MBR disk keeping one partition free. Afterwards use any OS X distro installation disc to put OS X on the second partition *of the MBR disk* and use EasyBCD thereafter to facilitate the dual-boot.

I don't know if the IM community has developed a way to install Vista on a GUID disk.

First, thanks for your good work!!  


Vista can be installed (and XP also) on a GUID (GPT) partitioned disk using the hibrid partition scheme OSX provides.

This is the way:
Use disk utility to partition the disk as GPT using 2 or 3 partitions, format first one as mac os journaled and second (or third) as MSDOS, that will create a hibrid GPT/MBR partition table.  (In fact, this is the way OSX uses when you use bootcamp to install windows).
OSX is installed on first partition and XP or VISTA on second (or third) after format the volume as NTFS.

I have used chain0 and boot.ini edit to dualboot OSX/XP this way and EASYBCD to dual boot OSX/W7. Chameleon/DFE 132 and netkas PCEFI V9 tried sucessfully.

[flibblesan]

Computer Guru, on Dec 24 2008, 07:23 PM, said:

Vis: Vista cannot be installed on a GUID partition normally - though Vista x64 technically has EFI/GUID support.

The best way of doing it is installing Vista first to an MBR disk keeping one partition free. Afterwards use any OS X distro installation disc to put OS X on the second partition *of the MBR disk* and use EasyBCD thereafter to facilitate the dual-boot.

I don't know if the IM community has developed a way to install Vista on a GUID disk.

Vista Home Premium x64 installs perfectly fine to a GUID partitioned disk for me without any problems.

[Vis]

pere, on Dec 25 2008, 03:34 AM, said:

First, thanks for your good work!!  
Vista can be installed (and XP also) on a GUID (GPT) partitioned disk using the hibrid partition scheme OSX provides.

This is the way:
Use disk utility to partition the disk as GPT using 2 or 3 partitions, format first one as mac os journaled and second (or third) as MSDOS, that will create a hibrid GPT/MBR partition table.  (In fact, this is the way OSX uses when you use bootcamp to install windows).
OSX is installed on first partition and XP or VISTA on second (or third) after format the volume as NTFS.

I have used chain0 and boot.ini edit to dualboot OSX/XP this way and EASYBCD to dual boot OSX/W7. Chameleon/DFE 132 and netkas PCEFI V9 tried sucessfully.

Thanks Pere, but I still have a problem with this. Lets say I have one hard drive, partitioned into two volumes. osx 1 and Vista. It's a GUID partition. The problem is, when I select the Vista partition in the Disk Utility, the format area is set to Max OS Extended (Journaled) and is grayed out, so I have no option to set it to anything else right now. OSX is already installed on the OSX partition (I'm in it now). Is the Hybrid partition only available during OSX setup?

[Computer Guru]

Thanks for your explanation, pere - that clears up one of my few remaining questions pertaining to Windows/OSX dual-boots

[stibra]

Download link does not work

[SpeedracerX]

Doh! FTP appears to be down.  I downloaded it last night and it worked, but I had to re-install and when I came to pull it down again, link was dead.  Could someone post a link to it.

Thanks, and Merry X-Mas!

[Computer Guru]

Our ISP for the dev server was down, I've switched the beta builds over to the main NST server.

Link updated, see first post.

Sorry about that

[FavleX]

..first ,If I don't remember wrong for installing vista on a guid partition scheme , u need SP1 for Vista.
Second , If I'm using EFI9, and regularly deepsleep , when it's wake up from hibernate, I need to choose on the Easybcd menu ?
Or Can I get a "Quiet Boot" as with Darwin ?

[Graebags]

OK, very cool!!   ...and very timely (for me).

I have it installed on Vista64 and am now using it to multiboot between Vista64 on hw raid partition, Win7 prebeta 64bit on a seperate pata drive and Leopard 10.5.6 on a third GUID (pata) drive with pc_efi v9 courtesy of the Universal Installer.

It works, which is great.  Its replacing the Easybcd 1.7.2 install which ceased to work once I used the UI to upgrade to 10.5.6 with efi v9.

Fisrt thing I noticed is it seems to want to boot OSX on the Vista drive...  Vista and Win7 will always make their drive "C" at boot, and if it fails to find 'chain loader' then requires a ctrl-alt-del reboot.  Two seconds to hit a key to get a choice of hdd to boot is a bit mean, but works.  Having it fail-over to try HDD 2, if OSX isn't on HDD 1 would be nice.

Good work.

[SpeedracerX]

Thanks for this APP, I was finally able to get Tiny Vista (vlite) to install on my MBR 1 partition and OSx (MSIWINDOSX) on my second partition.  I'm going to play with deep sleep (hibernation) I hope it works with my config.

[fb*]

Is it possible to use this in conjunction with the VistaLoader vista hack? (It modifies the bootloader to make the OS think it's running on an OEM PC)

I'm getting a Valid BCD Registry Not detected error.


Thanks

[SpeedracerX]

Yeah, I got it to work with the boot loader my Vista, so my notebook boots Vista and does not need to be Activated. If I were you I would try another version of the Vista hack you are using.

[Computer Guru]

With regards to the fallback to a different drive - I'm fairly certain that the Chameleon team has this fixed now that the 64kb barrier has been broken... As soon as we hear from them and find out what goodies they have in store, I'll update EasyBCD with the changes

It looks like EasyBCD is working great for everyone? No problems?