JeremyA Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Here's what is and is not working on a MacBook Pro: Based on: AirmanPika's master list , Stratus Fear's bluetooth driver, lilmoonee3's omega drivers suggestion, a rapidly growing list of other helpful souls. sorry if i leave your name out, but know your help is appreciated! -------------------------------- Chipset: YES, the Intel chipset driver works. Note: The only perceptible change people have mentioned is the ICH7 SMBus Controller is now recognizable. Regardless, it's always a good idea to have the latest chipset drivers installed, even if it just "freshens" the ones redistributed by Microsoft. Sound: YES, the Sigmatel driver works, with caveats Caveats: "Sound from headphones but not speakers"; Infrared Out is now on 100% of the time, so there is another constant, miniscule power draw as well as additional heat being generated. Ethernet Controller: YES, the Marvell driver works. Wireless Card: NO... the Dell drivers will not install as no compatible hardware is detected. NO... the ASUS redist of Intel's A7G mobo wireless driver (for the 2200BG/2915ABG) installs, but detects no compatible hardware. NO... the Intel-direct generic version for the 2200BG/2915ABG/3945ABG installs, but detects no compatible hardware. YES...the drivers for an IBM ThinkPad 802.11abg LAN Mini PCI Express adapter seem to work fine, but installation instructions are a little tricky: extract the drivers from the compressed .exe (I used WinRAR) and then right click-> Upgrade Driver... on the "? Network Adapter" item. Rather than search, tell it you manually will choose the driver, and select "All Devices" then click "Have Disk" and point it at the WINXP_2K folder in the bits you just extracted. Ignore / accept the warning and viola... you should have a working wireless adapter. Bluetooth: NO... the drivers install without too much trouble, but during and afterwards they complain that your bluetooth adapter is not installed or connected. so, their software devices work fine, but the actual hardware is not compatible. Best guess as to why this may not be workable is here. Warning: Hacking Bluetooth drivers for Windows could be dangerous. Read more here. YES... See here for details. Video: NO... the Omega drivers do NOT work even if told a Laptop card is installed NO... the stock ATI Catalyst drivers do not work (they throw a "Severe" INF error (Video driver not found.) and then suggest "Try to setup your display adapter with a standard VGA driver before running setup." NO... the ASUS A76 drivers (VGA_XP_060221.zip) do not work (see ATI Catalyst results ^) Tip: until we get the drivers working, disable all hardware acceleration on the video card. it makes things (like moving windows around) much smoother. still not "perfect," but it is an improvement. Known Quirks, Oddities, and Cautionary Notes Restarting XP causes it to lock up (doesn't work) Shutting Down XP also locked up the machine until i joined an NT Domain (which disables the Welcome screen login mode). Apparently this made it possible for Shutdown to work properly again on my MacBook. However, joining a domain / disabling the Welcome screen causes problems of its own. Chiefly: the MacBook keyboard has no Del(ete) key, making the requisite "three-finger salute" (ctrl+alt+del) impossible, and Fn+(Backspace) doesn't produce a PC Del code like you'd expect it to... so unless you have a spare USB keyboard handy, you can't log in again (joy)! The fix for this is to get remapkey.exe. Details are here. There is reasonable speculation that the accessory fans aren't turning on in Windows, which could lead to overheating. I ran my MBP in Windows all day yesterday and while i did notice it running hotter than usual, there was no perceptible damage (YMMV, I Am Not A Lawyer). Of course, the most system-intensive thing I did was install all the Windows Updates via Internet Explorer. At this stage, it's probably a Good Thing that we can't play Half Life 2 yet... Note: it is likely that installing the chipset drivers mentioned above mitigates or eliminates this problem, as it allows Windows to talk to the SMBus components. ---------------------------- P.S. A million thanks (or at least, 13,000 thanks :censored2:) to narf2006, blanka, and sud0n1m who made all this possible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grabberslasher Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Am I the only one who can state that my WiFi card isn't picking up my router using the Dell drivers? I'm on a 17" iMac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirmanPika Posted March 17, 2006 Author Share Posted March 17, 2006 Just as a note it appears the MacBook Pro may use a rebadged Intel Pro Wireless 3945ABG card so macbook users may want to try that. Let me know and I'll update the main post. Am I the only one who can state that my WiFi card isn't picking up my router using the Dell drivers? I'm on a 17" iMac I think someone mentioned that the dell drivers may not support WEP 2.0 so if your router is using that it COULD be why its not working. I can't verify this myself as I don't use WEP at all personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grabberslasher Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Just as a note it appears the MacBook Pro may use a rebadged Intel Pro Wireless 3945ABG card so macbook users may want to try that. Let me know and I'll update the main post.I think someone mentioned that the dell drivers may not support WEP 2.0 so if your router is using that it COULD be why its not working. I can't verify this myself as I don't use WEP at all personally. Afaik I'm not using security at all.. :censored2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirmanPika Posted March 17, 2006 Author Share Posted March 17, 2006 Well that sucks. You could try finding an alternate drive possibly. The iMac uses a Broadcom 4310/4311 PCI-E 802.11abg chipset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlesP Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 It appears that the performace counters help the OS determine CPU load on multiprocessing systems. It helps with scheduling multithreadding of tasks. I'm not sure XP even supports this hardware method of scheduling tasks. Here is where I found some information. Using Hardware Event Counters 00:07.0 Performance counters: Intel Corporation Unknown device 27a3 (rev 03) I am wondering is what the Performance Counters entry is exactly. It shows up as an unknown PCI device. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Goodwin Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Not in the least way out of shear curiosity, but I tried installing some drivers for the video thinking maybe I might make a breakthrough, and the system locked. Now when I try to restart windows, it just sits there and hangs. How can I undo this? Is there a way to go into "VGA" mode? Thanks! Thomas EDIT: n/m. I just tried F8 and it showed up allowing me to revert to last known good config.... Everest shows Ati Mobility Radeon X1600 M56, to anyone wondering... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlesP Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 boot in safe mode by pressing F8 during the boot sequence. Uninstall the new driver and they system will boot back into VGA mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grabberslasher Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 I don't think we're ever gonna find working graphics drivers as-is - from what I can tell Windows must be hard coded to blanko's framebuffer driver to work on the Macs. This would most probably mean that someone needs to change the framebuffer (XOM/vgasave) driver to translate calls directly to the Radeon, which sounds like a horrible amount of work to get video drivers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratus Fear Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Bluetooth: NO... the drivers install without too much trouble, but during and afterwards they complain that your bluetooth adapter is not installed or connected. so, their software devices work fine, but the actual hardware is not compatible. Wonder if the device ID is different or something... The bluetooth chipset is indeed the same as the old D-Link USB bluetooth adapter I used to use, and those drivers worked on it back then... I don't think we're ever gonna find working graphics drivers as-is - from what I can tell Windows must be hard coded to blanko's framebuffer driver to work on the Macs. This would most probably mean that someone needs to change the framebuffer (XOM/vgasave) driver to translate calls directly to the Radeon, which sounds like a horrible amount of work to get video drivers So it seems as though they would need to emulate a VGA BIOS to get around using the linear framebuffer deal... Hmm... As it is, it seems like they aren't. But I don't know about the internals of the code, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyA Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Just as a note it appears the MacBook Pro may use a rebadged Intel Pro Wireless 3945ABG card so macbook users may want to try that. Let me know and I'll update the main post.I think someone mentioned that the dell drivers may not support WEP 2.0 so if your router is using that it COULD be why its not working. I can't verify this myself as I don't use WEP at all personally. Report: I tried the ASUS redist of Intel's A7G mobo wireless driver (for the 2200BG/2915ABG) and it didn't work. I also tried the Intel-direct generic version for the 2200BG/2915ABG/3945ABG, it also didn't work. Back to square 1... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Goodwin Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 So if wireless networking isn't working yet, how is it that one user is even messing with being able to 'see' other wireless networks? What driver is supposed to be used for the iMac 17? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Not to get off topic, but does the patch work with Windows XP Home Edition? I have that version and I dont have the money to go out and buy XP Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac tosh Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 So what do we do about the video? Contest #2 $15 here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Goodwin Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Oh, and one more thing - Does anyone else's system lock up on shutdown/restart? Mine does it consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac tosh Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 how about hibernation and standby? (Sorry Off Topic) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Goodwin Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 how about hibernation and standby? (Sorry Off Topic) There's no such thing on mine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grabberslasher Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Wonder if the device ID is different or something... The bluetooth chipset is indeed the same as the old D-Link USB bluetooth adapter I used to use, and those drivers worked on it back then...So it seems as though they would need to emulate a VGA BIOS to get around using the linear framebuffer deal... Hmm... As it is, it seems like they aren't. But I don't know about the internals of the code, so... What actually originally made me think that is that I hacked the ATI drivers so they would install, and my display adapter shows up as a "Radeon X1600 Family", but in the Display Properties it would show that it's forced to the XOM framebuffer driver (which, BTW, you should NEVER EVER disable - am re-installing Windows now as a result). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichCoder Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 I think also Asus and Toshiba won't help... Its the special "Apple-Firmware" in the Graphic-Card thats such a pain in the ass... I've read some interview from a mac game mag with ATI. They said you would have to flash the Bios of the GPU to get all its features in WinXP.Doesn't seem too good to me but maybe the mystique BAMBIOS will do the job... Let's see what the next days may bring for all of us. Good night If I recall correctly, the firmware was required to communicate with the PowerPC processors which require a different endianess. There should no longer be a need to have a different firmware with the new intel chips. -rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirmanPika Posted March 17, 2006 Author Share Posted March 17, 2006 Well in this case the firmware is different because they used a UGA bios instead of a VGA one on the radeon. Oh and yes the macs don't want to reboot for some reason. They will always freeze on "Windows is shutting down..." and you have to do a manual power cycle. I believe this is the case for all machines. Shutdown works fine though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecapitalizt Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Okay, I was running around on the Onmac IRC channel, and I ALMOST have a driver working. Here's what I found (sorry for the ad-tacular reg needed): http://members.driverguide.com/driver/deta...driverid=613581 I had someone install it. After restart, it showed the device, but that it had a Code 10 error and didn't work, as such: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyA Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Well in this case the firmware is different because they used a UGA bios instead of a VGA one on the radeon. Oh and yes the macs don't want to reboot for some reason. They will always freeze on "Windows is shutting down..." and you have to do a manual power cycle. I believe this is the case for all machines. Shutdown works fine though. Not sure why, but even Shutdown hard locks the MacBook Pro. I haven't tried Restart yet... maybe it's opposite of the iMac? Anyway, i did some more poking around and noticed something fun about the Omega drivers. Installing the Omega drivers doesn't provide any better video experience, but it does expose this information in the Device Mangler: -Display adapters M56 M56 Properties->Details tab: Device Instance Id PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_71C5&SUBSYS_00001002&REV_00\4&31B7BFB9&0&0008 Hardware Ids PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_71C5&SUBSYS_00001002&REV_00 PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_71C5&SUBSYS_00001002 PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_71C5&CC_030000 PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_71C5&CC_0300 Compatible Ids PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_71C5&REV_00 PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_71C5 PCI\VEN_1002&CC_030000 PCI\VEN_1002&CC_0300 PCI\VEN_1002 PCI\CC_030000 PCI\CC_0300 Matching Device Id pci\ven_1002&dev_71c5 Service ati2mtag Enumerator PCI Capabilities Devnode Flags DN_DRIVER_LOADED DN_STARTED DN_DISABLEABLE DN_NT_ENUMERATOR DN_NT_DRIVER ConfigFlags CSConfigFlags Ejection Relations Removal Relations Bus Relations Device Upper Filters Device Lower Filters Class Upper Filters Class Lower Filters Class Installer Desk.Cpl,DisplayClassInstaller Class Coinstallers Device Coinstallers Firmware Revision Current Power State D0 Power Capabilities PDCAP_D0_SUPPORTED PDCAP_D1_SUPPORTED PDCAP_D2_SUPPORTED PDCAP_D3_SUPPORTED Power State Mappings S0 -> D0 S1 -> Unspecified S2 -> Unspecified S3 -> D3 S4 -> D3 S5 -> D3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92GTA Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Anyone tried flashing the BIOS on the GFX card with the PC version of the M56 yet? Someone here HAS to have an OEM contact at a company who is using the M56 in their units for us to do this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Kahuna Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Any anyone given a run on installing the Intel Chipset drivers? That would knock out a lot of the odd and end drivers, as I know on Dell and other system you have to install it for other devices to show up correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neuronbasher Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 As an aside, does anyone know if there is a way to tell within XP if these systems are running the memory in dual channel mode or not? I know that nobody has figured out a way in OSX yet, and I've been curious since I upgraded my RAIM myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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