zeamp Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Microsoft's track record of revolutionary hasn't been all that great lately with Vista bombing so hard. What about Silverlight? Does Microsoft's latest "wow" have Adobe shaking in their boots or is Adobe about to drop their own bombshell in terms of a re-vamped Flash-like spin with more power than Actionscript? You decide! (And let me know). http://www.microsoft.com/silverlight/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SticMAC™ Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Is there ANY reason why they don't make a version for Mac OS X?? SticMAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~pcwiz Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 I wrote a review on this a while back: http://######.com/blog/?p=79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeamp Posted June 10, 2008 Author Share Posted June 10, 2008 Is there ANY reason why they don't make a version for Mac OS X?? SticMAN Bill, any comment? O_o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.SubZero Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Is there ANY reason why they don't make a version for Mac OS X?? A version of what? Silverlight? They.... do. I'm running beta 2 on Safari in OS X now. Seems to work fine. Microsoft.com is all shiny and animated. I visited that site and it prompted me to update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeamp Posted June 12, 2008 Author Share Posted June 12, 2008 http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/deve...ilverlight.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konami® Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 The problem with Silverlight is that you need to know programming, in adobe flash, anyone can do an animation or whatever u want without using code programming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozboi Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Actionscript IS powerful, especially with 3.0 -- it's ECMAScript compliant and fully object-oriented now, and while it doesn't have full access to the local machine file-system, I prefer it that way for security. That's really the only limitation: by using it in conjunction with any server-side scripting language you want you can easily store and retrieve data or files. Silverlight may be a little more powerful and integrated with IIS but I doubt it will be competition if used on other servers, and I can't see 95% of users installing it like Flash Player. [edit] Just read that it doesn't support H.264 or Flash Video. Considering that websites such as YouTube and Flickr use Flash Video I think it pretty much limits its appeal. Basically like how MS is/was trying to force their new JPEG XR image format down people's throat. It took them forever to admit that licensing it was a bad idea, though they're still fighting to have it classified as a standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(MoC) Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 They'll never make something to replace flash. Silverlight just came out of the womb and browsers barely have support for it. It'll take a while to barely be considered as proper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hecker Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Silverlight: A new shipment of FAILHahaha, that title just cracked me up, dude. hehe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vbetts Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Eh, it's okay. Nothing you need, seeing everything runs on flash now pretty much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaporATX Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 As usual Microsloth is about 10 years too late. They just haven't been the same since the DoJ crawled up there ass with and microscope and stayed there. Every year they get a bit weaker. In 10 years they'll be nothing but a washed up has been producing mediocre embedded systems for the lowend appliance and entertainment device market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taxilian Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 It always amuses me to read biased comments from people who haven't used technologies =] People talk about the Mac the same way -- and are actually usually even further off the mark than many comments on this thread. The biggest problem comes from the term "flash-killer". Microsoft as a company may be hoping that Silverlight will be a flash killer (no, I'm not delusional, I realize this), but the Silverlight team and anyone who is really familiar with Silverlight knows that Flash isn't really the target... Flex is. Flex is the flash framework for developing web apps in flash. Yeah, as far as animations, Silverlight is a *long* ways from having as good of an interface for making cool little ads or other such things. The main target group for Silverlight is the millions of developers who already use Microsoft .Net to develop apps. It makes it easy for them to make nice apps that run cross-platform in a web browser. That said, around these parts I'm betting more people use objective C than Silverlight, and the lack of Silverlight development tools that will run on Mac is definitely disappointing. They are working on an eclipse plugin that will support Silverlight, and it sounds like that may be a hit. Also, they do have a remote debugging tool to let you debug your apps on Mac. Better than flash? If you're using flash for what it's best for - animations, visual design, etc - then probably not. If you're a developer used to microsoft's tools, it'll save you hoards of time. If you're used to flash, you'll probably stick with Flex. For a larger app, however, Silverlight is really going to shine... and performance-wise, in all of our tests (my company supports both), Silverlight actually seems to outperform flash. The really funny thing is that it seems to run faster on Mac than Windows. I did enjoy the review, and noted that some of the problems mentioned have been fixed in the full release of Silverlight. Others are still there. I think it's a good start, and I am pleased to see that Microsoft (at least parts of it) is finally starting to realize that Mac is a big enough market share that you have to start recognizing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dies Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 For a larger app, however, Silverlight is really going to shine... and performance-wise, in all of our tests (my company supports both), Silverlight actually seems to outperform flash. The really funny thing is that it seems to run faster on Mac than Windows. Hmm... That's pretty interesting, you obviously know more than I care to about the subject so I'll take your word for it. BUT I will say that their own "Beta" site which I assume is supposed to be a "showcase" of the technology, is complete garbage. And it's one of those sites, like the tons of flash sites out there, that's annoying not only because it's ugly but because it doesn't seem to do anything really special, it just does it slower... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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