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EFiX: OSx86 gone commercial?

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efi-x.com, last updated June 9th, claims to offer the ability to install OS 10 on a non mac with the retail disc. The EFiX website states:

EFiX is the best solution for installing and using Mac OS X on your PC.

It allows its user to install Mac OS X straight from the original DVD without having to worry about patches,

replacing files and anything like that.

That means you can buy a regular PC, Mac OS X and EFiX and enjoy what the Mac users have always enjoyed:

unmodified Mac OS X on your computer, safe, easy and fast, exactly the way it should be.

 

The development of EFiX took a lot of time.

During the development phase, we had to deal with various problems, including sabotage.

This process also involved testing, which has been conducted for the last 6 months in production environments.

Industry leading professionals(who work for TV stations, recording studios and many others) rely on EFiX and Mac OS X running on standard PC hardware to get their tasks done.

 

EFiX is in the final testing phase.

All the testing has went far better than what we expected and the testers have given positive feedback.

 

We have planned to release it on 23rd of June, 2008. More information will be added soon.

Longtime OSx86 contributor netkas has posted EFiX in action on his blog. According to netkas, EFiX is hardware which plugs into your USB port.

 

As the June 23rd release approaches, many questions about EFiX remain unanswered:

-Is it an EFI emulator like PC_EFI or Chameleon?

-Is the USB device required every time you boot or just during installation?

-While this device may allow OS 10 to be installed, won't the driver situation be just like that of the OSx86 project?

-How will Apple respond to this?

-Will EFiX's EFI implementation be usable on traditional OSx86 DVDs?

 

Something of note is the EFiX contact page:

International dealers:

(If you can not find dealers in your region please contact us)

Germany

Россия

Украина

Taiwan R.O.C.

P.R.China

Japan

Korea

Notice here that the United States, along with many other countries are ignored. Also, netkas who has a sample of the device, stated:

they don't plan to sell it in US.

 

So, forget about dmcs in this case.

Thoughts?

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MrMookMook

Thanks for replying so quickly! I am very disapointed with the motherboards and why no love for NVIDIA motherboards. I'm waiting until my 2 GTX280 Graphics Cards to be supported.

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Stravaganza
Thanks for replying so quickly! I am very disapointed with the motherboards and why no love for NVIDIA motherboards. I'm waiting until my 2 GTX280 Graphics Cards to be supported.
Sorry to hear that.

 

One thing to remember is that EFiX is not a magical device. If Apple has never been adapted a device in their products, the device cannot be supported even with the perfect emulation of EFiX due to the lack of proper kexts. (nVidia chipset motherboards nor nVidia GTXes are never adapted in Apple products.)

 

If you are gonna wait for EFiX support of GTX280, the waiting time is bounded by Apple's adaption of the graphics card (not by EFiX's support for the graphics card). I think you might be able to use GTX280 by a means of backward compatibility now anyway.

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titooo

It sounds good but I’m still waiting for info about Efi-x for notebooks…

 

It seems that it just basically let’s you install Leopard from the original dvd and if you buy the “EFiX USB Deluxe / Sound” you won’t need to install any kexts. Am I right?

 

So if your motherboard isn’t supported, I guess I could install it anyway, but I’ll have to install the kexts as I’m doing with Kalyway now…. So aprt of the advantages as updates and things like that. Will be the performance better than Kalyway? will my computer work better with efi-x than with kalyway?

 

ps: sorry for my English, im still sleepy...

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Stravaganza
It seems that it just basically let’s you install Leopard from the original dvd and if you buy the “EFiX USB Deluxe / Sound” you won’t need to install any kexts. Am I right?
Yes and no depending on what you have on your laptop. If your laptop has all compatible components (I doubt it), you won't even need to buy EFiX's sound card.

 

As far as I see, EFiX device gets rid of the need for the following assuming your motherboard is supported by the device:

PC_EFI,

dsmos.kext,

modified AppleSMBIOS.kext,

modified AppleHDA.kext and ALCInject.kext or EFI string for audio (assuming audio CODEC is compaible),

Natit.kext or NVinject.kext or EFI string for graphics (assuming graphics card is compatible),

modified AppleACPIPlatform,

turn-off-all-cores trick.

 

In addition, it will make the following available, I believe:

temperature on processor and system,

battery indicator.

 

But then I don't see the point of all this fuzzy excitement on this device (now this credit goes to netkas). Well, that's just me. (All I am concerning now is with Snow Leopard's 64 bit kernel, I won't be able to use AppleAzaliaAudio.kext, which is a 32 bit driver, to turn on my ALC662. What on earth. I may stick to the 32 bit kernel version. It's not like I am gonna buy 4TB RAM.)

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titooo

Cool. Thanks for the explanation, I undesrtand it perfectly now.

 

Waiting to see the features of efi-x for laptops... Hope they release some info soon...

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macita

If i go to buy a car, and the seller say to me...THIS CAR CAN GO UP EVERY HILL WITHOUT PROBLEMS...i repeat to you EVERY HILLS...

 

then i go to buy a car and i discover that this car can go only up hills under 600 feets... :angel:

 

Do you not feel your self a bit cheated?

 

Is this a way to start a good commercial businness?

 

Honesty first... always.

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MrMookMook

When I go on the eFix website and try to view the pictures on the eFix for desktop PC's and then click on eFix USB 1 the pictures next to the eFix exclusive features are not viewable. A.k.a on Safari they have a question mark on the center of the picture. It could be just me or is this happening for everyone. I am only interested because I want to see the Interactive Boot Selector.

 

Thanks

MrMookMook

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Stravaganza
When I go on the eFix website and try to view the pictures on the eFix for desktop PC's and then click on eFix USB 1 the pictures next to the eFix exclusive features are not viewable. A.k.a on Safari they have a question mark on the center of the picture. It could be just me or is this happening for everyone. I am only interested because I want to see the Interactive Boot Selector.

 

Thanks

MrMookMook

It's not you. It's them. I cannot see the pictures with Internet Explorer on Vista either. Why don't you watch the video made by netkas? The pictures are not that different from the video, I think.
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Suhail

The pictures are not loading. This ain't browser specific since the wrong content type is being set for the JPG images. Basically the images are messed so no one can see them ;). Excellent for a new product :angel:

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titooo

And a little bit of more specific information about prices, comparision between system with kalyway, iatkos or leo4all and same system with efi-x. A finished website for example...

 

I also would like to see the efi-x creatoros posting here, but it seems they like to see us waiting...

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curlyboy

This is really not to different from apple the difference with the device is that there is a little more choice in hardware selection but for everyone here who hasnt at least got at a core cpu whats the point ..... might be an expensive way to find out your up {censored} creek hahaha without a paddle :mellow: they specifically say you can install on a regular pc well for me a regular pc is one off the shelf not 1 custom built

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Stravaganza

I don't think they make people wait on purpose. They are simply busy finishing the device as a product or finding distributors over seas. After all, it is a small company with a less-than-professional-looking CEO.

 

Now, off the topic.

Here is a more interesting entertaining development: http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=112109

(Finally some moderator deleted the linked thread. Thank you.)

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bs0d

you think the same people are making the website as making the devices .. if so ... doesnt convey professionalism.

 

mind you ... the whole site is shoddy.

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Stravaganza
you think the same people are making the website as making the devices .. if so ... doesnt convey professionalism.

 

mind you ... the whole site is shoddy.

Well, you guessed wrong. I don't assume anything about who's managing the website. I, however, think that the company is not professional enough as I implied in the previous post. And the following is my only assumption I made in the previous post: they are too small and unexperienced to do psychological warfare with their customers (Steve Jobs's favorite), i.e. making their customers wait in excitement on purpose, and they are still working on the release.
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parachute

I respect Netkas and all the talented developers who made OS X on x86 a reality. Trying to make money by this talent seems a bit dangerous to me. Selling a real product and talking about "Apple labeled computers" seem a bit dangerous. If I were you and wanted money, I'd use my talents on another platform which was accepted both legal and ethical.

 

Have you completed the copyright and trademark processes BTW? Do it and contact Apple. You can have a lot of money in a lot shorter time if you ask me. They will buy the product from you and consider what they can do with it before or after buying. This is their OS at last...

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Cybex

Any news on efi-x yet? There isn't much activity on the site at the moment, the release date is removed as well... Could it be delayed? Netkas, do you know more about this?

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titooo

No news mate... We were told to wait until 23rd and know we must wait until we don't know when.

why they didn't upload any pictures and prizes? They don't have it yet??

 

I think the product won't start to be sold until 2 weeks at least...

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