HP TX1000Z Tablet Compatibility with Leopard

[Trep]

I've been running Leo4All v2 on my tx1000z for a couple of weeks. I could go on about how much I've missed this OS, but I have a problem that is a dealbreaker.

 

It won't sleep.

 

Or rather, it won't sleep and wake. Sleep goes fine. The on light pulses rhythmically, the hard disks spin down, etc. Wake up is a non-event. The lights come on solid, the hard disk briefly spins up, and then nothing. Forever.

 

For me this is a no-compromise kind of problem. I need to move around with my tablet fairly regularly. It runs too hot with OSX to justify just putting it in the bag on... That and the no battery on boot makes it hella inconvenient to start up again.

 

Thing is, I can't really tell from this thread if other people have it working. It's been brought up before... and there is one response saying someone thinks it doesn't work. Can a few of you weigh in?

 

Are your sleeping MacTXBooks waking up?

[ggerman28]

TX2500 UPDATE!

managed to get Kalyway 10.5.2 installed. will post a how-to in the next few days.

 

for reals? I am so expecting!!!

 

Hope will see your post sooner~~ Nice job bro!

[wyzazz]

@trep

 

Mine wakes up from sleeping, but I have a tx2000z. I cannot boot from battery.

[james Vreeken]

I also would be very pleased if someone found a way around the install hang

everytime I try to install:

"Using ACPI RSDP Revison 2 found at 0x000fe020"

 

please help! I've tried all I can!

[iceman012]

thanks Rakko...solved my "problem"!

[willdriven]

Ok, I got everything installed, up and running. My sound is choppy though. I read somewhere else on the forum that you can fix this by adjusting the buffer for your sound card, however when I went to do that it says there is no built-in Audio when I go through 'About this Mac->More Info...'. Audio is playing through iTunes and YouTube though. Do I need to reinstall the audio driver so I can adjust the buffer or am I just looking in the wrong place? If the driver needs to be reinstalled, how do I do that? I have the leo4allv2 disc image.

[Rakko]

What's the deal with the TX2500?! Does ur video work yet?????

[dyjs1968]

I Will do it,all dolownd zhe driver,thanks all.

[orican]

as promised i will post a how-to guide for the tx2500.

i have decided to create a new topic for tx2500 since tx1000 and tx2000 is completely different computer.

http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=118357

[iceman012]

just had to do a complete reinstall..=( anyways i now keep on getting this message:

 

 

 

does anyone know how to fix that? i am the only user, and i have admin privlages! Thanks!

[Wingdom]

Two things. First: Will Apple switch to nVidia graphics? That would really make this easy on us, but it would be a ways off, probably right along with the release of Snow Leopard.

 

Sceond thing. Anyone know where the configuration files are located for tablet drivers (modbook, wacom, ect...)? I think I'm close to being able to get a fully working and calibrated touchscreen on the tx2000z.

 

Just a thought....are any of the ATI display drivers open source? if so, what ones? Everything I'm doing here is just speculation and isnt really based on anything that I have seen or heard, just ideas I get.

[james Vreeken]

try to repair permissions perhaps

[Wingdom]

@iceman012 You are trying to replace the PowerManagement.bundle with the one in the pack for the tx1000 right? If thats the case, an easy way to get around it is to just delete the original PowerManagement.bundle, and then drag the replacement file into its place. It should work.

 

I'm also still searching for the location of some of these tablet config files. I mostly work with Windows, so I have no clue where OSX places a lot of stuff, and right now I'm just taking stabs in the dark at where the files I need are. I found the Pen Tablet kext, and modified it so it should recognize the screen as a tablet, but I think that driver is specifically for what ever they use in the ModBook, and has no clue what to do with itself when it sees something else. Right now I'm messing with USB drivers from Wacom, but I'm starting to wonder if the calibration issues come from no proper display drivers, because when I can get to a calibration screen, it puts the 4 dots in what would be the corners of the screen if it were at 1024x768. I wonder......is it possible to make the drivers think it is 1280x800 like were doing with the video...?

[AmericanYellow]

Hey family,

 

Nice to post on the forums again. I stayed away from the forums because I was receiving too many PMs and it got distracting (staying away actually stopped the PM's!). But I'm letting you all know that I am still here.

 

Also, I am still on track with my Nvidia driver project. I do start school this Monday (unexpected), but I will keep working in the drivers as much as possible. I am planning(as promised and hopefully all goes to plan) the release date of our ALPHA drivers Late August Early Septmeber.

 

My only concern is the risk you guys will have testing these drivers cuz my computer has been repaired (failed BIOS, serious OS crashes, overheating issues) several times since I last posted testing the drivers. If I don't feel that the ALPHA is safe enough, I'll probably give it to few here who are willing to take a bullet for the community to test and give feedback on the drivers performance.

 

Till the ALPHA,

 

AmericanYellow

 

Da&* Mut@*&%YFu*&ing heck, my tx1000 warranty expires this month so no more free repairs.

 

And PLS no PM's except from BlueCopter, AlexDeWolf, the_29 and wyzazz. OOoo... and Mass-Face. It nice to see that BlueCopter came back.

[the_29]

Woohoo

Great to see that someone really work on it!

 

And i will test the alpha driver, even if it can kill the notebook..

[wyzazz]

@ American Yellow

 

Nice to hear back from you! I hope everything is going well for you (outside of the tx world). I will be willing to test the drivers for our tx2000 users, my warranty is still good until March 09. Again, Thanks for all your work!

[Dojomann]

Sweet. Been waiting for something new. Sweet stuff AmericanYellow.

 

Speaking of which I'm totally willing to test these drivers. 3 year warranty ftw.

[Dojomann]

Sort of a bump, but not to PM AmericanYellow:

 

I'm just wondering what you have to do to actually get it working, like as in what kext is causing the problem, etc. Just out of curiousity.

 

Also I can't thank you enough for your efforts, props to you! As well as everyone else who has contributed thus far (wyzazz, the_29, BlueCopter, etc.)

 

This is an awesome community.

[iceman012]

sorta an add on to Dojomann's question...i was just wondering what problems American Yellow's drivers will fix. I read that it would enable qr/ci support, but what features will that enable?

 

~Thanks

[El Massman]

hey, good to see you back again AmericanYellow. Sounds like you're making some serious progress. Do you mind me asking if you're creating a driver from scratch or if you've made changes to one of the pre-existing ones? I've tried messing round with some of the stuff from the ATI integrated driver project but came to a complete dead end.

 

@iceman012, i'm pretty sure enabling CI/QE is going to enable rotate as well, meaning we'll be able to use the tablet in portrait mode. you'll probably have a better chance of getting working sleep and of course there will be better compatibility for applications requiring CI/QE.

 

@everyone, i found some applescripts a while back which rotate the screen to portrait then back to landscape so i don't think it would be too hard to come up with a GUI for it. I'm thinking possibly just an icon that sits up by the clock. i'm not sure how hard it would be to get rotate on folding the screen down but i know that on windows it requires that the quicklaunch buttons are installed. that's also something else to look in to. going to google around and see if there's any linux source for the buttons. i can't see it requiring TOO much tweaking to get working seeing they are only buttons. that's if it exists at all.

 

regards,

 

Marc

[AmericanYellow]

@ Mass-Face: The driver is from scratch. I did a lot of research and with the help of a friend, in addition to inside help, it was possible to begin the project. As for the ATI driver, the guy that was suppose to help with that just never wanted to help. But I know my driver will be much more stable than the ATI hacked driver so i don't care about that anymore.

 

@Dojomann: The problem right now is that the coding for the driver components are very buggy and incomplete. It is incomplete because we have limited or in most cases no access to information driver developers needed. But we are slowly getting this info and learning how to use it to make a good driver. We are learning a lot/most from linux nvidia drivers though.

 

@iceman012: Hopefully the driver will fix any problem the is caused by the QE/CI being disabled. The last simulation run of the driver we tested ITunes and the coverflow feature in Itunes worked. So we are hoping that other apps should has FrontRow will work and believe that enabling QE/CI will allow our systems to run with more stability and allow us to get the full Mac experience.

 

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[iceman012]

oh wow, this is gonna be great! I have wanted to use phoybooth for a while! Great work!

[El Massman]

@AmericanYellow: That sounds really promising. That's enough to get leo back on my laptop. Been using XP recently for work which is about 10 times faster and more stable than vista so wouldn't have a huge problem saying goodbye to my vista partition. I haven't actually even booted into it for a few months. One last question, does your driver have a dependency on any of the in-built drivers? If so i wont bother with macvidia when i reinstall and will just keep all the graphics kexts stock to save any messing round later on.

 

The over-heating problems you've mentioned... something we really need to look into is throttling the CPU. I've noticed laptop temps soaring when using leo and i imagine it only gets worse when there's a load on the GPU too. With the AMD drivers under XP i can have the thing sitting on my lap which under leo actually burns me through my trousers, it stays RELATIVELY cool. I've looked into the ACPIThrottle thing but kept getting kernel panics. On looking into it further it think it may only be compatible with "cool n' quiet" and not Powernow! as used by our CPUs but i'm not certain. I encourage EVERYONE to have a play round with this if you don't mind reinstalling a few times. I would call this a VITAL feature that we're missing. If it turns out AmericanYellows driver is going to ride the GPU a little harder then it wouldn't hurt to lose a few degrees from somewhere else in the laptop. Hopefully that'll remove some of the overheating issues.

 

Regards,

 

Marc

 

While standing in front of the mirror brushing my teeth something just hit me. It's so obvious that i feel stupid for overlooking it, lol. The throttling kext, "ACPIThrottle" relies on ACPI if i am assuming correctly from the name, something which is broken on our laptops. The same reason we cant boot from battery and get a hang at boot. So the kernel panics i'd been experiencing may actually have been to do with that rather than powernow!. It may just be coincidental though.

 

Please, anyone who tries with this post your findings here. I still believe it to be a vital feature and one we should work towards implementing ASAP.

 

Goodnight everyone,

 

Marc

[Dojomann]

I just had a thought, I noticed in a thread for tx2500z laptops that they can boot from battery just fine. Weird.

 

They do have a different motherboard altogether, so I don't know what to really make of our situation.

 

Something to note, as we all know thus far we have to double tap our power buttons with the leo4all distro, and in my experiments with kalyway, you only have to tap the power button (well, slider thing in our case) once to get past that ACPI error; in this situation there is also a different number after the word "vectors" at that sequence.

[El Massman]

@Dojomann, i was thinking the same thing. the tx2500z guys are using the chameleon efi bootloader rather than EFIv8 that we're using. has anyone tried the tx1000/2000 with chameleon? i think that's the first thing i'm going to try tomorrow morining.

 

i really am going to bed now. it's nearly 3am here, lol.

 

 

Marc