newbmac Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 I Installed VMware and Parallels the other night on my E2160 (running at 3.2ghz) and they both seem to run great and fast for me. It seems Parallels might be a tad quicker. They don't exactly play games because of the video card drivers and such, but for applications It seems speedy for me!- Mike Thanks, I have had problems finding reviews on this aspect of the chip. as i said, I know I will need to run MS Office 2003 and a few other Winoze apps virtually... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83689-how-to-install-on-gigabyteasuscompatible-boards/page/30/#findComment-682254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
koldasice Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 well this card is the one i thought would work, its a 8600gt 256 ddr3, i dont need the 512 cause im not a real gamer, just wanna get the vmware going so i can still run my xp on it. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83689-how-to-install-on-gigabyteasuscompatible-boards/page/30/#findComment-682430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dci693 Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Thanks, I have had problems finding reviews on this aspect of the chip. as i said, I know I will need to run MS Office 2003 and a few other Winoze apps virtually...Office 2007 runs great under Parallels for me on my E2180. Then again, I have it overclocked, running at 2.8 Ghz and I'm feeding Parallels 1 Gb of memory. My hackintosh has 4 Gb in total. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83689-how-to-install-on-gigabyteasuscompatible-boards/page/30/#findComment-682474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpeugh Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 I installed the GUID again last night with the two different ATI drivers on the DVD and it went to a gray screen instead of a distorted one. I am thinking it is the graphics card that is holding it back but how can I get the Nanit kexts to it short of popping out the drive and hooking it up to an Intel Mac in a external case and physically placing the kexts there? And if so, where do they go? Thanks. I am getting the same error with GUID that I had with MBR. Can anybody point me in the right direction? It will boot after installation to the point where it kicks out of the white apple wheel spinning screen to the space view for 10.5 and dies right before the space screen. Anybody? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83689-how-to-install-on-gigabyteasuscompatible-boards/page/30/#findComment-682492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHicks Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 I've had this working for over a month now in a dual boot situation with windows xp. However windows xp has destroyed itself, not sure how, however it needs a complete re-install. Is it possible to re-install windows XP without reinstalling os x? And if so, is there anything i need to be aware of, e.g. what do I need to do to be able to boot back into os x once windows is re-installed? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83689-how-to-install-on-gigabyteasuscompatible-boards/page/30/#findComment-682500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dci693 Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 However, has anybody with a DS3L used the normal combo update method to update to 10.5.2? I tried twice yesterday and no matter what, it wouldn't boot. Bombed out at "Still waiting for root device." I've gotten that same error before when I tried changing my SATA mode in BIOS from "IDE Native" to "Legacy IDE," and some people say there is a fix for it, but I can't get it to work. I tried booting -s, but I can't even get to the terminal command prompt because it just keeps spitting out "Still waiting for root device." -x (safe mode) and -f (extensions rebuild) aren't working either. Any suggestions? If there's someone out there with a DS3L who has successfully updated to 10.5.2 using the normal combo update method, I would love to hear from you with your specs and experience! I have a DS3L and I used the normal (not Kalyway) combo update. I have SATA set to native, running with AHCI, OSX was installed using MBR. Rest of my spec's are in my signature. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83689-how-to-install-on-gigabyteasuscompatible-boards/page/30/#findComment-682789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubswinfllclssic Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 @cubswinfllclssicI used the Kalyway 10.5.2 combo update and then the Kernal updates and all works fine for me.. might want to give that a shot - Mike @thepunkerguy, what kernel updates? are those also released by Kalyway? Sorry if it's a dumb question... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83689-how-to-install-on-gigabyteasuscompatible-boards/page/30/#findComment-682882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpeugh Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 My problem is fixed. It was graphical in nature. Thank you nobody for helping me out and telling me about safebooting with -x. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83689-how-to-install-on-gigabyteasuscompatible-boards/page/30/#findComment-683080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbmac Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 My problem is fixed. It was graphical in nature. Thank you nobody for helping me out and telling me about safebooting with -x. What was wrong? what did you do? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83689-how-to-install-on-gigabyteasuscompatible-boards/page/30/#findComment-683654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtotho Posted March 26, 2008 Author Share Posted March 26, 2008 @cubwins, he is talking about the kernel package that is needed with the kalyway combo updater because it doesnt come witha kernel, you shouldnt need it since u are using the normal combo update. @anybody else, i believe the 7900 and 7800 series maybe a slightly better buy than 8600 in terms of price/performance. And definately, amount of Vram doesnt matter if u dont use it. best go with faster/cheaper card Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83689-how-to-install-on-gigabyteasuscompatible-boards/page/30/#findComment-684260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.mcgoo Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 I've had this working for over a month now in a dual boot situation with windows xp.However windows xp has destroyed itself, not sure how, however it needs a complete re-install. Is it possible to re-install windows XP without reinstalling os x? And if so, is there anything i need to be aware of, e.g. what do I need to do to be able to boot back into os x once windows is re-installed? It sounds like you have the two OS's on two partition on a single drive? I dual boot with XP by having it on a separate drive. Makes it so much simpler and less prone to 'accidents'. I suggest getting another hdd. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83689-how-to-install-on-gigabyteasuscompatible-boards/page/30/#findComment-684553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyman96 Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 I followed the installation guide for my Asus P5W DH Deluxe mobo. I formatted GUID and everything works except for my firewire. If I enable it in BIOS, it takes a really long time to start up and once it does, the firewire ports still will not work. When I disable it, the machine starts up right away but no firewire either. I updated to 10.5.2 using your instructions and that works ok as well. Any ideas? Thanks for your help. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83689-how-to-install-on-gigabyteasuscompatible-boards/page/30/#findComment-684958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
catjesus Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 hey guys, ive had my hacky for about 2 months now and its still having problems. i kept excusing it and assuming i was doing this or that wrong, but ive eliminated every thing i can think of. I'm running: DS3L, Q6600, IDE DVDRW, Leopard on SATA, a 2nd IDE drive (time machine), ati 2600xt, 2gb ballistix, etc. The machine runs very nice... until it kernel panics. I don't normally see it, I'll goto bed at night with the machine idling/downloading and wake up to find it unuresponsive (screen is blank, am forced to power off). Here's the real weird thing, at this poitn I have to KILL the power to the machine for a minute or so or else it will NOT boot back up (will get all kinds of whacky error messages). Apparently something nasty is lingering in the RAM?... Anyway, anyone have any ideas why the machine would tank when idling over night? I've tried disabling hard drive sleep, display sleep, machine sleep, etc. I also disconnected my IDE devices but it made no difference. Further more, I ran prime95 in Windows for an hour without any memory errors of the like creeping up. So, WTF!? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83689-how-to-install-on-gigabyteasuscompatible-boards/page/30/#findComment-685159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacUser2525 Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 hey guys, ive had my hacky for about 2 months now and its still having problems. i kept excusing it and assuming i was doing this or that wrong, but ive eliminated every thing i can think of. I'm running: DS3L, Q6600, IDE DVDRW, Leopard on SATA, a 2nd IDE drive (time machine), ati 2600xt, 2gb ballistix, etc. The machine runs very nice... until it kernel panics. I don't normally see it, I'll goto bed at night with the machine idling/downloading and wake up to find it unuresponsive (screen is blank, am forced to power off). Here's the real weird thing, at this poitn I have to KILL the power to the machine for a minute or so or else it will NOT boot back up (will get all kinds of whacky error messages). Apparently something nasty is lingering in the RAM?... Anyway, anyone have any ideas why the machine would tank when idling over night? I've tried disabling hard drive sleep, display sleep, machine sleep, etc. I also disconnected my IDE devices but it made no difference. Further more, I ran prime95 in Windows for an hour without any memory errors of the like creeping up. So, WTF!? I have the same board/processor they work great together my longest uptime was ~18 days I would sugggest searching on then downloading and running the mprime255 program so you can do the stress testing under the problem OS namely OSX, I would let it go for at least 5-6 hours maybe even all night/day long. Also IDE drives in my experience are nothing but trouble on the Jmicron controller I even have mine disabled in the BIOS so it never gets used you may want to try similar. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83689-how-to-install-on-gigabyteasuscompatible-boards/page/30/#findComment-685193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
catjesus Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 I have the same board/processor they work great together my longest uptime was ~18 days I would sugggest searching on then downloading and running the mprime255 program so you can do the stress testing under the problem OS namely OSX, I would let it go for at least 5-6 hours maybe even all night/day long. Also IDE drives in my experience are nothing but trouble on the Jmicron controller I even have mine disabled in the BIOS so it never gets used you may want to try similar. ah i didn't realize there was a prime95 for mac. excellent. however, i already know its gonna tank... im thinking it could be the GPU (2600xt) since thats the component no one else on here seems to have (with the mobo + cpu as well). I'll try just killing jmicron completely and see what happens. What version of the bios are you running? I think I'm on F7 but I know there is an F8 I haven't bothered with... also any other interesting settings you have set that might help out? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83689-how-to-install-on-gigabyteasuscompatible-boards/page/30/#findComment-685281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacUser2525 Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 im thinking it could be the GPU (2600xt) since thats the component no one else on here seems to have (with the mobo + cpu as well). What version of the bios are you running? I think I'm on F7 but I know there is an F8 I haven't bothered with... also any other interesting settings you have set that might help out? Good point I always use nVidia and have a 8800gt in it now running on the original F6 BIOS I got it with, the settings that I have other than default are the NX enabled, HPET set to 64bit, the Speedstep disabled, the C1E and TM2 enabled plus my overclocking settings in the M.I.T. of 9X multiplier set to 350 for the FSB with a 2X ram multiplier 4-4-4-12 for the timings normal voltages for everything. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83689-how-to-install-on-gigabyteasuscompatible-boards/page/30/#findComment-685316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubswinfllclssic Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 i see you overclocked your e4600. i have an e4500 and was thinking of ocing it. is it hard to do and how risky is it?i dont want to fry a $120. i built this machine for exactly $299, by using the ide hdd and burner i had in my old b&w g3. so you know im being cheap here. lol/ I'd say it's one of the easiest overclocks in the world. The 4600 has a 12x multiplier (I think the 4500 is 11?) and all I had to do was bump up the FSB from 200MHz to 250MHz and adjust the RAM from 800 to 1000 (automatic on DS3L mobo). It isn't that risky-- I've seen them go a lot higher. It's stable, too; running mid-30's celsius idle. Never hit over 50 full load. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83689-how-to-install-on-gigabyteasuscompatible-boards/page/30/#findComment-685433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhyguy Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Would the dualboot guide work with vista installed first? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83689-how-to-install-on-gigabyteasuscompatible-boards/page/30/#findComment-685816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacUser2525 Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Would the dualboot guide work with vista installed first? You always want to install windows first in any dual boot it has the nasty habit of writing over any bootloader that is already installed. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83689-how-to-install-on-gigabyteasuscompatible-boards/page/30/#findComment-685878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottoman1384 Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 I'd say it's one of the easiest overclocks in the world. The 4600 has a 12x multiplier (I think the 4500 is 11?) and all I had to do was bump up the FSB from 200MHz to 250MHz and adjust the RAM from 800 to 1000 (automatic on DS3L mobo). It isn't that risky-- I've seen them go a lot higher. It's stable, too; running mid-30's celsius idle. Never hit over 50 full load. ok, i went ahead and tried it. i also did 250mhz and it is now at 2.75 ghz. my temp is at a steady 40 celsius. is that fine? the problem i think is that my computer is in a closet. should i add a fan? i also made the pcie stay at 100mhz. is that ok? or should i have left it at auto? You always want to install windows first in any dual boot it has the nasty habit of writing over any bootloader that is already installed. what if i install xp on a seperate harddrive? i already have os 10.5.2 installed and really dont want to mess with it. thanks for the help in advance... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83689-how-to-install-on-gigabyteasuscompatible-boards/page/30/#findComment-685926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacUser2525 Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 ok, i went ahead and tried it. i also did 250mhz and it is now at 2.75 ghz. my temp is at a steady 40 celsius. is that fine? the problem i think is that my computer is in a closet. should i add a fan? i also made the pcie stay at 100mhz. is that ok? or should i have left it at auto? 40 is great especially in a restricted space like a closet and you want the pci-e set to the proper fixed rate it saves you problems if the auto is not really setting it properly and it gets way out of wack like it running at 115 say when you overclock. what if i install xp on a seperate harddrive? i already have os 10.5.2 installed and really dont want to mess with it. thanks for the help in advance... Different hard drive does not matter there only thing to look out for is if your OSX install is the first drive then if it is a MBR install windows can overwrite the MBR on you making the OSX un-bootable and if GUID install then windows will tell you that it cannot install its bootloader because it does not recognize the drive so you really want to disconnect the power from the OSX drive when you install windows to prevent these problems. Now once you reconnect the OSX drive then if either of the OS's do not want to boot properly you may need to either use your Boot Menu if available mine is pressing F12 when booting to give you the choice which drive you want to boot this makes it think it is the first drive in the system as it was when it was installed and should let it continue or you may need to go into the BIOS and change what is called the drive order this does the same as the first option except it is a PITA to do every time you boot a different OS. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83689-how-to-install-on-gigabyteasuscompatible-boards/page/30/#findComment-685976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbmac Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Bluetooth Is there a way with the Asus or Gigabyte boards to get bluetooth working via an add on or something? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83689-how-to-install-on-gigabyteasuscompatible-boards/page/30/#findComment-686139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottoman1384 Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 40 is great especially in a restricted space like a closet and you want the pci-e set to the proper fixed rate it saves you problems if the auto is not really setting it properly and it gets way out of wack like it running at 115 say when you overclock. Different hard drive does not matter there only thing to look out for is if your OSX install is the first drive then if it is a MBR install windows can overwrite the MBR on you making the OSX un-bootable and if GUID install then windows will tell you that it cannot install its bootloader because it does not recognize the drive so you really want to disconnect the power from the OSX drive when you install windows to prevent these problems. Now once you reconnect the OSX drive then if either of the OS's do not want to boot properly you may need to either use your Boot Menu if available mine is pressing F12 when booting to give you the choice which drive you want to boot this makes it think it is the first drive in the system as it was when it was installed and should let it continue or you may need to go into the BIOS and change what is called the drive order this does the same as the first option except it is a PITA to do every time you boot a different OS. thanks for the help. about xp and osx, you're saying just to go ahead and remove the os x hdd and install xp on the spare hdd. then after that set the boot order and if i want to boot to the other one(in this case xp) then hit f12 at boot up and it should give me an option of selecting the xp drive.?? just want to make sure i have this right. another question, right now i have my osx installed on an ide drive. i have a bigger sata drive that im going to install (just waiting for molex to sata connections). will i be able to clone the ide drive and copy it over to a partition on the sata drive?? and can i partition the ide drive after and install xp and use the 2nd partition of the ide drive in osx?? thanks again guys Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83689-how-to-install-on-gigabyteasuscompatible-boards/page/30/#findComment-686159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubswinfllclssic Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 @ottoman Agreed, 40 C isn't bad for a closet. Also, I just found out today that if you delete AppleCPUThermo.kext and AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement.kext from /System/Library/Extensions (don't forget to delete Extensions.mkext from /System/Library too), your CPU runs a LOT cooler. I was running at 43/44 C idle and after I deleted these kexts my processor is now at 31 C idle. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83689-how-to-install-on-gigabyteasuscompatible-boards/page/30/#findComment-686176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacUser2525 Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 thanks for the help. about xp and osx, you're saying just to go ahead and remove the os x hdd and install xp on the spare hdd. then after that set the boot order and if i want to boot to the other one(in this case xp) then hit f12 at boot up and it should give me an option of selecting the xp drive.?? just want to make sure i have this right. No need to remove the drive just disconnect the power from it install xp to new drive then once done connect it back up. For the F12 that is what my board uses to select the drive/device you want to boot for instance if I want to boot my external USB it can be different for your board. What is your machines specs anyways I joined this part of the discussion late and did not get it? another question, right now i have my osx installed on an ide drive. i have a bigger sata drive that im going to install (just waiting for molex to sata connections). will i be able to clone the ide drive and copy it over to a partition on the sata drive?? Yes diskutil can do that easily although you are a little out of my knowledge for the dual boot part I have no clue there. I can tell you how to do it using only OSX on the new drive I have done that many times cloning to my external and a couple of new drives in my machine, I just don't know where the EFI bootloader files would go in a dual boot configuration. and can i partition the ide drive after and install xp and use the 2nd partition of the ide drive in osx?? thanks again guys Yes you can do that seeing as your IDE seems to be working fine without any kernel panics so you can continue to use that drive partitioned as you want. You may just be better off using the IDE for OSX and just putting a partition on the SATA for your use there in OSX. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83689-how-to-install-on-gigabyteasuscompatible-boards/page/30/#findComment-686183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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