[HOW TO] INSTALL ON GIGABYTE/ASUS/COMPATIBLE BOARDS

[ottoman1384]

@ottomanAgreed, 40 C isn't bad for a closet. Also, I just found out today that if you delete AppleCPUThermo.kext and AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement.kext from /System/Library/Extensions (don't forget to delete Extensions.mkext from /System/Library too), your CPU runs a LOT cooler. I was running at 43/44 C idle and after I deleted these kexts my processor is now at 31 C idle.

 

what do those files originally do? and why does the temperature go down so much?

 

No need to remove the drive just disconnect the power from it install xp to new drive then once done connect it back up. For the F12 that is what my board uses to select the drive/device you want to boot for instance if I want to boot my external USB it can be different for your board. What is your machines specs anyways I joined this part of the discussion late and did not get it?Yes diskutil can do that easily although you are a little out of my knowledge for the dual boot part I have no clue there. I can tell you how to do it using only OSX on the new drive I have done that many times cloning to my external and a couple of new drives in my machine, I just don't know where the EFI bootloader files would go in a dual boot configuration. Yes you can do that seeing as your IDE seems to be working fine without any kernel panics so you can continue to use that drive partitioned as you want. You may just be better off using the IDE for OSX and just putting a partition on the SATA for your use there in OSX.

 

ok here are my stats:

OttoMac:

-Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L

-Intel Core 2 Duo e4500 2.2GHz @ 2.75GHz

-2x1GB 800MHz DDRII SDRAM

-geforce 7300gt 256mb

-80GB IDE HDD running Leopard

-250GB SATA not installed yet-Wireless Card, recognized as Airport Card-belonged to B&W G3

-Samsung 20x Sata Dvd burner

 

I haven't installed the sata drives because im waiting for my shipment of molex to sata connections to arrive.

 

i wanted leopard on the sata drive because of improved performance. am i right in assuming that the sata will improve my os performance?

seems the games i have installed do not load that fast on this ide drive. not sure though. it might just be me...t

 

hanks again for the help guys.

 

by the way macuser what kind of system do you have?

[MacUser2525]

what do those files originally do? and why does the temperature go down so much?

 

 

 

ok here are my stats:

OttoMac:

-Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L <-- same board revision 2.0 F6 BIOS

-Intel Core 2 Duo e4500 2.2GHz @ 2.75GHz <-- Q6600 @3150MHz (9x350)

-2x1GB 800MHz DDRII SDRAM <-- 4x2GB @700Mhz

-geforce 7300gt 256mb <-- Geforce 8800GT 512mb

-80GB IDE HDD running Leopard <-- 500GB SATA

-250GB SATA not installed yet-Wireless Card, recognized as Airport Card-belonged to B&W G3

-Samsung 20x Sata Dvd burner <-- Pioneer 212D 18x SATA

 

I haven't installed the sata drives because im waiting for my shipment of molex to sata connections to arrive.

 

i wanted leopard on the sata drive because of improved performance. am i right in assuming that the sata will improve my os performance?

seems the games i have installed do not load that fast on this ide drive. not sure though. it might just be me...t

 

It should improve the performance especially if the drive is SATA II with a larger cache plus you get things like the native command queing for better read/write command ordering. What I would suggest you do once the adapter arrives is install the SATA drive and boot OSX it will then offer to initalize the new drive with diskutil accept this. Once it opens partition and format the new drive for use with OSX you do this by selecting the new drive and choosing then Partition once in the Partition window choose the Option button and select GUID for scheme exit out of it and choose your one, two however many partitions you want really on the new drive on the right you can change the names an size of the new partition once you have clicked on them use Mac OS Extended (Journaled) for the formatting then Apply to have it done. Then once this is done you can get around to cloning your old install to the new by selecting it and choosing Restore then simply drag your existing partition to the Source box and the new location dragged to Destination box click the erase checkbox and click Restore confirm you want to do it and wait while it copies over the install. Now you would want to have gotten the EFI V8 files from the attachment to this thread then extracted them somewhere on your IDE HD install opened a terminal and used "cd /path/to/pc_efi_v80" without the quotes to change into the directory containing the files. Back in diskutil you want to click on the cloned install partition then click on the i button for the info on the partition and write down the Disk Identifier: ?????? number something like disk0s2 then choose Unmount while selected for every partition on the new drive. This last step actually installs the EFI boot loader in the terminal again use the following commands.

 

 sudo -s   <-- type in password when asked then enter key
./startupfiletool /dev/rdisk0s2 ./boot_v8
dd if=./guid/boot1h of=/dev/rdisk0s2 bs=512 count=1
dd if=./guid/boot0 of=/dev/disk0 bs=400 count=1

 

Which you would change the 0s2 and 0 parts in the commands (/dev/rdisk0s2 & /dev/disk0) to match the ouput of what you got from the Info of diskutil you wrote down in other words if disk1s2 then it would be /dev/rdisk1s2 & /dev/disk1 in the lines. You would see output like the below when using the commands and once the last one is completed then your new disk should be mounted and appear on your desktop again.

 

 bash-3.2# ./startupfiletool /dev/rdisk0s2 ./boot_v8
HFS+ filesystem detected
Looking for 1 words free
reading 4096,4096
Marking word 410
writing back 4096,4096
allocated blocks 32 at start 13120
bash-3.2# dd if=./guid/boot1h of=/dev/rdisk0s2 bs=512 count=1
1+0 records in
1+0 records out
512 bytes transferred in 0.012084 secs (42370 bytes/sec)
bash-3.2# dd if=./guid/boot0 of=/dev/disk0 bs=400 count=1
1+0 records in
1+0 records out
400 bytes transferred in 0.035598 secs (11237 bytes/sec)

 

You would now reboot use the F12 key to get the Boot menu go to Hard Drives and choose the new drive to boot from once you have confirmed the cloning went well you can shutdown then disconnect new SATA drive put your xp install disk in the drvie and install it on the old IDE drive. Of course its your machine so you can do it any way you want but this makes the most sense to me as you will run into trouble trying to install xp on a SATA drive set to AHCI mode in the BIOS which really is the only way that makes sense as it is faster than the legacy mode so you would need to switch back and forth in the BIOS for XP which you may well have to do anyways as I believe you cannot have the HPET set to 64bit like you need for OSX and still install a 32bit windows OS another thing to look out for I guess.

 

by the way macuser what kind of system do you have?

 

Put them in by yours.

pc_efi_v80.zip

[catjesus]

D-Link bluetooth module works no problemo, nothing to install.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...ink%2bbluetoothi use it to accommodate my bluetooth mighty mouse

Good point I always use nVidia and have a 8800gt in it now running on the original F6 BIOS I got it with, the settings that I have other than default are the NX enabled, HPET set to 64bit, the Speedstep disabled, the C1E and TM2 enabled plus my overclocking settings in the M.I.T. of 9X multiplier set to 350 for the FSB with a 2X ram multiplier 4-4-4-12 for the timings normal voltages for everything.

oy vay, well the problem appears to be that I'm using the JMicron driver to run my IDE dvdrw and 500gb drive. I have my display set to never sleep so this time when it finally kernel panic'd I'd have a clue as to what was going on-- transmission was downloading files while Time Machine was tring to back up (both writing ot my 500gb on IDE). I did a little searching and found other ppl reporting problems with ds3l and jmicron, specifically when using transmission and burning cds (another practice that often leads me to a kernel panic).So, are you running 100% SATA or have you had success with IDE on the ds3l? I need to confirm what the problem really is before I order a SATA dvdrw and, i guess, a new drive.

[MacUser2525]

D-Link bluetooth module works no problemo, nothing to install.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...ink%2bbluetoothi use it to accommodate my bluetooth mighty mouse oy vay, well the problem appears to be that I'm using the JMicron driver to run my IDE dvdrw and 500gb drive. I have my display set to never sleep so this time when it finally kernel panic'd I'd have a clue as to what was going on-- transmission was downloading files while Time Machine was tring to back up (both writing ot my 500gb on IDE). I did a little searching and found other ppl reporting problems with ds3l and jmicron, specifically when using transmission and burning cds (another practice that often leads me to a kernel panic).So, are you running 100% SATA or have you had success with IDE on the ds3l? I need to confirm what the problem really is before I order a SATA dvdrw and, i guess, a new drive.

 

Yeah all SATA I can get a kernel panic anytime I want by just connecting a IDE drive and putting the system under load although from posts I have read this seems to relate to amount of ram installed eg. more than ~3gb.

[luh3417]

Does that temperature monitor give accurate results for anyone? It says both my cores are at 49C. That frightened me a bit. I went into my BIOS and it says, 34-35C per core.

Temperature Monitor gave me accurate readings for my q6600 CPU. I changed to an e6600 CPU and it started reading 20 degrees C high. IMHO Temperature Monitor has not been updated for hackintosh and osx86 and YMMV. But I think its ok to go back to the BIOS temperature readings (or boot into XP), and figure out that "OK its always off by x degrees". Hoping to get ahold of a q9300 or q9450 and see what happens for performance and overclock (and temperature).

 

Re: video cards, every week or two there is a new guide out there about which video cards give the bang-for-the-buck of-the-day. I've seen 8800GT's for $200 and 9600GT's (not yet supported on osx86) for $150. But the 7300GT is entirely adequate. There really are not that many 3D games for the Mac. Unless you plan to dual boot into Windows and play your games there, I think the 7300GT is fine. There are models with 2 DVI outputs that can drive dual 1920x1200 monitors. For example I have one from XFX. I think one of the DVI outputs on that is even Dual-Link so maybe even fatter monitors (one anyway) can be driven.

 

What's the best way to share disk images? That is, once I have one install working, create a file that is an image of the entire disk, then share that. I had used "dd" successfully, but want something more flexible. I mean it seems like OS X is like linux where an installed hard disk wakes up in whatever computer you stuck it in looks at the hardware and finds a way to work, unlike Windows which if it wakes up in a different hardware environment tries to find a way to NOT work.

 

Triple or Quad monitors from dual graphics cards, anyone got this going, I've searched quite a bit. Closest I found was "Re: NVinject - yet another TITAN/NATIT clone...". In this thread we are in that boat, using NVInject. The other thread simply said both video cards had better be identical. Said "he saw one guy using 2 identical nVidia cards". I may have the hardware available in a couple weeks and will report any results.

 

@MacUser2525 you're right, my q6600 was a G0 SLACR. The e6600 was very old, not sure how to check the stepping/rev from within OS X. Maybe similar math will apply to C1 and M1 steppings on the new 45nm CPUs depending on their ratings. Of course the best thing would be if Temperature Monitor were revised, or we could find an alternative.

[MacUser2525]

Temperature Monitor gave me accurate readings for my q6600 CPU. I changed to an e6600 CPU and it started reading 20 degrees C high. IMHO Temperature Monitor has not been updated for hackintosh and osx86 and YMMV. But I think its ok to go back to the BIOS temperature readings (or boot into XP), and figure out that "OK its always off by x degrees". Hoping to get ahold of a q9300 or q9450 and see what happens for performance and overclock (and temperature).

 

It should always be off by about 15C for a revision B chip like you put in as the program is calibrated for the chips used in a Mac like the revision G you must have had in before, the G's are rated for 100C the B's at 85C this gives you the error you see when it is reading it.

[catjesus]

Yeah all SATA I can get a kernel panic anytime I want by just connecting a IDE drive and putting the system under load although from posts I have read this seems to relate to amount of ram installed eg. more than ~3gb.

 

RAM appears to be irrelevant! I've had my machine going for the past 8 hours running transmission + time machine without a single hiccup. Boot time is about twice as fast now as well, having IDE completely disabled in my bios (and thus JMicron kexts not loading) and i think there are less errors when starting with -v flag (i used to have crypted network errors and what not, even though everything worked- now they dont show up).

 

Guess I have to buy myself a new dvdrw and hard drive

thanks for your help/support!

[ottoman1384]

@macuser

 

dude, you are awesome. great tutorial. followed step by step and now im booting up into leopard on my new sata drive. have three partitions on that drive. one for leopard, one for backup and one for movies.

 

i still have questions though. im gonna go ahead and install vista. i can get any windows for free through my school. should i go with the vista 64 ultimate or 32?

 

also, do i reformat my ide drive during vista install or in os x before vista install? and what do i format it to? guid?

 

once i have vista installed and everything, im going to reconnect the sata drive. what i dont get is if i just have to press f12 to choose which os to start up in?... will it be that easy or will i have to boot up into the bios, change some setting and then press f12?

 

thanks again for the help.

[deleted_account]

Yeah all SATA I can get a kernel panic anytime I want by just connecting a IDE drive and putting the system under load although from posts I have read this seems to relate to amount of ram installed eg. more than ~3gb.

 

Can you share which posts you've read that info from? (Or just PM me, if it's off-topic). Thanks! My situation here is, I do have an External IDE/PATA drive in a USB enclosure (Seagate Barracuda 650gb), now I'm trying to figure out why sometimes I drag files into that drive and kernel panics happen (not as often, but it does happen occasionally, esepecially for .webloc files).

[durro]

My install went very well followed the dual boot for ax and leo no problems at all... Use an IDE dvd drive and it went perfectly got it up to 10.5.2 and its useing the vanila kernel updates work.. Havent tested sleep but restart and shutdown do.

 

Motherboard used DS3L

[syrian_gamer]

i still have questions though. im gonna go ahead and install vista. i can get any windows for free through my school. should i go with the vista 64 ultimate or 32?

 

i would say go for the 32 bit edition because it has much better driver support when compared to the 64. also unless you really NEED 8gb of ram which even with 2-3 is absolutly fine, i would suggest going with the 32.

[SirTazman]

I have just install Kalyway 10.5.1 on my system and then upgraded to 10.5.2

I had some problem getting EFI booted on the GIUD so I went back to MBR and the install worked Fist time. Thanks to nemo in the IRC channel. He suggested the MBR thing.

I installed the latest NVinstaller V.41 first reboot didn't come up, but the second one worked great. Also when I changed the resolution to match my Samsung 22" moitor, it hung for a while. - Be patient.

I used the Audio files from this thread with proper audio out (I haven't tried the digital yet)

Everything else was from Kalyway 10.5.1 DVD and 10.5.2 uppdate.

 

I have tried a Creative Bleutooth USB dongle and it works without anything extra installed.

I have moved over iDVD, iMovie HD, Garage Band and iPhoto from my MacBook Pro with no problems.

 

List of software that I have tried.

Working- iMovie HD, iDVD, iPhoto, Garage Band, Burn, FireFox, Transmission, iTerm, Cocktail (to Fix network issue), Photo Booth, Quicktime, iTunes, Time Machine, CoRD, DivX for Mac OSX, Hand Break, iStop Motion, Google Picasa Web Uploader and Adobe CS3.

 

 

System Spec's

Gigabyte P35-DS3L with onboard sound working (2channel, USB -10ports, )

Intel Core 2 Duo E4600 (2.48GHz)

OCZ Gold Rev 4 - 4.5.5.12 - PC26400 (running 900MHz)

Maxtor 6B300S0 SATA Hard Drive

eVGA 8600GT 256Meg PCIe Video (1680 x 1050 @60Hz)

LiteOn PATA DL DVD+-RW 20x

TI 1394 PCI card

Creative USB Bluetooth

External eSATA 320gig Backup drive (Time Machine working)

 

Thnaks to everyone that helped and Expecially MTOTHO and nemo!

[MacUser2525]

RAM appears to be irrelevant! I've had my machine going for the past 8 hours running transmission + time machine without a single hiccup. Boot time is about twice as fast now as well, having IDE completely disabled in my bios (and thus JMicron kexts not loading) and i think there are less errors when starting with -v flag (i used to have crypted network errors and what not, even though everything worked- now they dont show up).Guess I have to buy myself a new dvdrw and hard drive thanks for your help/support!

I meant the ram idea was relevent when you have 4gb or more installed using the Jmicron IDE and I pretty much have always used the -v when booting as I modified the startup file to give me the messages every time I boot, I'm kind of anal that way I like to see what is going on when my machines boot all them years of Linux I guess.

@macuserdude, you are awesome. great tutorial. followed step by step and now im booting up into leopard on my new sata drive. have three partitions on that drive. one for leopard, one for backup and one for movies.

Good to see you got it going.

i still have questions though. im gonna go ahead and install vista. i can get any windows for free through my school. should i go with the vista 64 ultimate or 32?

64bit is the way to go it saves you screwing with the setting in the BIOS to set the HPET to 32bit when you want to boot a 32bit OS.

also, do i reformat my ide drive during vista install or in os x before vista install? and what do i format it to? guid?

Yes just format the IDE with the vista when installing it will default to MBR formatted with a ntfs filesystem as all windows installs do if you want to share files between the windows and OSX then you may want a two partition scheme with the second one being a FAT32 partition then both OS's can read/write to it.

once i have vista installed and everything, im going to reconnect the sata drive. what i dont get is if i just have to press f12 to choose which os to start up in?... will it be that easy or will i have to boot up into the bios, change some setting and then press f12?

Should only have to press F12 when you want to boot the OSX as it should default to the IDE being the first drive in the system so it would boot straight to windows by default, if you want to change this then use the boot order option in your BIOS to set the SATA to the first drive then you would need the F12 for windows boot.

thanks again for the help.

Your welcome.

Can you share which posts you've read that info from? (Or just PM me, if it's off-topic). Thanks! My situation here is, I do have an External IDE/PATA drive in a USB enclosure (Seagate Barracuda 650gb), now I'm trying to figure out why sometimes I drag files into that drive and kernel panics happen (not as often, but it does happen occasionally, esepecially for .webloc files).

Sure got it from personal experience playing around with the cofigurations when I was getting the panics myself on a spare/my main machine when I tried it. My external enclosures with IDE drives in them work fine and I have literally copied the full 500gb capacity to them taking hours to do so going from one external to the other, so I am not sure what you have going on there my files are all video/audio plus some normal backup files no .webloc whatever those are. What are they anyways??

[ottoman1384]

@macuser

 

thanks again. installed vista 64. im able to boot to both osx and vista by pressing f12 at bootup.

 

everything seems to run fine on both.

 

i've heard quite a few things about enabling or disabling ahci. what should i do in my current setup?

[mtotho]

AHCI WORKS WITH ALL PORTS ON ICH9® NOW. I POSTED FIX IN POST 1 (in various spots).

 

Enabled AHCI after installing the kexts. Reboot with AHCI. AHCI is much better. It will fix 4gb of ram issues.

 

Good luck.

[luh3417]

Awesome news about the AHCI! Love that hack pro ad. Take a look at the new Centurion 590 case too. A Centurion 590 with an Icy-dock hot swap cage is what I'm using.

 

Just wanted to point out that for less than $10 there are little IDE-to-SATA boards you can stick on the IDE plug on the back of your IDE drives and make them into SATA. Seems a simple way to avoid the various IDE problems everyone reports. I've not tried them on DVD drives yet though. Either that or relegate your IDE drives to external USB or firewire enclosures.

[syrian_gamer]

hey mtotho,

 

i was just wondering which version of OS X were u using for your guide? Kalaway or was it jsut the regular disk?

[mtotho]

It was kalyway. I am not suggesting there are no other ways to do it.

[MacUser2525]

@macuser

 

thanks again. installed vista 64. im able to boot to both osx and vista by pressing f12 at bootup.

 

everything seems to run fine on both.

 

i've heard quite a few things about enabling or disabling ahci. what should i do in my current setup?

 

Your welcome as mtotho says the AHCI is better which is what I use as well so you may want to give it a try and although not entirely positive I am pretty sure that vista has the drivers for AHCI builtin so it should be able to just boot once you make the change with xp you had to go through a convoluted process to get it working if it was installed without them in the first place.

[Claisen]

Great guide, everything's worked well for me until just now. I installed the new AHCI kexts and now Leopard won't boot. I get the circle with the slash through it over the grey apple boot screen. Any advice? I'm running the D3L with WD 750gb SATA.

 

Edit: Well I turned off AHCI and now Leopard boots okay. Hmm.

[mtotho]

Great guide, everything's worked well for me until just now. I installed the new AHCI kexts and now Leopard won't boot. I get the circle with the slash through it over the grey apple boot screen. Any advice? I'm running the D3L with WD 750gb SATA.

 

Edit: Well I turned off AHCI and now Leopard boots okay. Hmm.

The kexts to give all 4 sata ports w/AHCI?

[Claisen]

The kexts to give all 4 sata ports w/AHCI?

 

Yeah. I loaded the AHCI FIX kexts and the "get rid of the orange drives" kexts in the same session, rebooted, and then it got stuck on the grey screen as I wrote about above.

[Claisen]

Now I see why there was a problem - the AHCI fix kexts and the ones you posted to change the orange drive icons overlap. I installed just the AHCI fix kexts and everything works okay. Is there any way to change the drive icons from orange back to grey without overwriting the AHCI fix kexts?

[mtotho]

hmm, my only guess is u install them inccorectly. perhaps u installed only 1 of the 2 files for getting rid of orange drives, or permissions didnt repair correctly. Also i dont know how the fix for orange drives and this new kexts play together, so just try one.

[MacUser2525]

Now I see why there was a problem - the AHCI fix kexts and the ones you posted to change the orange drive icons overlap. I installed just the AHCI fix kexts and everything works okay. Is there any way to change the drive icons from orange back to grey without overwriting the AHCI fix kexts?

 

I remember seeing a thread on here where all you had to do was change the icons themselves didn't bookmark it though so have no clue where it is...