MadDoggyca Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 All right all you WIndows FanBoys... you take a point this time... Vista fanboys take a Point... OSX user lose 5 points... ------------------------------------------------- July 22, 2007 (Computerworld) -- Windows Vista's share of online users has increased every month this year, while rival Mac OS X -- to which Vista has often been compared -- has shown little, if any, growth, a metrics company reports. According to Net Applications, in June Windows Vista accounted for 4.52% of all systems that browsed the Web, up from January's 0.18%. Vista grew its usage share each month since its release to consumers Jan. 30, hitting 0.93% in February, 2.04% in March, 3.02% in April and 3.74% in May. Apple Inc.'s Mac OS X, meanwhile, accounted for 6.22% in January, hit its high point of 6.46% in May, but slipped back to 6% in June. If Vista's uptake trend continues, it should pass Mac OS X in Web usage share by the end of August. Shifts from the Mac OS X running on older PowerPC processors to the edition running on Intel CPUs have been constant, but by Net Applications' data, the Cupertino, Calif. computer maker is not making new Mac converts. In January, for example, the PowerPC version of Mac OS X was reported by 4.34% of the machines Net Applications tracked, while the Intel version accounted for just 1.88%. June's numbers showed that the PowerPC edition of the OS still held the lead, but the gap had narrowed considerably: older versions were pegged at 3.52% and Intel editions at 2.48%. Likewise, Vista's increases have come at the expense of Windows XP and Windows 2000, both which have dropped in usage since January. Windows XP, for instance, accounted for 85.02% of all machines that month, but was down to 81.94% in June. Windows over total has remained flat, ranging between 90.01% and 90.46% through the first six months of the year. Net Applications' 6% share for Mac OS X jibes with recent IDC sales estimates, which put Apple's portion at 5.6% of all personal computer sales in the U.S. during the second quarter. Apple's next major upgrade to Mac OS X, dubbed Leopard, is scheduled to ship in October. Source ::::: http://www.computerworld.com/action/articl...p;intsrc=kc_top ------------------------------------- Microsoft Loser 50 Points.... 10 to 1 all the vista OS out ther are pireted.(notices the OEM Bios driver simulation crack has not been blocked yet??)..... like wise this is why windows alwas win in overall users... How ever MS still makes money off of pireted software... not like that Halo 2 for vista runs on osx or linux and u can;t play a pirted copy on live... see how ms still wins when people still steal? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57890-vista-use-grows-as-mac-os-x-stays-flat/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayanami Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 Hate to say it, but I just re-installed Vista on my MacBook Pro. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57890-vista-use-grows-as-mac-os-x-stays-flat/#findComment-413475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apowerr Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 I prefer Windows to OS X, but you need to take into account that Leopard isnt helping Mac sales. (i.e. why not just wait untill October and get the new OS pre installed) Once October comes, I doubt Mac Market share (based on net applications data) will be declining, it will increasing. No matter how much bad press Vista gets, and no matter how smart Apple is... Microsoft isnt stupid: Windows overall marketshare will most likely never dip below 70%. Some people claim corporate users skew this information, as Windows dominates with businesses. (Desktop, not server) I think that is inaccurate to say, are corporate computers not computers? And no matter what you say, Windows still has a higher home market share than Macs. Don't reply with that marketshare =\= install base stuff. You cant change the fact that there are more Windows based PC's than Macintosh computers. And its not because their not reliable, or because Windows users upgrade more. Its because Windows is more popular. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57890-vista-use-grows-as-mac-os-x-stays-flat/#findComment-413625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFI Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 There are several things that throw off the numbers. 1. Every computer sold after Jan 30 primarily runs on Windows Vista, thus, every consumer who purchases a Windows PC after that date, will be running Windows Vista. The only exception is the option that Dell provides at an additional cost of installing Windows XP. Since on average the number of PC's sold within quarters worldwide is in the hundreds of thousands, this has the ability to skew the numbers monumentally. 2. The market share is not even a fraction of being remotely close to being 1:1 between Microsoft vs Apple in order to take this statistic seriously. Apple with only a userbase of ~20-25 million, and Microsoft with a userbase exceeding 1 billion. to name the primary ones 1. Survey finds Windows losing ground with developers 2. 6 months later, a report card on Vista 3. Acer chief slams Microsoft: 'The entire industry is disappointed by Windows Vista' 4. Microsoft: Trouble ahead? 5. Is Windows XP Harming Vista Growth? 6. Microsoft Ignoring Customer Needs with Continued Silence on Future Windows And in other news: 1. Apple marketshare on top of the world 2. Apple rockin' up the US marketshare charts 3. Mac desktops are smarter "money", says CIO 4. Apple Still Growing Comptuer Market Share 5. Why Apple has doubled this past year--why it would double again 6. Mac Market Math 7. Mac sales outpacing industry 3:1 8. Apple Mac Sales Up 26.2% in Q2, Outpacing Industry's 7.2% 9. Read/Write web wonders how Apple can win the PC battle 10. The Mac's comeback Trust me, we can play with numbers all day long. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57890-vista-use-grows-as-mac-os-x-stays-flat/#findComment-413870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apowerr Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 There are several things that throw off the numbers. 1. Every computer sold after Jan 30 primarily runs on Windows Vista, thus, every consumer who purchases a Windows PC after that date, will be running Windows Vista. The only exception is the option that Dell provides at an additional cost of installing Windows XP. Since on average the number of PC's sold within quarters worldwide is in the hundreds of thousands, this has the ability to skew the numbers monumentally. How does it skew numbers if its umm.. accurate? As far as the links go, yeah MS really screwed up and yeah Apple is really giving consumers what they want. I think Vista is going to eat up XP market share, but overall Windows will be losing some to OS X. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57890-vista-use-grows-as-mac-os-x-stays-flat/#findComment-413882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFI Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 I think Vista is going to eat up XP market share, but overall Windows will be losing some to OS X. Bingo. That's what is important, not whether the next operating system will be eating the market share of its predecessor. 5 years down the road...we could care less of OS X Tiger, or Windows Vista....when for all you know the market share could belong to Linux's "Gixuntu" ( I don't see what's the point of bringing in PPC users...its like comparing XP users on the Windows side. The last generation of users will still decrease only slowly as the future progresses. They said it as a good thing for Vista, but a bad thing for Intel based Macs, as IF it's affecting Apple (which it is not). Like they stated, Windows overall is STAGNANT. While Macs on the other hand, HAVE been improving in market share, thus taking OS X with them. This was the most important, but last line in the article (excluding the Mac part). Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57890-vista-use-grows-as-mac-os-x-stays-flat/#findComment-413897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apowerr Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 XP was full of innovation. I wanted Windows XP. It really made my general computing experience better. Vista was going to be full of innovation: WinFS, the new startmenu/sidebar, Avalon and DX10 tied together. But then in 2004 the plug got pulled on "Longhorn" and Vista as we know it today was started. I like Vista better than XP, but in a lot of ways... its not much better. Apple on the other hand continues to deliver what customers need and want. I think the next OS MS makes will be a lot better and a huge improvement over Vista. (The way XP and 2000 were over 98) Vista has shown MS that just because its been around, doesnt mean it will be around. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57890-vista-use-grows-as-mac-os-x-stays-flat/#findComment-413953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenta Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 XP was full of innovation? You mean 2000 was. XP is 2000 with tons of bloat and an ugly skin. Infact XP to 2000 had the least amount of feature change in Windows history IIRC. XP to Vista is one of the larger jumps. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57890-vista-use-grows-as-mac-os-x-stays-flat/#findComment-414267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iDerf2006 Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 XP was full of innovation? You mean 2000 was. XP is 2000 with tons of bloat and an ugly skin. Infact XP to 2000 had the least amount of feature change in Windows history IIRC. XP to Vista is one of the larger jumps. That maybe so, but Windows 2000 wasn't exactly aimed at home users, whilst Windows XP was. Windows XP is an upgrade to Windows ME, and to those people Windows XP was a huge upgrade and full of innovation. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57890-vista-use-grows-as-mac-os-x-stays-flat/#findComment-414291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bxsci(macuser) Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 XP to Vista is one of the larger jumps.as it should be - considering it took them 5 years to come out with it Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57890-vista-use-grows-as-mac-os-x-stays-flat/#findComment-414384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MrRogers Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 An I'm sure because ONE source stated this, that makes it true? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57890-vista-use-grows-as-mac-os-x-stays-flat/#findComment-414622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proteo Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 "Chief financial officer Chris Liddell has told analysts that he expects XP to make up 22 percent of sales in Microsoft's new fiscal year, up from the previous estimate of 15 percent. Vista would make up the remaining 78 percent of Windows sales. Windows XP sales will, in other words, be nearly 50 percent higher in the next 12 months than Microsoft had estimated earlier." Acer: PC Industry 'Disappointed' with Vista Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57890-vista-use-grows-as-mac-os-x-stays-flat/#findComment-414633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apowerr Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 XP was full of innovation? You mean 2000 was. XP is 2000 with tons of bloat and an ugly skin. Infact XP to 2000 had the least amount of feature change in Windows history IIRC. XP to Vista is one of the larger jumps. That maybe so, but Windows 2000 wasn't exactly aimed at home users, whilst Windows XP was. Windows XP is an upgrade to Windows ME, and to those people Windows XP was a huge upgrade and full of innovation. iDerf2006 is right. While Windows 2000 users (who were primarily corporate customers) may not have felt that XP had anything that great to offer, Windows ME (who were primarily screwed over customers that should have stuck with '98) users did. I wouldnt say 2000 to XP the Windows upgrade with least amount of feature change: I would say Windows '98 to Windows ME had the least amount. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/57890-vista-use-grows-as-mac-os-x-stays-flat/#findComment-414760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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