RedSox Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 Not sure how its done but even new pages are blazing fast. On a 1MB per second line....its blazing! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/56711-da-the-safari-beta-is-blazing/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahbau Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 I really didn't notice a speed difference at all. I love the new search though. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/56711-da-the-safari-beta-is-blazing/#findComment-405162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwhsh8r Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 RedSox, lol, were you using ie 6 before? or some other bloat/add browser like aohell's? thats the only way :s Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/56711-da-the-safari-beta-is-blazing/#findComment-405181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
borisbadenov Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 The headline should read, "Safari should go to blazes". I've used IE6 and IE7, Firefox, Opera and Safari. All I have to say is Firefox is my browser. Safari on Windows sucks. It is not stable, yes, I know it is still beta, and even IE7 is faster. But for what it's worth, I love, love, love the extras Firefox adds on. And it's fast as well. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/56711-da-the-safari-beta-is-blazing/#findComment-405239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takuro Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 I have a cable modem. I haven't noticed any speed changes. Maybe somebody with dial-up would. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/56711-da-the-safari-beta-is-blazing/#findComment-405383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_G Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 Me, I'm just waiting for someone to hack the Safari font renderer so it'll work system wide. I'm sick of the tuned-out-of-shape Cleartype-hinted Verdana and Tahoma crapping their best on an otherwise usable Windows OS. I know what 95% of people are saying, deeming the Safari font renderer even worse than Cleartype. ("Blur" is how they call it.) But the same people also hated Cleartype when it first came out, preferring Blockytype from Windows 95 and Me. BTW for those who aren't convinced, try this page on both Internet Explorer and Safari Windows. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/56711-da-the-safari-beta-is-blazing/#findComment-405419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
borisbadenov Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 Me, I'm just waiting for someone to hack the Safari font renderer so it'll work system wide. I'm sick of the tuned-out-of-shape Cleartype-hinted Verdana and Tahoma crapping their best on an otherwise usable Windows OS. I know what 95% of people are saying, deeming the Safari font renderer even worse than Cleartype. ("Blur" is how they call it.) But the same people also hated Cleartype when it first came out, preferring Blockytype from Windows 95 and Me. BTW for those who aren't convinced, try this page on both Internet Explorer and Safari Windows. I tried the page you posted and it looks good in IE7, fantastic in Firefox and like {censored} in Safari. After this test, I purged Safari from my Winblows box. Now I have Firefox on my three different Os'es, Winblows, Linux and OSX Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/56711-da-the-safari-beta-is-blazing/#findComment-405694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksideofthemoon Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 well i am VERY late...didnt realize this had come out....im going to try it out on my vista ultimate vs. my beloved firefox...... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/56711-da-the-safari-beta-is-blazing/#findComment-405955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apowerr Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 I tried the page you posted and it looks good in IE7, fantastic in Firefox and like {censored} in Safari. After this test, I purged Safari from my Winblows box. Now I have Firefox on my three different Os'es, Winblows, Linux and OSX I did the .jp test to, im keeping Safari because Im hoping they update it and give it a better text renderer. I also wish they would give it larger, aero styled minimize maximize and close buttons. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/56711-da-the-safari-beta-is-blazing/#findComment-406055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksideofthemoon Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 well safari seems to run slow on my comp *EDIT* Now it doesnt ^^ I prefer it to firefox actually.....it scares me :S Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/56711-da-the-safari-beta-is-blazing/#findComment-406124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_G Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 So Boris, you really think of all these screens... IE FIREFOX SAFARI Third one is like fsck to you, huh? (Maybe you're running Vista, that could explain it. I'm still on Xp. Vista has the updated Japanese fonts that is much ballyhooed by Microsoft.) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/56711-da-the-safari-beta-is-blazing/#findComment-406152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
borisbadenov Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 (Maybe you're running Vista, that could explain it. I'm still on Xp. Vista has the updated Japanese fonts that is much ballyhooed by Microsoft.) I am actually still running XP Pro. I do have Vista installed but I have not made the migration yet. Just seems that everything I need is loaded into Xp, not in Vista. (And I get so pissed off loading programs into Vista, that annoying pop-up....aaaaaaarg!!!) I do wish that you could have labeled the three images you showed so people might know what browser you used. I just find that IE7 and Firefox makes the characters crisper, cleaner so I can see the lines, read the characters; Safari just seems to make the lines bloated, blotchy, hard to decipher. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/56711-da-the-safari-beta-is-blazing/#findComment-406159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahbau Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 I just find that IE7 and Firefox makes the characters crisper, cleaner so I can see the lines, read the characters; Safari just seems to make the lines bloated, blotchy, hard to decipher. They might make it "crisper," but to me it hurts my eyes with all the jaggies in there. Safari makes the font smoother and easier on the eyes. The only time it's hard for me to read is sometimes it's hard to tell if something is a "pa" or "ba" because sometimes the little circle or two hash marks are blurred into a splotch. Here's what I'm talking about: And a larger version: Edit: STFangsong seems to be a bit better than Osaka. This is in OS X though. I'm not sure which fonts Windows uses. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/56711-da-the-safari-beta-is-blazing/#findComment-406190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_G Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 Bloggers have also commented on Safari's fatter fonts. Some hate it, some get used to it, and later swear by it. Anyway if the thickness irritates you that much, you have the option of thinning the font by going to the Appearance tab. With Cleartype however I can't thicken the fonts so I can read better. So yeah I'm one of those weirdos, the 5% user base. The trouble I have with Windows, like I've said so it a dozen times, is how the Cleartype team interprets the outlines of the fonts as they embellish them for the screen. To me, Verdana is the absolute worst font hinting job I've seen, and have hated it since they introduced Cleartype. The 2nd one I really can't stand is Tahoma, which unfortunately Microsoft made their system font. It's a good thing they came up with Segoe, which to me is a lot more palatable. But even then to my eyes, the new hinted fonts on Vista still doesn't come close to Apple's smoothed fonts, because what you get is ultimately someone's hand tune job, a job whose only criteria is for the text to look sharp. But what happens when you manually whip real life objects into pixel perfection? Of course, you introduce artifacts into your work. And my biggest beef yet is that it took Microsoft until Vista to introduce font smoothing into Asian fonts. And all that time the Japs weren't complaining, were they? So why do we even need Cleartype in the first place? Let's go back to blocky fonts like in my top 2 screens, because it didn't seem to bother anyone to begin with. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/56711-da-the-safari-beta-is-blazing/#findComment-406191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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