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I'm watching this thing about Christians trying to escape their porn addictions that are ruining their marriages and causing them to cheat... give it a rest. Take responsibility for your life instead of blaming everyone/everything else for your failures. If you dont want to look at porn, that's fine. But stop blaming all of your problems on it.

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If that's what I said, I didnt mean that. I meant people blame porn addiction for what happens in their lives. Though obviously having an addiction to porn isnt anyone else's fault, either.

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Thats what happens everywhere. It is really really common.

 

For example

1) People blame drugs for ruining their lives etc etc

2) People blame tobacco/cigarettes for cancer

3) People blame alcohol for ruining their lives etc etc

 

I am sure there are many more examples like this, but the fact is that everybody does it to hide their own weaknesses. The new scapegoat is porn.

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It's gotten ridiculous how people will blame anything and anyone EXCEPT themselves for problems in their life.

 

Some of these people need to grow a backbone and take responsibility.

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Hmmm, let me remember:

 

He who watches people fornicating

and sinning in their stead

shall be damned to the seventh generation.

His children and children's children

shall grow prurient pustules on their faces

and their limbs shall fall to the ground

and their eyes will rot in their sockets.

Thus speaketh the Host of Hosts

Lord or Lords

Your forgiving and loving God.

-Gospel of Dufus , 13:17-25

 

:thumbsup_anim::)

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Of course it must be. McDonalds forces people to eat their food and doesnt properly indicate that a Double Quarter Pounder with Cheese and a Super-Sized Fries has more than 50 calories.

 

I'm fat because of McDonalds.

I'm poor because I'm white/black/asian/republican/democrat/{censored}/straight/etc

My relationship was destroyed by porn.

Drugs made me lose my job.

Satan made me do it!

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Porn aside as the issue, but addressing the question in it's nature. If one has to blame an external entity for their problems, would not one look at themselves as the problem for NOT preventing the other?

 

Local, state, and federal government. If one blames the government for their problems, should not one aim the barrel of truth to themselves? If the government is doing something wrong, then isn't our job to correct it? If someone ELSE is doing something wrong, then it is your job to either

 

A. Turn your head and IGNORE them.

OR

B. Stop them from doing it.

AND

C. Referred to as the point of origin, or the start of the problem/issue. Or a 0 (zero) entity.

 

If in fact A does not work, and is not effective, which leaves you ONLY with option B. This depends on the issue. If someone FORCES you into not ignoring the issue, then B is the only option.

 

IF the government passes a law that says you MUST worship bail, or die. Then you ignore the issue, if they come to your home, you by force shoot, and kill the invading entities, and kick start a revolution, and state that the government is doing wrong, and it is OUR fault for allowing it, so we must stop them from doing it. The result being that we regain control over the blame, and that we have no one to blame but ourselves.

 

In some circumstances a problem can form because of option A. Thus allowing the ONLY option to result to is B again. So in this circumstance because we ignored the problem, then it has overtaken and forced us into a prevention stage.

 

This is why we have balance of power, and not JUST an executive authority.

 

However in THIS PARTICULAR issue, you are to imply the "Out of Sight out of mind" ideology which would imply that ignoring the issue would have no results. In this particular case you may be correct, that the issue will go along its marry way in a parallel existence to your own, and not interfere with your parallel existence to it. In quantum physics this is referred to as a parallel universe, or an existence which resides separate from you, in an unknown state, one not meddling with the other, and both can go along their merry way, so to say.

 

I used to teach a few collage classes, I know I get a bit complex. Sorry. :hysterical:

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Thats what happens everywhere. It is really really common.

 

For example

1) People blame drugs for ruining their lives etc etc

2) People blame tobacco/cigarettes for cancer

3) People blame alcohol for ruining their lives etc etc

 

I am sure there are many more examples like this, but the fact is that everybody does it to hide their own weaknesses. The new scapegoat is porn.

None of those are ruining my life, only OSX86 :hysterical:, it's my only addiction...

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I'm watching this thing about Christians trying to escape their porn addictions that are ruining their marriages and causing them to cheat... give it a rest. Take responsibility for your life instead of blaming everyone/everything else for your failures. If you dont want to look at porn, that's fine. But stop blaming all of your problems on it.

 

Also, your answer is within your answer. It is not Christians, but EVERYBODY. If you are going to BLAME Cristians, then "look to thine own eyes first". As you said. Stop asserting blame.

 

Just another reason to assert your hate, and release your anger.

 

None of those are ruining my life, only OSX86 :hysterical:, it's my only addiction...

 

I 2nd.

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I'm not blaming Christians... the segment was about Christian outreach to sufferers of porn addiction. That in and of itself is fine, I guess. What's not fine is that everyone was using their addiction to porn as the reason why their lives suck. When they are the reason their life sucks, not porn. I like porn, and granted, I feel less need for physical intimacy with someone else because of it... but that's a positive in my view. Less drama, less trouble, easier access (especially with torrents). Porn is like a prostitute that's free, always available and has no diseases. It's the gift that keeps on giving. Now naturally, if someone has instant access to porn, they need less of their partner's affections... but that's a personal choice. Some people are addicted to sex, and their partner wishes they'd switch to porn. It all balances out. The point I'm trying to make is that your partner doesnt leave you because the porn has it's claws in you. Your partner leaves you because you chose porn over them. Key word "chose".

 

The same thing can be said for anything someone chooses to do that wrecks their life (in their view, anyways). I like to eat meat. Now obviously if I have a partner that's a vegetarian who is offended by the eating of meat, my carnivorous tendencies will strain the relationship... But it's my choice, not meat's fault. Sure, if meat/porn/cigarettes/crack/smack/dope/work didnt exist, it would be a lot easier to choose the alternative. But again, that's simply blaming your problems on someone/something else, other than your own choices.

 

I'd have as much problem with the notion if it were Muslim porn outreach, or secular porn outreach. The religion isnt my issue, it's the blame game. (AA/NA does it too). But it does equate nicely with the Judeo-Christian mentality of Satan tempting you to sin, as if Satan really needed to do any tempting.

 

As to my hate for and anger towards Christians... it's more of a contempt than a hate or an anger. Just to set the record straight. I feel contempt for anyone who wants everyone to practice a religion that even they dont.

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As to my hate for and anger towards Christians... it's more of a contempt than a hate or an anger. Just to set the record straight. I feel contempt for anyone who wants everyone to practice a religion that even they dont.

 

You are choosing option B, because you are skipping step A. Bush, and the Neo-Cons give Christians a bad name. It would be better to refer to those people as Neo-Cons, or "Nazis", than using the term Christian. Many Christians' view of society is the same as yours, but differ ONLY in the fact that they believe in the risen Jesus.

 

I as well as many others find the repeated Christian bashing offensive on this board, If you want to bash someone, don't bash them because of their personal beliefs. It has become a doublethink standard on this board, and its getting annoying.

 

Why not bash Russians, Mexians, Blacks, Muslims, Indians, Blue People, the Chinese, or someone else? Or is it that some of you support these groups, and dislike Christians?

 

Or is there some kind of "Political Correctness" on this board?

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This is an interesting topic, actually. I dont have a problem with people who think Jesus is great. I dont have a problem with people who want to obey Jesus' teachings. I dont have a problem with people believing Jesus is god or not god. I dont have a problem with Jesus or God. I dont believe in either, but that's my business.

 

What I do have a problem with is people who call themselves Christians (every single one in my experience), yet behave nothing like Jesus told his followers to behave. In fact, almost without exception, Christians dont even know what Jesus wanted people to do. That's the first thing.

 

What I also have a problem with is someone determining that their belief structure is somehow fact and the law of the land. Belief is not fact. I have never once paraded my personal belief that God does not exist as if it were a fact. It's not. Neither is it a fact that God does exist. Yet almost without exception, Christians behave as if Jesus is factually God, and God is factually existent. This again differs with the entire notion of Jesus and the Abrahamic God. You arent supposed to treat it like fact. If you do, you're lying to yourself and others. You are supposed to believe in the mystery. What's wrong with just believing? Nothing.

 

As for political correctness, I dont believe in it. Black people should advance their own selves instead of constantly complaining everyone is holding them back. Mexicans should figure out a way to fix their country without ruining mine. And white people (just to add the full rainbow) shouldnt be so arrogant about their position in the world.

 

Anyways, I'm not pushing my own belief structure, or trying to convince people not to be jesusy. I'm all for jesusy people. But they are, almost exclusively, non-Christian. Though I should add a proviso. There could very well be hundreds of Christians that I know of that follow the jesusy way. But one of the points of the sermon on the mount was that prayer and faith shouldnt constantly be declaimed. So I probably wouldnt even know it if a Christian who practices his or her faith was in front of my face (aside from the lack of credit cards, but that could mean anything).

 

If you're looking for a jesusy person, visit a buddhist monk (or possibly a Christian monk, I've never met one, so I dunno). Or a dyed in the wool hippie.

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I'm watching this thing about Christians trying to escape their porn addictions that are ruining their marriages and causing them to cheat... give it a rest. Take responsibility for your life instead of blaming everyone/everything else for your failures. If you dont want to look at porn, that's fine. But stop blaming all of your problems on it.

 

 

 

I agree 100%

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Not all of your problems are cause by you.

I mean, if your born without legs, that's not your fault.

But, what you do to deal with your problems, is what's important. If you blame others for your problems, they will not be resolved. Accept your problems, deal with it. I mean, it's YOUR problem, if you need help, find someone to lean on and help you out.

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If you get struck by lightning, it's hardly your fault either, that is true.

 

But anything that is within your control is your responsibility.

 

Since all human action is a result of choice, everything done by you, for either good or ill is by choice, and is therefore no one else's fault but your own.

 

Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

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Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

Very True. Its so annoying when people talk about some normal person who shot someone and people say "Well It's not their Fault." If you if you did something, its YOUR fault. Place the blame on someone else and it will always return to haunt you.

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