Do you agree with piracy?

[(MoC)]

Think about this facet of the equation: Microsoft would rather have people pirate Windows and install it on their computers, than have people using Linux or buying Apple computers.

 

Even piracy is in the owner's favor.

 

-3nigma

 

I 5th that. I will bet a large quantity of $$$ that every single user existing on the site has a pirated file

[Adrian Fogge]

I agree with Piracy ONLY when it comes to software applications that are intentionally limited to sell higher end versions of the exact same application.

 

I believe that making lesser versions of the same application by stripping out functionality, adding advertising and inhibiting use is inherently wrong. Making an application where the sole purpose is to annoy the {censored} out of the end user and force them to buy the higher version later on is EVIL; it serves no practical application other than to increase the profit for the exact same application.

 

Take Microsoft's OSes for example. When they released XP Home, they did not LOWER the price to make it more attractive to home users. They kept the SAME price and raised the price on the "Professional" version.

 

Same thing with Vista Home Basic, Home Premium, Business and Ultimate. Prices raised across the board for versions with comparable features.

 

Adobe is guilty of the same thing with Photoshop Extended to justify a $400 increase in price. Sure there are more things that were added, but there was no reason why they shouldn't have been included with the standard edition.

 

Greed justifies these things.

And while it makes perfect sense that the Developers need to be paid, creating new teirs of the same versions of the same applications simply to increase revenue is just greedy and just as is done with Music Artists, they don't get the additional revenue.

 

I whole heartedly believe that people should purchase their music and their applications; however I personally have gone for buying the educational versions of my enabling applications like Windows, Acrobat and other things that I do not make money directly through the use of.

 

Example, if it is an App and I will not be making money through using it, I generally woln't bother paying for it.

If it is something that I could gain entertainment from, then I will pay for it every time because it brings me happiness.

 

~Adrian

[gwprod12]

I refuse to buy a game unless I've already played it. Every time I download something like Star Trek Legacy, I think about how happy I am I didnt pay for it. Now, if you could return a game that was unsatisfactory, I might be more inclined to buy first.

[3nigma]

I refuse to buy a game unless I've already played it. Every time I download something like Star Trek Legacy, I think about how happy I am I didnt pay for it. Now, if you could return a game that was unsatisfactory, I might be more inclined to buy first.

I agree wholeheartedly. If a person could be sure of a purchase, or could take it back if risk were involved, then it's no big deal to shell out some cash for it.

[OryHara]

Piracy is fine, somebody needs to take a stab at the big, greedy, companies.

 

Why do I have this view?

 

For example, copyright law is so {censored}ed up that when a pharmaceutical company discovers a new gene, they own all the rights to it in the future (manipulate it, etc.). IT IS A {censored}.ING GENE INSIDE YOUR BODY! What pharmaceutical company has a right to own your genes? Thats how you KNOW copyright law is messed up.

 

Record companies for a second example: They sell a CD for 15 bucks, the artist may get a little less than a buck, IF THEY'RE LUCKY. I'd rather buy the CD from the artist directly, take the fat white guy out of the equation.

 

Also, why buy music that has rootkits and DRM protection when I could download the pirated version with more features and higher quality at zero cost.

 

I mean, come on, its their own faults, if they wanted us to actually buy their {censored} they should get out of the middle ages, come up with a new business model, and compete, offer something pirates cant! But NO, they use the government as their personal body guard, and the government plays right along because the pharmaceutical company, record company, etc are crapping more money than you might think.

 

When they say they are losing money, thats a load of {censored}, they are losing "POTENTIAL PROFIT". Profit that hasnt been proven yet, that they dont have yet, buying something on a credit card thinking your gambling is going to pay off at the casino tomorrow when you bet on red 32 (same thing on a larger scale).

 

Copyright law is messed up wickedly, its time we did something about it.

This view also stems from how I see the world:

 

Money is great, BUT life is not ALL ABOUT MONEY. When you form a business, you SHOULDN'T say to yourself "I am starting this business to make a bunch of rich stockholders happy and to make a quick buck any way possible!" you should be investing in your company's long term success, this often involves NOT pleasing the stockholders, it also includes being loyal to your employees, if you are loyal to them, and pick the right people to work under you, and you make a quality product, and you have pride in it, and are passionate about it, the money will follow, no worries there.

 

All I'm saying in a few short words is that "money is great, but when your life becomes purely devoted by money (or your company is ONLY about the money), thats when life starts to get {censored}ed up"

 

:star_smile: :star_smile:

 

You pretty much summed my my statement without me having to reply. But I will reply to demonstrate that I agree with your view on this issue. I support massive rampant piracy. I say the more pirates we have, the less chance that the {censored} 500 can do anything about it. They loose control, we gain control, and they are royally {censored}ed. As for the *AA... CLUSTER {censored} 'EM. I get their letters all the time, and feed them to m cat fluffy. He is part bobcat, and just as mean, and loves the smell of dead hog wrapped in RIAA legal letter.

[KaiNeR]

i agree with it

[consolation]

Do you agree with piracy?

I don't.

 

Ye arhh.. Maties,

 

Piracy is the good life, the salty spray of sea water, a pirate wench by your side, the feel of the cat on some scurvy sea-dogs back... yo ho ho and a bottle of rum.

Arhh... The fear in their eyes when you hoist the Jolly Roger and fire the first broad side. What Joy when your cutlass severs their scabby tendons on your way to the booty...

Aye Maties, it's a pirate's life for me

[gwprod12]

So... that's a yes?

[consolation]

It means it's fun but I wouldn't delude myself into thinking I'm doing the world a favour by it, greed and need me maties.... greed and need. We are thieving pirate scum, so what?

[OryHara]

I have been pirating software for OVER 12 years. I would like to see them stop me. And yes, with what I am making now I could put up a dragged on fight over it. I am 25, and have been pirating software since I had my first computer at age 13. I get RIAA letters a lot, and a few BSA, and MPAA, all of which I give them some stupid reply that doesn't make any sense to me or them, just to make it sound like they are dealing with someone who is insane. I feed the letters to m¥ cat, who enjoys ripping shreds of paper all over my desk in my study.

 

Software piracy was the norm when I was a teenager, and it still is today. Paying for software is almost unthinkable unless nessesary. I run into few software that is even worth $20 of my money. OS X is too high for it's price, and Windows is rediculus, I use Linux most of the time. But have 3 active boxen running OS X, and even more running Linux.

 

Licensing terms on software is unconstitutional, and illegal at most. I ignore all of them because most of them would never hold up in court here anyways unless the judge was high on crack, and even then he would probably laugh at the terms. The local judge hates large companies, thanks to yours truely, so they would have a tough time with him. Last year he laughed at Wal-Mart's claims about a dog that went rampant in their store that was owned by a local blind man. The man's dog apparently had got a whiff of something and started to tear things off the shelves. The judge laughed when Wal-Mart wanted to hold the blind man responsible, and threw the case out.

[killbot1000]

I'm for anything that gives power to the common people (lower, middle class).

[OryHara]

I'm for anything that gives power to the common people (lower, middle class).

 

And thats what P2P is all about.

[gwprod12]

Besides, instead of bitching about evil P2Pers, they should alter their policies to make money off of P2P. I dont know how they would, but it's not my job to make them money.

[LifeDroidGenesis7007]

As totally awesome as real life pirates are (operating mostly in the South Pacific these days), they are still completely scary. I would never want to be mugged by these guys, now if I could become one of them somehow...

[gwprod12]

LOL. I was thinking about something earlier... about people justifying their piracy... I, for one, dont need to justify it, since I dont think it's wrong. I dont care how other people determine something is wrong (their conscience, the bible, whatever), that's their concern. As Jack Sparrow once said "There are things a man can do, and there are things a man can't do". Well, I cant make everyone worship me as a God, and I cant be sure to get away with murdering someone I dont care for, but I can get away with Internet Piracy. Until that changes, f everyone else.