[pre-release] macOS Ventura

[PoMpIs]

24 minutes ago, Slice said:

I have Z170 with Skylake CPU but I have external card RX570 because internal HD530 is not working good even if using connectorless configuration.

 

Well I'm off to a bad start 😆 ... 

 

I'm going to try it and see what happens, because I hadn't thought of putting a GPU on that computer

 

Thank you very much  

Edited August 16, 2022 by PoMpIs

[pbryanw]

@miliuco - Hi, I see you mentioned you could get better temps, and Geekbench scores, from your AMD 6000 series GPU using a SoftPowerPlayTable from Windows, instead of the framebuffer approach.

 

So, I did a Google search, and found your detailed guide on how to do this 👍 I'm including the link here, because it looks very interesting, and I plan to give it a go later today with my RX 6800:
https://github.com/perez987/RX6600XT-on-macOS-Monterey-and-PowerPlayTable

[maly70]

47 minutes ago, pbryanw said:

@miliuco - Hi, I see you mentioned you could get better temps, and Geekbench scores, from your AMD 6000 series GPU using a SoftPowerPlayTable from Windows, instead of the framebuffer approach.

 

So, I did a Google search, and found your detailed guide on how to do this 👍 I'm including the link here, because it looks very interesting, and I plan to give it a go later today with my RX 6800:
https://github.com/perez987/RX6600XT-on-macOS-Monterey-and-PowerPlayTable

Thanks mate, that was useful information, I am buying AMD 6600 👍

[PoMpIs]

A few days later..... 

 

I've managed to get Ventura running unraid without having to buy a pcie usb controller... This board has few PCIe

 

The RX6800XT has a USB-C port... I have added it to XHCIunsupported and it works now 😀

 

But since it only has a usb-c port, I need a hub to be able to put the keyboard too, otherwise I can only connect the mouse and I have to use the on-screen keyboard, but it has served me perfectly to be able to start the machine and configure it...

 

The GPU works perfectly with audio via HDMI and Displayport, I have DRM working... it's very curious to have the virtualized system...

 

While doing all this, I had another windows machine running which my son was using at the same time along with a GTX1660Ti

 

I had a great time trying this... and it even seemed strange to me that it hardly needs any kext, I only have XHCIunsupported, Lilu and WEG... plus an SSDT for the GPU audio...

 

Anyway, thank you very much @Pavo for your great github tutorial, and to all of you who make this possible...

 

 

 I have assigned to the machine 3 cores and 3 threads and 12.5Gb of ram, it works perfectly

 



 

It gets practically the same score in cinebench as another computer I have with a Ryzen 1600AF@4Ghz all core with native installed ventura ( I have the i5 12400F at 5,120Mhz )

 

[Pavo]

1 hour ago, PoMpIs said:

A few days later..... 

 

I've managed to get Ventura running unraid without having to buy a pcie usb controller... This board has few PCIe

 

The RX6800XT has a USB-C port... I have added it to XHCIunsupported and it works now 😀

 

But since it only has a usb-c port, I need a hub to be able to put the keyboard too, otherwise I can only connect the mouse and I have to use the on-screen keyboard, but it has served me perfectly to be able to start the machine and configure it...

 

The GPU works perfectly with audio via HDMI and Displayport, I have DRM working... it's very curious to have the virtualized system...

 

While doing all this, I had another windows machine running which my son was using at the same time along with a GTX1660Ti

 

I had a great time trying this... and it even seemed strange to me that it hardly needs any kext, I only have XHCIunsupported, Lilu and WEG... plus an SSDT for the GPU audio...

 

Anyway, thank you very much @Pavo for your great github tutorial, and to all of you who make this possible...

 

 

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 I have assigned to the machine 3 cores and 3 threads and 12.5Gb of ram, it works perfectly

 



 

It gets practically the same score in cinebench as another computer I have with a Ryzen 1600AF@4Ghz all core with native installed ventura ( I have the i5 12400F at 5,120Mhz )

 
 

 

No problem, but you shouldn’t need WEG with any RX 6xxx series GPUs and have DRM working.

[PoMpIs]

1 hour ago, Pavo said:

No problem, but you shouldn’t need WEG with any RX 6xxx series GPUs and have DRM working.

 

I need it, otherwise I have a black screen when starting 🤷‍♂️ 

 

I have already tried it and without WEG it does not work for me

 

(((Could it be because of the iMacPro SMBios??? if I pass it to MacPro7,1 I don't need it anymore??)))

 

What I have achieved a while ago is to pass USB devices to the VM... I no longer need to use the type c port of the GPU.... and I even have bluetooth and the trackpad working... 

 

I have been looking at the XML in detail... and I have noticed that QEMU assigns 15 usb ports, I have left it in 7 and I can now manually pass what I want to the guest... I have the keyboard, the mouse and the bluetooth plus the usb audio of the board and the connected tarckpad... (I suppose it loads the USBs because it is an intel board, and it will have compatible Device-id)

 

 

 

 

 

 

The truth is that I did not expect that this could be done with Unraid, Windows yes, and I have done it more times, but MacOS works so well is incredible

 

PS:  GPU is hot-pluggable on USB-C, charges iPhone or iPad blazing fast 😆

 

 

Edited August 18, 2022 by PoMpIs

[Pavo]

3 hours ago, PoMpIs said:

 

I need it, otherwise I have a black screen when starting 🤷‍♂️ 

 

I have already tried it and without WEG it does not work for me

 

(((Could it be because of the iMacPro SMBios??? if I pass it to MacPro7,1 I don't need it anymore??)))

 

What I have achieved a while ago is to pass USB devices to the VM... I no longer need to use the type c port of the GPU.... and I even have bluetooth and the trackpad working... 

 

I have been looking at the XML in detail... and I have noticed that QEMU assigns 15 usb ports, I have left it in 7 and I can now manually pass what I want to the guest... I have the keyboard, the mouse and the bluetooth plus the usb audio of the board and the connected tarckpad... (I suppose it loads the USBs because it is an intel board, and it will have compatible Device-id)

 

 

 

 

 

 

The truth is that I did not expect that this could be done with Unraid, Windows yes, and I have done it more times, but MacOS works so well is incredible

 

PS:  GPU is hot-pluggable on USB-C, charges iPhone or iPad blazing fast 😆

 

 

That is correct, by changing the Qemu port amount to 7, it meets MacOS’s USB port limit for that controller. You can add multiple controllers as well but each controller needs to have 7 or less ports assigned to it for macOS to properly be able to use those ports.

 

As for the black screen without using WEG is most likely the iMacPro1,1 SMBIOS. I always use MacPro7,1 SMBIOS because there is no restrictions on Apple Graphics Device Policies being applied with that SMBIOS.

Edited August 18, 2022 by Pavo

[PoMpIs]

41 minutes ago, Pavo said:

That is correct, by changing the Qemu port amount to 7, it meets MacOS’s USB port limit for that controller. You can add multiple controllers as well but each controller needs to have 7 or less ports assigned to it for macOS to properly be able to use those ports.

 

As for the black screen without using WEG is most likely the iMacPro1,1 SMBIOS. I always use MacPro7,1 SMBIOS because there is no restrictions on Apple Graphics Device Policies being applied with that SMBIOS.

 

Well you are right, I have changed to MacPro7.1 and I no longer need WEG  👍

 

Another question if you don't mind...

 

To install the system until now I did it from VNC... but today I have done it directly with the GPU passed to the VM and when it restarts the first time, something strange happens to the GPU because until I restart unraid I don't come back to have video, not even with the windows VM... instead, once MacOS is installed I can restart and shut down the system as many times as I want, use windows, linux, the GPU always works fine....

 

You install the system from scratch with the GPU passed to the VM??

 

Thank you very much 🙇‍♂️

 

PS: 

 

The truth is that it is hilarious and the hardware is used more...

I'm installing ventura at the same time that I'm going to try spiderman remastered and my son is playing fortnite in another VM... the computer is going to explode 

 



 

Edited August 18, 2022 by PoMpIs

[deeveedee]

7 hours ago, Pavo said:

I always use MacPro7,1 SMBIOS because there is no restrictions on Apple Graphics Device Policies being applied with that SMBIOS.

 Is boot-arg 'igfxagdc=0' an option, too?

 

EDIT: I should have read your full post.  I now see that your goal is to have no AGDP restrictions without using WEG, but igfxagdc is a WEG boot-arg.

Edited August 19, 2022 by deeveedee

[Pavo]

4 hours ago, PoMpIs said:

 

Well you are right, I have changed to MacPro7.1 and I no longer need WEG  👍

 

Another question if you don't mind...

 

To install the system until now I did it from VNC... but today I have done it directly with the GPU passed to the VM and when it restarts the first time, something strange happens to the GPU because until I restart unraid I don't come back to have video, not even with the windows VM... instead, once MacOS is installed I can restart and shut down the system as many times as I want, use windows, linux, the GPU always works fine....

 

You install the system from scratch with the GPU passed to the VM??

 

Thank you very much 🙇‍♂️

 

PS: 

 

 

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The truth is that it is hilarious and the hardware is used more...

I'm installing ventura at the same time that I'm going to try spiderman remastered and my son is playing fortnite in another VM... the computer is going to explode 

 



 
 

 

 

Sometimes Qemu does not completely reset the GPU. It’s best to create 2 VMs one with GPU pass through and the second one with VNC but with all other settings the same. Use the VNC vm for installs and updates. Wait until the install or update process is complete and then turn the VNC vm off and turn the GPU vm on.

[STLVNUB]

My Ventura using Clover freezes then resets, anyone suggest what MIGHT be happening, Thanks

 

EDIT: At The DeskTop

Edited August 19, 2022 by STLVNUB

[Slice]

5 minutes ago, STLVNUB said:

My Ventura using Clover freezes then resets, anyone suggest what MIGHT be happening, Thanks

I encounter the same issue after attempt to boot by Opencore.

The solution is ClearCMOS.

[STLVNUB]

Didn't Work

[STLVNUB]

Thanks, but I really can't see this fixing it, Clover hasn't got the Kernel/Quirks/DisableRtcChecksum ☹️

[FirstCustomac]

48 minutes ago, STLVNUB said:

Thanks, but I really can't see this fixing it, Clover hasn't got the Kernel/Quirks/DisableRtcChecksum ☹️

Isn't DisableRtcChecksum equivalent to Clover -> AppleRTC?

[fernando.c.neves]

19 hours ago, STLVNUB said:

My Ventura using Clover freezes then resets, anyone suggest what MIGHT be happening, Thanks

 

EDIT: At The DeskTop

I had a similar machine with OpenCore 0.8.4, working everything. I use USBToolBox.kext and a mapping using this tool for Windows 10 & 11. Generating an UTBMap.kext, working USB 3.2 Controller Gen 2x1. My AMD Radeon RX 570 is blazing fast with an Overclock in Bios to 1370Mhz and 2150Mhz in Memory. Why U just don't forget using Clover?

EFI - B560M-H - OpenCore 0.8.4 - Ventura 13 Beta 5.zip

[STLVNUB]

7 hours ago, fernando.c.neves said:

I had a similar machine with OpenCore 0.8.4, working everything. I use USBToolBox.kext and a mapping using this tool for Windows 10 & 11. Generating an UTBMap.kext, working USB 3.2 Controller Gen 2x1. My AMD Radeon RX 570 is blazing fast with an Overclock in Bios to 1370Mhz and 2150Mhz in Memory. Why U just don't forget using Clover?

EFI - B560M-H - OpenCore 0.8.4 - Ventura 13 Beta 5.zip 8.38 MB · 6 downloads

Doesn't work here, no boot,but thanks anyway

[PoMpIs]

How is it possible that my 6800XT on the intel with SMBios MacPro7,1 has DRM without WEG and "agdpmod=pikera unfairgva=1" and if I put that GPU on a Ryzentosh with the same SMBios of MacPro7,1 it has DRM without WEG and " agdpmod=pikera unfairgva=1" ?¿?¿ 😑

 

Is it because it's AMD CPU?

 

VideoProc tells me that everything is fine even if I don't use WEG but the DRM doesn't work if I don't load that Kext

 

 

Cheers

[miliuco]

@PoMpIs

The 2 options are the same:

Intel - with SMBios MacPro7,1 has DRM without WEG and "agdpmod=pikera unfairgva=1"

AMD - with the same SMBios of MacPro7,1 it has DRM without WEG and " agdpmod=pikera unfairgva=1"

 

Anyway, as you already know, unfairgva is not needed with MacPro and agdpmod=pikera only works with WhateverGreen.

 

Edited August 20, 2022 by miliuco

[PoMpIs]

1 hour ago, miliuco said:

@PoMpIs

The 2 options are the same:

Intel - with SMBios MacPro7,1 has DRM without WEG and "agdpmod=pikera unfairgva=1"

AMD - with the same SMBios of MacPro7,1 it has DRM without WEG and " agdpmod=pikera unfairgva=1"

 

Anyway, as you already know, unfairgva is not needed with MacPro and agdpmod=pikera only works with WhateverGreen.

 

 

Well, my Ryzentosh with SMBios MacPro7,1 does not have DRM if I do not use WEG and agdpmod=pikera and unfairgva=1

You need all that, if I remove any of them the DRM is lost and the videos are green 😆  It's strange 

 

Mira aqui @miliuco :

 

 

 Te lo cuento aquí en nuestro idioma que me explico mejor...

 

 

El tema es que en el intel no necesito nada para tener DRM, ni WEG ni los boot args...

 

He puesto la 6800XT en el Ryzen, el cual como no uso al mismo tiempo que el intel, tiene el mismito SMBios que el intel de MacPro7,1, tiene todo igual, el mismo serial todo vamos....  pues en el AMD si no uso todo eso no hay DRM se me ven verdes los videos.... en la beta 5....  he probado a quitar unfairgva=1 y ya no hay DRM, si quito WEG lo mismo, si quito agdpmod y dejo el resto tampoco... y si lo dejo sin WEG ni los boot args todo funciona de maravilla pero sin DRM, se me ve verde la App TV, Amazon prime, y en safari

 

Edited August 20, 2022 by PoMpIs

[futureorkun]

On 6/11/2022 at 7:30 PM, eSaF said:

Teşekkürler adamım, bir şans vereceğim ve rapor edeceğim.

Please Attached is my hardware report in beta 5 version ventura. Can you help with EFI?

Report.htm

Edited August 20, 2022 by futureorkun

[miliuco]

@futureorkun

Please add a signature (Profile >> Account Settings).

This report is from Windows.

Do you have a Z390 Aorus Master + i9 9900K? Do you want to use the integrated graphics Intel UHD 630? There are plenty of sites with info for this hardware. I suppose that you have a macOS working already, right? Or are you trying to install Venture beta 5 from scratch? 

Give more info to us.

[PoMpIs]

What is the cheapest GPU that supports metal 3 in Ventura??  

 

It will be to put it on the ryzen, because I need the RX6800XT in the intel

 

Thanks

[PoMpIs]

@Hervé  

Thank you very much, I'll see if I can find a cheap one....

 

Otherwise I would see something like this:

 

https://www.pccomponentes.com/powercolor-fighter-amd-radeon-rx-6600-8gb-gddr6 

 

👍

[futureorkun]

My attempts with EFI on all sites have failed. I include this in my iGPU trials. I want to be able to use Ventura. What information do you want from me?

 

I want to install beta5 version with UHD630.

 

F12 bios version is not available for current motherboard...

 

http://www.gigabyte.com.tr/products/page/mb/z390_aorus_master#support-dl

 

All for Thanks

Edited August 20, 2022 by futureorkun